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[TOWN WIN] Darkwhite's Role Overdrive Mafia

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
[[No this explains it! I got blocked night 2.

I apologze for not saying anything at the time but somebody used their blocking powers on me that night.

]]
[[And yes I was hasted, so I reasonably believe yellow/Abra is town tbh
neutral frown_front.png"Not to add another problem to the pile, but now that I know who the Kadabra targeted N2, (or was that the Quagsire?) I want to point out the way the Strings happened D2 and D3. D2 we had no Strings. D3 we had two Strings in one day, unlike D1 when we only had one String. This matches up with someone who was affected by the Kadabra's powers on N2."

heh_front.png"So," Sidney said, looking at the Linoone. "Got anything you wanna say about that?"
 

Chibi Pika

Stay positive
Staff
Location
somewhere in spacetime
Pronouns
they/them
Partners
  1. pikachu-chibi
  2. lugia
  3. palkia
  4. lucario-shiny
  5. incineroar-starr
Ajia tilted her head. "I... don't think that lines up. Puck blocked Cosmo on Night 2, right? That would have been after Day 2 was already over."
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
Ajia tilted her head. "I... don't think that lines up. Puck blocked Cosmo on Night 2, right? That would have been after Day 2 was already over."
[[HECK, sorry I can't count again]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
[[why do we have a game that started on a day phase whyyyyy]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
bruh_front.png"Fuckin' ay, Boss. You know I can't do numbers."
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
what_front.png"Whoa whoa, I had a feeling you were with Cresselia but like, why reveal this now? Especially since you already used your one shot ability."
 

Persephone

Infinite Screms
Pronouns
her/hers
Partners
  1. mawile
  2. vulpix-alola
[[Claiming doctor is... perhaps unwise, yeah. Especially if you admit you are not protected yourself. Are you looking for advice in better using your power? That's how I understand it. But having Cresselia to balance Darkrai makes a lot of sense. Cresselia as a doctor also makes sense. Unless this is some ploy to get town doctor to counterclaim then it seems like a genuinely naive mistake.

As for Chibi's readlist, I don't have a very good role for putting things together and I was busy on Day 2. With how quickly things have been moving I'll admit I've fallen behind. I'll try to be more helpful going forward.]]
 

Dragonfree

Moderator
Staff
Location
Iceland
Pronouns
she/her/hers
Partners
  1. butterfree
  2. mightyena
  3. charizard
  4. scyther-mia
  5. vulpix
  6. slugma
  7. chinchou
"Hold on," Dave said with a frustrated sigh. "You said you already used your one-shot protection ability. Are you saying you used that on Shimmer? Last night?"
 

Dragonfree

Moderator
Staff
Location
Iceland
Pronouns
she/her/hers
Partners
  1. butterfree
  2. mightyena
  3. charizard
  4. scyther-mia
  5. vulpix
  6. slugma
  7. chinchou
“I have the ability to protect players. My one shot ability involves protecting myself and one other person. I used it a previous night. More on that later. My passive ability is healing Dread when someone interacts with me… whatever form that takes.” She looked over at Odette. “And, to test this Strings theory, my patron… is Cresselia.”
[[For what it's worth, we've already had plenty of people say their patron and get strung - more people doing it doesn't tell us anything. Really testing that theory means everyone keeps quiet about their patron from here on and we see if the stringer manages to string anyone else regardless.]]
 

Blossomleaf

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
she/her
[["didn't know whether to post this here or in the discord. but um. rl stress is to the point where I'm having a terrible night. and if anyone really needs me then um. I'll try and keep up with the thread tomorrow? or ping me on discord if you have to directly. Otherwise I'm going to take a look at all this tomorrow when I'm in a better headspace to play. so sorry about this. and if I'm absent till tomorrow then at least eveyone will know why rn :("]]
 

Flyg0n

Flygon connoisseur
Pronouns
She/her
Partners
  1. flygon
  2. swampert
  3. ho-oh
  4. crobat
  5. orbeetle
  6. joltik
  7. salandit
  8. tyrantrum
  9. porygon
[[I feel good about Pano's swapping information too; as a mafia swapper, clearly she wouldn't have legitimately swapped the mafia's killer with the mafia's target, and as Chibi mentioned, if she wasn't responsible for that, she's opening herself easily to a counterclaim from the actual responsible party - plus wouldn't the tension between Bench and Blossom serve the mafia pretty well otherwise? Unless, I guess, the mafia is just afraid of the Beast and really wanted to ensure Blossom doesn't get offed, but all in all, seems a stretch.]]
[[Oh, to further clarify, my logic about that was:

Abra/Yellow didn't lie about time powers so their 'skip a night phase' is also likely true and we know scum can't have that power so theoretically abra is pretty clear.

At least I think that makes sense.

On a broader note

And... hm tbh I have null/off reads on Sind, Starlight rn.

By off I mean... not quite a sus but just a 'HMMMM '.]]
 

Flyg0n

Flygon connoisseur
Pronouns
She/her
Partners
  1. flygon
  2. swampert
  3. ho-oh
  4. crobat
  5. orbeetle
  6. joltik
  7. salandit
  8. tyrantrum
  9. porygon
[[*Raises hand.*]]

“…Anyway,” Winona sighed, “at the risk of putting a target on my back, and in the hopes to sort of clear my name and hopefully help narrow down suspects, I’ll lay my cards on the table. All of them. Better me than someone more useful, because quite frankly, I haven’t done a very good job of… well, using my abilities.

“I have the ability to protect players. My one shot ability involves protecting myself and one other person. I used it a previous night. More on that later. My passive ability is healing Dread when someone interacts with me… whatever form that takes.” She looked over at Odette. “And, to test this Strings theory, my patron… is Cresselia.”

[[Pink sparkly Torchic works for pink sparkly swan. :>]]
[[This doesn't seem much like a scum claim tbh

Torchic may be truthful and innocent. Even though revealing this is not ideal]]
 

Flyg0n

Flygon connoisseur
Pronouns
She/her
Partners
  1. flygon
  2. swampert
  3. ho-oh
  4. crobat
  5. orbeetle
  6. joltik
  7. salandit
  8. tyrantrum
  9. porygon
[[Oh last note before I have to go do things.

Does anyone wonder if the Beast is related to the strings?]]
 

Dragonfree

Moderator
Staff
Location
Iceland
Pronouns
she/her/hers
Partners
  1. butterfree
  2. mightyena
  3. charizard
  4. scyther-mia
  5. vulpix
  6. slugma
  7. chinchou
Abra/Yellow didn't lie about time powers so their 'skip a night phase' is also likely true and we know scum can't have that power so theoretically abra is pretty clear.
[[Well, I don't think anyone proposed Abra is lying about time powers! If Abra is mafia, likely they just told us the one-shot power was to skip the night when really it's to skip the day.]]
 

Dragonfree

Moderator
Staff
Location
Iceland
Pronouns
she/her/hers
Partners
  1. butterfree
  2. mightyena
  3. charizard
  4. scyther-mia
  5. vulpix
  6. slugma
  7. chinchou
[[Oh last note before I have to go do things.

Does anyone wonder if the Beast is related to the strings?]]
"Well, the stringer sure has been plenty active. If it were them, maybe today they can instakill everyone they strung, or some shit? Maybe then I'll get to leave this fucking game."

[[Or maybe they gain the ability to nightkill? But that doesn't seem very related to the stringing ability.]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
heh_front.png"Alright, the Boss helped me put together some notes about what we know so far."

[[As it stands right now, the 100% unknowns in terms of patron or power are (in no particular order):
- Inke
- Persephone
- Tetra
- Sind
- bruh (Q/Mewtini)
- SparklingEspeon

Others who are unknown but with soft claims are:
- Chibi
- Starlight
- Sind (I know she's on here in two separate categories but she did offer up to soft claim but no one followed up on that offer)

Unconfirmed/unsubstantiated claims are:
- Shini
- Torchic

More substantiated claims but no 100% alignment confirmation:
- Free
- Bench
- Yellow/Abra
- Seren
- Blossom
- and myself

(also if I missed anyone or miscategorized in terms of people who have claimed/softclaimed and I missed them, let me know)

And my thoughts on all this:

Of the first group, I'm leaning more towny play with bruh (Q/mewtini) and Tetra, at the moment. Inke was a strong town read for me at the start, but I'm side eyeing their push to skip last night's night phase. I'm pretty null on Persephone, Sind, and Sparkling Espeon based on not a lot of gameplay to go on. Sind is more town leaning to me of the last bunch b/c of the recap posts they've done before, and also the fact that they were willing to softclaim without much pressure being put on them.

Of the second group, these are all soft claims (or in Sind's case willingness to softclaim unprompted), with me leaning Chibi town and Starlight scum (based on night skipping and willingness to sacrifice info roles).

Of the third group, Torchic I feel like is being truthful to the point that on D1 they claimed to "plead the fifth" when they mentioned Cresselia in response to Free's Darkrai/Dread claim. I had been guessing they might have been some kind of doctor since then. Shini's claim makes sense on some level, but was kind of confusing on others. I honestly have no idea on their alignment.

Of the last group, almost all of these are very substantial claims backed up by gameplay results. I'm inclined to believe all of these are pro-town players, with maybe the only exception maybe being Seren since both Mafia and Town would benefit from being able to shield from status/marking powers, but that seems like a stretch given their town-helpful play thus far.

TL;DR: current sus list (in no particular order) is:
- Starlight
- Inke
- Persephone
- Sparkling Espeon
- maybe Shini
- maybe Sind
- maybe Tetra

Given a total of seven hostiles, and assuming Blu was considered a hostile, we're down to five remaining suspects, of which three or four are scum, and one or two are TP (which probably includes the Beast and/or the Stringer).]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
[[When did I push for that? Are you sure you aren't confusing me with Starlight here?]]
[[No, but you did say you liked some of the points Starlight raised (which I interpreted to mean about skipping the night, since it happened in this post by you around the time of the discussion of the night-skipping power).

"Argue as much as you like about skipping the night. I couldn't care less," Mademoiselle snarled. She looked just about ready to skip the formalities to get rid of the slakoth on her own. The only thing that stopped her was the fact that their little host wouldn't have any of it and would try to stop her in some way.
- Courtney (Starlight Aurate) - I do like her points quite a bit, however, is very Third-party oriented which brings up the very real possibility that she's scum trying to look good. Will need to give a closer read.
I kind of took both of these in the context of you being in favor of skipping the night, which felt like a bad move from a Town perspective. Could just be a misinterpretation my part, but you didn't seem that against skipping the night, which I found odd.]]
 
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