Equitial
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Time for a bunch of reads from the one nobody trusts: Equi, ya boi. Yooooooooo! I can see where people are coming from, but basically all I can say is sorry for being inactive and some poor reading comprehension a few times? Fortunately, I'm probably too controversial to be nightkilled, but I'd like my reads to stand for the record just in case. I'm putting a bunch of effort into these, so please read and enjoy.
(not all of the players yet, because this takes time and there are a lot of y'all)
Windskull
Dragonfree just pointed this out, but this does track from the beginning with their Cop claim. From the very beginning, their story has been consistent. However, if Wind is Mafia the second post could be an indication that the scum were from the beginning careful about the informed vanilla things. However, this is also explained by them making this mistake in the beginning too. This is evidenced, they were worried about being targeted by scum despite not claiming yet:
I think it's more likely that Wind made a slight oopsie and so was hyperaware of people doing the same thing. However, if flips scum then we can know that this strategy about informed was on the minds of the scum from the beginning.
Bruh, same. What I'm going through is definitely karmic retribution for last game lol
But the main crux of believing skull to be innocent, is what would the Mafia gain. At this point, I just don't see how Inke can be Town. Like, I would believe Wind is scum if Inke does flip that way, but I will always be monumentally confused while we go to lynch Wind. (I don't think there are any swappers in this game.)
So, if we're imagining a play where Wind is scum, I would say that Inke is definitely the SK. The Mafia Rolecop is still in-play, yadda yadda we've gone through this. However, the supporting interest in Wind is still scum relies on a web of interconnectedness based on Fuse and I being scum, which I just don't see idk. When we were scum, Wind and I's scumteam's strat was more to try to put distance between each other. We didn't like seeming too close to our scummates, so this does not seem like a scum!Wind play. Now ofc I can read my role PM and thus don't think my support of them means anything. But yeah, the proposed theory just doesn't seem very likely to me.
Fusion
Kent/Hana
(these two are a package deal for being Lovers)
For Abra, they having been putting out much of substance, which is in-character as they're a newbie and are into the RPing aspect. I mainly town-read them for being attached to Wes. However, they voted for Anti, which is going to go on my Do Not Like List.
To me, Hana's Lover claim is very strong, considering their behavior pre-confession. Also, literally everyone else seems in agreement that their play is very Town and consistent with their previous behavior. Also, confirmed by Steven obvi.
Chibi
Ah... I see where they're coming from now.
The only issue is that Steven is confirmed innocent, and from how Steven described his ability, he had to have been a Role Cop.
Eh, guess I can't lose any more standing. I'm...beginning to be sus of Chibi *nervous laughter*.
Chibi has behavior suggesting their role from the beginning ^^^
And the reason why they were suddenly suggesting the possibility of a Mafia Doctor was because they investigated me. Already considering me sus, now they knew my role and continued on from there.
Now, I know Chibi started the bandwagon on Porygon, but it did take a while for anyone else to continue with their votes. I would normally say that that still makes it impossible for them to scum, but there are just so many little things that are prick just the slightest bit. They're sus of me, which fine. But Chibi loves their info-roles, so to me it's weird that they're going after our Cop at all:
Right now, the way I see it--unless Town has two Role-Cops--Chibi is scum.
(not all of the players yet, because this takes time and there are a lot of y'all)
Windskull
"From my understanding, informed wasn't one of the powers our... malevolent benefactor (that sounds cool doesn't it?) mentioned. It's not an outlandish claim but... You, uhhh..."
1. Even if she's not lover, I suspect tetra is innocent and has some sort of role. Something she said early on made me think she was surprised by the info vanilla players got.
Dragonfree just pointed this out, but this does track from the beginning with their Cop claim. From the very beginning, their story has been consistent. However, if Wind is Mafia the second post could be an indication that the scum were from the beginning careful about the informed vanilla things. However, this is also explained by them making this mistake in the beginning too. This is evidenced, they were worried about being targeted by scum despite not claiming yet:
I could have tried to keep the fact that I'm a cop hidden and just tunnel on you to try and live longer, but chances were I'd be dead the next night anyways, and I wouldn't have been able to clear Fusion.
I think it's more likely that Wind made a slight oopsie and so was hyperaware of people doing the same thing. However, if flips scum then we can know that this strategy about informed was on the minds of the scum from the beginning.
[[I guess this is my just deserts for not doing more to stop the cop Lynch in fall 2020 mafia lol]]
Bruh, same. What I'm going through is definitely karmic retribution for last game lol
ALso just. I know this is a newbie game, but do you really honestly think I would pull a gambit where, if I'm mafia, I would reveal all or almost all scumbuddies?
But the main crux of believing skull to be innocent, is what would the Mafia gain. At this point, I just don't see how Inke can be Town. Like, I would believe Wind is scum if Inke does flip that way, but I will always be monumentally confused while we go to lynch Wind. (I don't think there are any swappers in this game.)
So, if we're imagining a play where Wind is scum, I would say that Inke is definitely the SK. The Mafia Rolecop is still in-play, yadda yadda we've gone through this. However, the supporting interest in Wind is still scum relies on a web of interconnectedness based on Fuse and I being scum, which I just don't see idk. When we were scum, Wind and I's scumteam's strat was more to try to put distance between each other. We didn't like seeming too close to our scummates, so this does not seem like a scum!Wind play. Now ofc I can read my role PM and thus don't think my support of them means anything. But yeah, the proposed theory just doesn't seem very likely to me.
Fusion
Basically I think he's innocent because Windskull said so, but now that I'm actually reading his posts--yeah, I can see where people are coming from. But mostly this makes me thinks: omg guys, if you think both Wind and Fusion are guilty, WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU NOT VOTE FUSE FIRST. Tbh I don't see how Fuse briefly voting for himself means anything, but I got two incidental tidbits and one bigger one:
The story maybe seems to change a little bit; nothing damning but you could potentially see a Mafia making up an information tidbit during this.
(I found this interesting, because only Chibi's vote was on Porygon at the time and it wasn't be talked about that much.)
My big sticking point is, that Fusion's opinions appear to change drastically during the d1 EoD Sans Circus. First they started off being hesitant to vote anyone:
but then...he's specifically suspicious of the Lovers for reasons I can't quite follow. (Main convo that confused me is on page 40):
Now, I know I ended up ultimately voting a Lover (Clovis), but I didn't actually think that was his claim at the time. However, from what I'm reading, Fusion seems to take the opposite reasoning for me. Idk, it looks to me like he orig pegged Clovis as a Lover, then thought that Clovis was saying otherwise which removed his vote. (Please read page 40 and tell me what's going on?) It does very much seem though that he was hesitant to vote Blu.
Tbh Mike is demonstrating the kind of brain that mine...just can't understand lol. I'm not going to analyze him, but just state my opinion that the plays are too galaxy for Mafia to be comfortable attempting.
Reme shrugged. "I'm not entirely sure how this game works, but I can at least assure you I'm not lying. I don't have any "powers" to prove myself, so all you have is my word. Unless other people have powers that could confirm my lack of them, in which case, I am fully willing to let anyone do as such."
"Yes, actually. I was told there was an odd number of town. At first I thought that odd, but with so many of us starting to claim vanilla or cops, that might actually be of use."
[[I was thinking that it'd be better to hold onto that bit of knowledge until more people roleclaimed. Then, if we had an "even" number of town claims, we'd know that for a fact that someone is lying and would potentially have something to go off of. I only spilled it when prompted because a fair bit of people already claimed, and I felt that holding it much longer than that wouldn't really matter.]]
The story maybe seems to change a little bit; nothing damning but you could potentially see a Mafia making up an information tidbit during this.
That being said, I can see that Blu has started to get votes on 'em and I'd at least like to try and figure that one out before considering voting them as well... which might take me a minute.
(I found this interesting, because only Chibi's vote was on Porygon at the time and it wasn't be talked about that much.)
My big sticking point is, that Fusion's opinions appear to change drastically during the d1 EoD Sans Circus. First they started off being hesitant to vote anyone:
The one thing I do wanna put out is that I'd push for not voting until we have someone we know we should vote out, at least more than just a feeling that we should, since this is just the first day and all we know for certain is that there is a Serial Killer,assuming I didn't look over more things, in which case, someone toss me.I know that a SK and Mafia being around means we'd be losing two townies when the night comes, but if we mislynch then we're down three, and if there really are a lovers and one of them is Kent or Abra, then that's another person down the drain. I feel like the safest option is just to no vote, and I've been in games were just suggesting that brings sus so if I'm sus now, so be it.]]
but then...he's specifically suspicious of the Lovers for reasons I can't quite follow. (Main convo that confused me is on page 40):
[[...You know, that's a really good point. If any of the lovers outed themselves... that's like, the worst play for them, isn't it? It's not like they could sit around and do nothing, assuming Flyg0n and Abra actually arein a scandalous affairlovers, then it makes sense that Fly said something since Kent being voted off would be bad... but even if everyone didn't vote Kent, then the Mafia or SK could just... Pick 'em off.
Now, I know I ended up ultimately voting a Lover (Clovis), but I didn't actually think that was his claim at the time. However, from what I'm reading, Fusion seems to take the opposite reasoning for me. Idk, it looks to me like he orig pegged Clovis as a Lover, then thought that Clovis was saying otherwise which removed his vote. (Please read page 40 and tell me what's going on?) It does very much seem though that he was hesitant to vote Blu.
Tbh Mike is demonstrating the kind of brain that mine...just can't understand lol. I'm not going to analyze him, but just state my opinion that the plays are too galaxy for Mafia to be comfortable attempting.
Kent/Hana
(these two are a package deal for being Lovers)
For Abra, they having been putting out much of substance, which is in-character as they're a newbie and are into the RPing aspect. I mainly town-read them for being attached to Wes. However, they voted for Anti, which is going to go on my Do Not Like List.
To me, Hana's Lover claim is very strong, considering their behavior pre-confession. Also, literally everyone else seems in agreement that their play is very Town and consistent with their previous behavior. Also, confirmed by Steven obvi.
Chibi
Ah... I see where they're coming from now.
The only issue is that Steven is confirmed innocent, and from how Steven described his ability, he had to have been a Role Cop.
Eh, guess I can't lose any more standing. I'm...beginning to be sus of Chibi *nervous laughter*.
She paced restlessly, gathering her thoughts. "And... umm... I don't trust Mike! At all!! I think he just wants the good rolecop to be stupid and show themselves!" She barked out a small ember and bared her teeth at the human.
"But... I think Hazel is right. Lying about Kent would be really stupid, even if Mike is bad!"
Chibi has behavior suggesting their role from the beginning ^^^
And the reason why they were suddenly suggesting the possibility of a Mafia Doctor was because they investigated me. Already considering me sus, now they knew my role and continued on from there.
Now, I know Chibi started the bandwagon on Porygon, but it did take a while for anyone else to continue with their votes. I would normally say that that still makes it impossible for them to scum, but there are just so many little things that are prick just the slightest bit. They're sus of me, which fine. But Chibi loves their info-roles, so to me it's weird that they're going after our Cop at all:
"I think the Anti-guy is pretty suspicious too! And I thought that was weird too, so I checked--he was actually replying to Hana:
Right now, the way I see it--unless Town has two Role-Cops--Chibi is scum.