[TOWN WIN] Darkwhite's Role Overdrive Mafia

[IFBench]

[[Alright, I'm here to answer some questions. Still need to read through some stuff, though.]]

[[First off, I never got any notifications about my alignment changing.]]

[[Second, I did not get any notifications that I was hit.]]

 

[Flyg0n]

[[As of now I am considering voting Sans. Eliminating a TP is good, and I almost want to think he's lying so he can execute his plan tonight?

Still contemplating]]

 

[Dragonfree]

Yellow claimed her legend as Dialga already, a full day before she got stringed! Obviously saying a legendary doesn't trigger a string, as Shini also mentioned they were Mew. Way before they got stringed.

Now maybe one's legendary has to be said before they can be stringed, or its all one big coincidence but the facts clearly show that saying your legend doesn't directly trigger a string.

[[I expect regardless of anything, stringing is a day action someone takes, not something that happens automatically triggered by whatever. So if the player was absent, or wanted to wait for something, they wouldn’t necessarily do it immediately when they’re able to. There may also be limitations on when and how often they can do it.

The fact the three people targeted so far are people who named their patron is pretty interesting - I’m wary of assuming with total confidence that my theory was right given it could be the stringer just wants us to think that’s what it’s about, but I don’t think it should be discounted as irrelevant because it didn’t happen right away.]]

 

[Flyg0n]

[[I expect regardless of anything, stringing is a day action someone takes, not something that happens automatically triggered by whatever. So if the player was absent, or wanted to wait for something, they wouldn’t necessarily do it immediately when they’re able to. There may also be limitations on when and how often they can do it.

The fact the three people targeted so far are people who named their patron is pretty interesting - I’m wary of assuming with total confidence that my theory was right given it could be the stringer just wants us to think that’s what it’s about, but I don’t think it should be discounted as irrelevant because it didn’t happen right away.]]

[[Yeah, this I agree with. Given the 1 string, followed the next day by 2, we can reasonably guess that its a day action, not a triggered action.]]

 

[Blossomleaf]

[[Alright, I'm here to answer some questions. Still need to read through some stuff, though.]]

[[First off, I never got any notifications about my alignment changing.]]

[[Second, I did not get any notifications that I was hit.]]

"That lines up with what happened to us as well." Nanu chimed in agreement.

[[Okay let's try to cover some things. @Seren Regarding why I don't believe patron legendaries trigger a string:

Yellow claimed her legend as Dialga already, a full day before she got stringed! Obviously saying a legendary doesn't trigger a string, as Shini also mentioned they were Mew. Way before they got stringed.

Now maybe one's legendary has to be said before they can be stringed, or its all one big coincidence but the facts clearly show that saying your legend doesn't directly trigger a string.

Next, @Blossomleaf that doesn't really clarify because first you basically talked as if you can investigate like 1-2 people a night somehow.

You can't make claims of being to investigate people, clear threee entire people and not explain yourself. We need information if you're town]]

"Well, with a game this big is it really so hard to accept that there can be multiple investigations per night? Especially if we have more threats at play than mafia. And according to Windskull seven hostile that can potentially win if we're not careful?" Nanu pointed out.

 

[Flyg0n]

"That lines up with what happened to us as well." Nanu chimed in agreement.


"Well, with a game this big is it really so hard to accept that there can be multiple investigations per night? Especially if we have more threats at play than mafia. And according to Windskull seven hostile that can potentially win if we're not careful?" Nanu pointed out.

[[You're still not answering the question. You already outed that you can investigate at night. If you can provide additional information on what precisely you looked for and what you got, you ought to share!

If you have more information you should say it. Given you already said you're an investigator.

What exactly did you try to investigate for?
What exact response did you get?

Namo says in his signup post that wording is very important.

Withholding information after already outing yourself as an investigator is not very helpful to town. Please, if you know something speak up.

And I'm not saying to claim a patron legend or the full extent of your powers but you need to elaborate on the investigation thing you claimed.]]

 

[Blossomleaf]

[[You're still not answering the question. You already outed that you can investigate at night. If you can provide additional information on what precisely you looked for and what you got, you ought to share!

If you have more information you should say it. Given you already said you're an investigator.

What exactly did you try to investigate for?
What exact response did you get?

Namo says in his signup post that wording is very important.

Withholding information after already outing yourself as an investigator is not very helpful to town. Please, if you know something speak up.

And I'm not saying to claim a patron legend or the full extent of your powers but you need to elaborate on the investigation thing you claimed.]]

"Hm. Well it's more like at this point I'm putting a target on myself to be taken out possibly in N3 at this point." Nanu replied uncomfortably. "But at the same time if I'm not able to investigate or find town or mafia. Then the answer is already in what I said. Because I'm trying to find one other party in this game. And if Sans is 3rd party then it's clear Chatot botched for voting no elimination. Because at this point it would have been better to have ppl taken out statistically. Then keeping more ppl alive and making night time actions more problematic."

 

[Blossomleaf]

"Which is code for she played it too safe and cautious and is now regretting her decisions. Even though there really wasn't a right call to make if we were just firing aimlessly at night with nothing to show for it. Now that two nights have gone by and we're about to go into a 3rd."

 

[Dragonfree]

[[It’s still hard to tell what you’re saying. You’ve already claimed an investigative power; you are already a target, and being cagey at this point is just unhelpful to town. Are you saying that you have the power to investigate a person and find out if they are a third party or not? Or that you’re only looking for one specific third party, and your action lets you figure out if the target is that specific person or not?]]

 

[IFBench]

[[Oh, right, the information! I almost forgot about that.]]

[[Should I still reveal it? It's not that important, but I think it could clear up some possible confusion that might potentially happen down the line.]]

 

[Dragonfree]

[[By all means do if it’s not going to put townies in danger.]]

 

[IFBench]

[[I know who Equitial/Bartholomew's patron legendary is.]]

 

[Flyg0n]

"Hm. Well it's more like at this point I'm putting a target on myself to be taken out possibly in N3 at this point." Nanu replied uncomfortably. "But at the same time if I'm not able to investigate or find town or mafia. Then the answer is already in what I said. Because I'm trying to find one other party in this game. And if Sans is 3rd party then it's clear Chatot botched for voting no elimination. Because at this point it would have been better to have ppl taken out statistically. Then keeping more ppl alive and making night time actions more problematic."

[[I am echoing Free and saying that being cagey is not helping town. You already said too much way back when you said you investigated those threee players and 'cleared' them.

The time to be coy is seemingly over.

The more clear info we have now, Day 3, helps stop us from sussing you or acting on misinformation.]]

 

[Flyg0n]

[[I know who Equitial/Bartholomew's patron legendary is.]]

[[I think that sounds safe to say!]]

 

[bruh moment]

"I'm... not sure I'm following this? Laura/Jackie was the one targeted with Puck/Yellow's supposed half-blocking/half-motivator power. If Jackie was their factional kill, why would the ability to shoot twice have transferred to a different player? Abilities target players, not other abilities."

[[ i think the factional kill is a special case. if the power is transferred i expect that modifiers on it would be transferred. ]]

Choosing No Elimination on Day 2 seems... atypical, in my experience.

[[ i did not choose no elimination, i just chose a wagon that i didn't think was probably a villager. but no elimination is better than killing a townie, yes. ]]

[[Okay so can we take him and Pano out now???]]

[[ if pano is affiliated with blu, it's probably because she's part of his cult and will go down with him anyway. ]]

"....Care to elaborate on this?"

[[ the whole post you're quoting from here is all the elaboration on it i have ]]

q's posts have been largely meming here

[[ this is literally not true. are you reading my posts or just saying the easy thing? ]]

I don't really think it's fair to get angry at people comparing your current play to past experience when you're offering nothing else to go on

[[ the number of jokes i make is not "play experience." that's not a read. i have made plenty of other posts—if you feel that you don't have anything else to make a read on, that's not my fault, and it doesn't make this lazy point any less lazy. ]]

Granted, no, it's not alignment indicative,

[[ lol? bad post, stopped reading ]]

[[Is 25% mafia typical? Asking out of curiosity; I really don't know the ratio.]]

[[ the rule of thumb is 3:1 town:mafia, but in role madness and with third parties stuff gets a little funky. ]]

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[[ i literally do not understand what blossomleaf is saying at all right now and it kind of feels like cap. ]]

[[ re the bluwii situation:

vote: bluwiikoon

i see no reason not to do this. bluwii is suggesting that taking him out at night will prevent all his converts from dying, but i kind of doubt it? i feel like more likely he just has access to a doctor or something and is trying to get us to shoot him on his terms.

going to the meta a bit, 7 hostiles is believable but feels like it's going to be really rough for town, especially if bluwii dying knocks out a bunch of initially town-aligned players. if bluwii is to be believed, the balance is going to be pretty shifted by EOD. i have to believe we have some kind of kill power aside from shini's (?) lined up, but we haven't seen it yet. maybe the vig is just being cautious with their shot. i don't know. just thinking out loud here. -q ]]

 

[IFBench]

[[Equitial/Bartholomew's patron legendary is Latias.]]

 

[Flyg0n]

[[ @Bluwiikoon

I don't suppose we can persuade you to tell us who is in your gamer club, or to elaborate on your powers more >:} ?

But even though my sus of Q isn't gone, I agree that Bluwii may be our best bet...]]

 

[Flyg0n]

[[Equitial/Bartholomew's patron legendary is Latias.]]

[[Fascinating....]]

 

[bruh moment]

[[ i'm depressed blossomleaf isn't cop because it would make the PoE so much easier. -q ]]

 

[AbraPunk]

She plucked someone out of the ground and stuck Puck's card that he'd left behind in the mound of sand as the newcomer revealed themselves. Along with it were the notes that Puck and his guardian had made.

Well, this is different.

He was standing in front of a crowd of other pokemon, most of them seeming agitated about something, while rocks spoke.

[[ haha it me ]]

He jumped, hissing. "What--?"

Oh. He had one of those rocks, too. Great.

A deep sigh escaped his mouth. This was going to be a long... day? Week? Whatever.

If anyone looked over, they would have seen a Kadabra, and an unusual one at that. This Kadabra had vitiligo, and completely lacked the trademark whiskers his species usually had. He also had some dark eyebags.

"Greetings, all. My name is Aster, and I suppose I'll be... what was the term? 'Subbing in' for a Quagsire."

[[ Now, if you'll excuse us-- we have quite a lot of reading and note-taking to do, so... ]]

A giant book appeared in Aster's hands. He stared at it for a few seconds, then shrugged and began to read.

[[ most likely inactive for a few hours bc school ]]