[[Oh, sorry, Dave was actually insulting me for doing so much of the posting lately. Not you!]]
[[Genuine question: Why are the vibes so abysmal in those posts (not that I agree with them, since I think it's too soon to declare "dead air" rn and Mafia have been known to take advantage of dead air for bussing purposes--see Shini, last game)?]][[ i am extremely squinting at the posts about dadv. absymal vibes. -q ]]
[[Okay, so do we even KNOW that swapping happened at all?!? Right now, both Yellow and Seren claim to have made the mark. Yellow targeted uA. Seren targeted Chibi. So:[[Ok wow I don’t know why this keeps getting mangled so let me explain once and for all:
I targeted Jackie last night. Then Chibi has a marking this morning, and that makes me think that my action got swapped to Chibi. Seren claims the mark is his doing, not mine, so we are waiting on what he has to say. It is possible that I am mistaken and the mark is not from my action. However I was very sure of it originally. We will know more once Seren elaborates.
I did not do any swapping myself. I am not accusing anyone specifically of being scum. Only hypothesizing scenarios.
I really hope that clears things up lol.
[[Hold up, I do not like this AT ALL. You're unvoting bluwii because no one is defending Bluwii. So you're voting for Tetra because... no one is defending Tetra either?! Bluwii at least claimed an action and is refusing to talk about it. Tetra has been contributing at least a little and to vote her PURELY based off inactivity--while claiming to defend Bluwii due to his inactivity--does not feel safe for me in the slightest.]]I was getting ready to reply to this but then I saw your latest message and…hmm. It’s got me thinking about some things. But seriously, if you have info to share, please share it. We can’t afford a mislynch with so many unknown factors.
And in that regard, I am going to change my vote because someone (Free?) brought up the fact that nobody is defending Bluwii. For those of you unfamiliar with Mafia, that’s a BIG red flag because that means scum are perfectly happy to let the mislynch happen. I still want to hear from Bluwii before the day is over, but for now I am changing my vote to someone much more suspicious.
Unvote: Bluwii
VOTE: Tetra]]
[[<3 Take care!]][[the glandular fever is kicking my ass and i have irl shit all day tomorrow
i am going to be quiet and probably very confused for the rest of the day phase
thank you for your understanding
- 1am jackie cat, with love]]
[[You're leaving the Bluwii bandwagon to hop on another bandwagon for a character who has also been inactive?[[also i was going to watch who hopped on the Bluwii wagon once I started in, by providing bait, but now that i'm not sure i'll manage posting tomorrow and yellow has pointed out Dead Air Means Dead Town like i was gonna: i don't want to lynch bluwii, i don't trust him but i don't like the wagon authentically. i am feeling much better about yellow after her clarifying post and also catching the Dead Air, so i'll join her wagon, bc i like her reasoning.]]
vote: tetra
[[So you think uA has an ability that permits reusing an action if one with a matching action targets them? Do you think uA targeted you? I'm a bit confused about this ability, but it supports that uA did something last night that and keeping quiet about it.]][[Okay, okay. So my Legendary has an ability that let's me reuse an action if someone with a matching action targets me. One of said action is a Self-Targeting Deflector and another is a Roleblocker. The reason why I'm sus of Jackie is that I think Jackie might be a Self-Targeting Deflector.]]
"To be honest, I kind of think making weird votes would look less suspicious than what he claimed, yeah."[[ dragonfree had straight up claimed to be a red check just a few pages before and it basically worked out for her. i don't think it's a big stretch that blu might have been encouraged enough by those results to do the same thing himself—lampshading his behavior in the hopes that it would make it less suspicious. like, you have to consider the alternative—if he hadn't done this, he would be required to justify weird votes for the rest of the game. not the best place to be in, as town certainly but especially for mafia. to me this move entirely makes sense from mafia!blu. it doesn't not make sense from town!blu, but it is a bit stranger imo. -q ]]
"Alright, I just want to get this straight. You can use either of those two specific actions if someone with that role targets you. You weren't necessarily targeted by either of those last night, you just know they're in the game, since, well... they're mentioned on your card. That's why you think Laura could be one. Because you know the role exists, and it would explain Puck's mark landing on me, without the need for a swapper."[[Okay, okay. So my Legendary has an ability that let's me reuse an action if someone with a matching action targets me. One of said action is a Self-Targeting Deflector and another is a Roleblocker. The reason why I'm sus of Jackie is that I think Jackie might be a Self-Targeting Deflector.]]
"That's not a fucking fact, though, is it? The Snivy's sure been disputing that. I guess this opens the possibility that both her and the Quagsire are right? They both put diamonds on her, because Kimiko targeted her directly, and Quagsire targeted Laura who's redirecting everything to Ajia?"[[No. I'm not saying that she targeted me. I'm saying that my patron let's me reuse an action if they target me.
Because of that, I think there's a Self-Targeting Deflector in this game and the fact that Jackie was swapped Chibi, I have reasons to suspect that Jackie deflected to Chibi.
Then I thought to myself. Why would Jackie deflect to Chibi if Chibi's known to be a good scum hunter?]]
[[Yeah, I also raised a bit of an eyebrow at how weirdly quickly they got on the Bluwii train and then off it again. I'm not quite sure if it reads as partners with Bluwii so much as just like... hopping onto what seems like it's going to be an easy bandwagon and then getting spooked by resistance? But even then it kind of feels clumsier than I'd expect from them as mafia? Aaagh need more rereading to be sure what I think but brain keeps just wanting to watch the new posts and getting distracted.]][[ i am extremely squinting at the posts about dadv. absymal vibes. -q ]]
[[With how my ability's been worded. I currently have 4 powers, all of which are one-use. My ability let's me reuse one of these actions if someone targets me with a matching power.[[So you think uA has an ability that permits reusing an action if one with a matching action targets them? Do you think uA targeted you? I'm a bit confused about this ability, but it supports that uA did something last night that and keeping quiet about it.]]
[["Okay wait. wait. I found time to reply tonight and I'm going to reiterate and quote this from earlier."Hmm. Whelp. To be honest I'm of the personal opinion that Sans might be a red herring that mafia is hoping town will focus all their attention for D2." Nanu surmised honestly. "However...given that we are currently in D2 I have to ask, do we normally vote someone out at this point? Or is a Day 2 lynch not ideal?" The Island kahuna asked, figuring now would be a good time to get more information about this 'mafia game' and how it works.
[[ it's just... literally not dadv, in any way. that's something you say if it's about to hit eod and everyone has been sitting on the same wagon for the entire day and discussion has died off, not if three people sit on an unpushed vote for two hours while everyone is playing legends arceus. idk. as free says maybe it isn't a partnered move but i don't know how to interpret it, it's just extremely weird and pinging me like crazy. -q ]][[Genuine question: Why are the vibes so abysmal in those posts (not that I agree with them, since I think it's too soon to declare "dead air" rn and Mafia have been known to take advantage of dead air for bussing purposes--see Shini, last game)?]]
[[These are all fair points. Again, do we KNOW that a swap happened? Yellow could have targeted uA with something and uA is keeping quiet (and being kicked by glandular fever, so I'm very sympathetic to that).]]Dave dragged a paw over his face, thinking. "Well, if deflector Laura were in the mafia, then it's not like she expected to be potentially targeted with a killing power, right? So why would she target a particularly useful townie? That doesn't hold up. Meanwhile townie deflector Laura really would be risking Ajia by doing it. Neither option makes a whole lot of sense."
[[Yeah, I've got to admit town Jackie deflecting onto Chibi sounds pretty odd? On the meta level? Town doctor Jackie just heals Chibi the whole game. Unless like, they thought they'd get healed and wanted to get the heals onto Chibi? Either way, none of this is at all valid unless Jackie really is the deflector, which isn't exactly a surety.]]
[[This is another reason why I think there's a third party here; I don't think uA and Yellow are partners with Bluwii, but used him as an easy, early target and then hopped to another inactive together.]][[Yeah, I also raised a bit of an eyebrow at how weirdly quickly they got on the Bluwii train and then off it again. I'm not quite sure if it reads as partners with Bluwii so much as just like... hopping onto what seems like it's going to be an easy bandwagon and then getting spooked by resistance? But even then it kind of feels clumsier than I'd expect from them as mafia? Aaagh need more rereading to be sure what I think but brain keeps just wanting to watch the new posts and getting distracted.]]
[[Okay, that makes more sense. Following Free's logic, I think uA is probably not a Self-Targeting Deflector--or at least, didn't use that ability last night.]][[With how my ability's been worded. I currently have 4 powers, all of which are one-use. My ability let's me reuse one of these actions if someone targets me with a matching power.
The way the card's been worded leads me to believe that there are currently 4 known powers in the gamr, two of which I've already said. The other two are a healing power and a kill power.
I suspect Jackie might be a Self-Targeting Deflector because of how the card's been worded and how there's a swap between Jackie and Chibi.
I mean Jackie could definitely also not be a Self-Targeting Deflector or there might be 2 swappers in this game.]]
[[Hi hi, still have not had the chance to scrounge the thread, so I have absolutely no idea what’s going on but I logged in to a ping for me and figured I’d answer it because I was gonna touch on it when i went back to comb, and I’ve also just felt really really anxious about not contributing today so I at least want to get something in for now. Once again, I am really sorry y’all.]]Clasping her hands behind her back, she turned to look at Odette. "Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but the way you went after the swellow yesterday just for bringing up cressellia rubbed me the wrong way."
[[ @Sinderella I may have missed it, but could you expand on your reasoning or else point me back to your reasoning regarding this? I admittedly may be overscrutinizing a minor detail but it would help put my mind at ease.]]
[[I see. Yeah, I feel the same way. Bluwii still tops my sus list, but I do want to hear from him (understandable that we're not rn because timezones be zoning). I'm also going to make no comments on Yellow until we hear more from Seren, since I feel that he's gonna help clear a ton of things up.[[ it's just... literally not dadv, in any way. that's something you say if it's about to hit eod and everyone has been sitting on the same wagon for the entire day and discussion has died off, not if three people sit on an unpushed vote for two hours while everyone is playing legends arceus. idk. as free says maybe it isn't a partnered move but i don't know how to interpret it, it's just extremely weird and pinging me like crazy. -q ]]
[[Ah, I see! Thank you for the clarification.]]And I'm not joining Yellow bc Tetra is quiet, I'm joining bc Tetra is inconsistent with previous town play and I think playsktre chsnges are indicatice of an unfamiliar alignment!
[[It's because of the diamond mark, which was publicly revealed to have landed on me. If Yellow was in fact responsible for the diamond, and not seren, then a swap/redirect must have happened.]][[These are all fair points. Again, do we KNOW that a swap happened? Yellow could have targeted uA with something and uA is keeping quiet (and being kicked by glandular fever, so I'm very sympathetic to that).]]
[[I am curious to hear from @Bluwiikoon what he had to say about the diamond? Otherwise, Bluwii's just... an inactive, who has claimed a power that's pretty suspect-sounding. I would not want to go for voting him until he has gotten a chance to speak up and explain exactly what he claims his voting power actually does (which I definitely agree he needs to do at this point; we need some answers here).]]sans pensively regarded the remains of Bartholomew for a moment, eyes closed and head bowed. While it was a relief that only one loss had occurred during the night, the sight of the mangled device wasn't very comforting, either.
Sighing, he turned to the rest of the group. "hey gang. i have some ideas about the diamond-shaped-thing here," he gestured to Ajia. "-but, that depends on whether we wanna be speculating about patron legendaries. not sure whether it's a positive or negative effect."
"oh yeah. needless to say, nothing to do with me."
[[As Bluwii explained the voting ability, the target wouldn't know anything about it, so this does check out with Bluwii's claim - but that's because the claim is unfalsifiable.]]"And that doesn't even include the fiasco with bluwii not speaking up about the voting ability. that was supposed to go on bench but apparently didn't happen? which means I feel like we got two issues atm. depending on how everyone is going to reply to what's going on right now.