Mirage
Pokémon Trainer
Heyo guys, sorry for the delay!
Honestly, it might very well come to that, we might not be able to talk no jutsu Weavile into this one. That would be an extra tough dilemma - someone willing would obviously greatly help, but at the same time, it'd be kind of a sacrifice, since people more or less die after we claim them.
That would honestly be super helpful I think! I've also lost track of some of the threads that came up earlier in the story because it's been a while, and honestly, it would be cool to go back and see what kind of foreshadowing Namo laid right under our noses
I might attempt that myself!
I swapped my vote for the essentials option as well, since I wasn't confident in my choice, and it definitely seems like that was the right call! We shared enough that the E4 revealed their info to us, but didn't reveal anything that seemed to set off their suspicion. Awesome!
Oh, of course! I derped on this being after the events of the main games, so naturally, they'd have battled Zekrom/Reshiram/Kyurem. I haven't ever actually finished BW2 to completion (...something I need to change), so I'm not 100% certain if the E4 try to take on Kyurem in that game like they do N and Zekrom/Reshiram in BW, but that's probably where the second fight is from. That at least tells us they likely weren't involved in what caused Yveltal to disappear!
Nice, this is one of the things I've been wondering since the beginning of the story. So it looks like most of Kalos will be much less hostile than the dungeon with Dark Matter we just traversed, if people manage to still survive in it. Curious to see if we might run across some familiar Kalos faces while we're there
Shauntal using her Ghost powers right now to just float through that 4th wall
Hello... we're not Yveltal, we only contain it...? Is that how it disappeared? Are we some other being who actually managed to Claim Yveltal itself, and then we just used it as a proxy for a while, kind of like how we're using Weavile now? But then that begs the question... who was the original "us"?
Wait, so we are Yveltal after all? But then, over time, as we claimed more and more souls - they slowly became part of us, and we slowly evolved into some kind of amalgam being?
If so, wow! I've noticed that our powers are very similar to Dark Matter's, and this would be another thing that we have in common - just as Dark Matter is the combination of everyone's negative feelings, bundled together and feeding on itself, we're a collection of disparate souls tied together into one being. That makes me wonder if we've always been this way, and Yveltal has always merged other souls into its own, or if something changed recently that caused this?
The other thing - I love that this now gives a consistent in-universe reason for how Negrek, myself, and everyone else contributes to the story. Like, it would work totally fine if we simply gave our votes and that just becomes the decision Cobble would make, but now we're actually characters within the story itself, and our disembodied suggestions are literally canon - very cool!
I noticed this thought from Weavile?
I'm not that great on S/V lore, but I don't remember there being a Lost City in the story... but I DID go to the VGC championships in Honolulu over the weekend, and I remember a card called "The Lost City" getting played quite a few times in the TCG rounds. Not sure if it's a reference to that, or something totally different...
...But I'm interested
I'm pretty sure "palce" is a typo for "place", but "expertice", I'm legitimately not sure on. I feel like it might be "expertise", but Darach has a very sophisticated way of speaking and I wouldn't be surprised if "expertice" might be a totally different word I don't know. You've successfully faked me out if that's the case
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Okay, plan of action! There's no decision prompt or anything for this round, so I think it's just a Consideration and/or Telepathy here.
Since Weavile is already considering the Lost City, I'm going to use mine to try to dig into our multiple personalities a bit more.
Consider: If we all lost our memories, then what does it mean to be "me"? Do 'I' even exist, or am 'I' just the combination of everyone else?
Indeed. We may need to try and convince him that us fighting Xerneas is for Xerneas' own good... which I'm sure would be an uphill battle. We might ultimately need to look for a new host at some point, one who isn't a Prism Knight. Perhaps we'll find someone who'd let us claim them, err, willingly?
Honestly, it might very well come to that, we might not be able to talk no jutsu Weavile into this one. That would be an extra tough dilemma - someone willing would obviously greatly help, but at the same time, it'd be kind of a sacrifice, since people more or less die after we claim them.
I really want to go back through the thread and pull out what we've heard so far about Dark Matter/Xerneas and the general state of the world so we can get an idea of what the different perspectives are and what contradictions exist. Intrigued by the idea of DM ending up here by accident.
That would honestly be super helpful I think! I've also lost track of some of the threads that came up earlier in the story because it's been a while, and honestly, it would be cool to go back and see what kind of foreshadowing Namo laid right under our noses
I might attempt that myself!
Hmm, I'm kind of inclined to keep it to the essentials. It's tricky because I don't know what that option is actually going to leave out, so maybe it'll involve us being more misleading than I expect, but I don't know that we want to get into the nitty-gritty with everybody here. Especially given that some of our information is surely bad, and I don't know if accidentally telling them something untrue won't come back to bite us later.
I swapped my vote for the essentials option as well, since I wasn't confident in my choice, and it definitely seems like that was the right call! We shared enough that the E4 revealed their info to us, but didn't reveal anything that seemed to set off their suspicion. Awesome!
"Oh. Yes, we have," Shauntal said. "Twice, actually!" She glances at N, who adjusts his hat. You wonder if that hat is real. "Aaaand we lost twice. But! We have some experience."
Oh, of course! I derped on this being after the events of the main games, so naturally, they'd have battled Zekrom/Reshiram/Kyurem. I haven't ever actually finished BW2 to completion (...something I need to change), so I'm not 100% certain if the E4 try to take on Kyurem in that game like they do N and Zekrom/Reshiram in BW, but that's probably where the second fight is from. That at least tells us they likely weren't involved in what caused Yveltal to disappear!
"While it has become entirely distorted, the people within have adjusted to that kind of life relatively well. Many have been displaced, and it's certainly more dangerous, but people are nothing if not resilient to adversity."
Nice, this is one of the things I've been wondering since the beginning of the story. So it looks like most of Kalos will be much less hostile than the dungeon with Dark Matter we just traversed, if people manage to still survive in it. Curious to see if we might run across some familiar Kalos faces while we're there
"Oh, wow. We really got to the core of the A-plot, didn't we?" Shauntal says.
Shauntal using her Ghost powers right now to just float through that 4th wall
Who we are speaking to now. I do not think it is Yveltal of your world, even if you... contain Yveltal."
Hello... we're not Yveltal, we only contain it...? Is that how it disappeared? Are we some other being who actually managed to Claim Yveltal itself, and then we just used it as a proxy for a while, kind of like how we're using Weavile now? But then that begs the question... who was the original "us"?
These... thoughts in your head. Sometimes, you feel words tumble from your mouth that you didn't think to say, and yet did. And you followed along with it.
These thoughts... so diverse and conflicting...
The realization strikes you like lightning. You are Yveltal... and all the souls he'd claimed.
Wait, so we are Yveltal after all? But then, over time, as we claimed more and more souls - they slowly became part of us, and we slowly evolved into some kind of amalgam being?
If so, wow! I've noticed that our powers are very similar to Dark Matter's, and this would be another thing that we have in common - just as Dark Matter is the combination of everyone's negative feelings, bundled together and feeding on itself, we're a collection of disparate souls tied together into one being. That makes me wonder if we've always been this way, and Yveltal has always merged other souls into its own, or if something changed recently that caused this?
The other thing - I love that this now gives a consistent in-universe reason for how Negrek, myself, and everyone else contributes to the story. Like, it would work totally fine if we simply gave our votes and that just becomes the decision Cobble would make, but now we're actually characters within the story itself, and our disembodied suggestions are literally canon - very cool!
The Lost City...
I noticed this thought from Weavile?
I'm not that great on S/V lore, but I don't remember there being a Lost City in the story... but I DID go to the VGC championships in Honolulu over the weekend, and I remember a card called "The Lost City" getting played quite a few times in the TCG rounds. Not sure if it's a reference to that, or something totally different...
...But I'm interested
but it is not my palce nor expertice to expound.
I'm pretty sure "palce" is a typo for "place", but "expertice", I'm legitimately not sure on. I feel like it might be "expertise", but Darach has a very sophisticated way of speaking and I wouldn't be surprised if "expertice" might be a totally different word I don't know. You've successfully faked me out if that's the case
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Okay, plan of action! There's no decision prompt or anything for this round, so I think it's just a Consideration and/or Telepathy here.
Since Weavile is already considering the Lost City, I'm going to use mine to try to dig into our multiple personalities a bit more.
Consider: If we all lost our memories, then what does it mean to be "me"? Do 'I' even exist, or am 'I' just the combination of everyone else?