[[also, frankly, a bit surprised at the lack of skepticism from the room, specifically the people who weren't present at the time of this all going down. No one is uncertain about this? In any way shape or form? I find that hard to believe.]]
[[Well of course I'm skeptical as all hell, but I just... can't see any alternatives? I feel it would just make me look bad if I was the only one objecting with no evidence as to why. I do just feel it's all very coincidental/hypothetical, but I have no alternative suggestions so the idea that Tetra was swapped is the one that makes most sense. ]]
Something that has me side-eyeing loosely (very slightly) is HelloYellow tbh?
In my few times playing mafia, I often note that mafia players tend to be very measured, precise, helpful and a but... clinical? Thats not quite the right word but its close. Basically they sometimes feel like their demeanor feels like a front. I've seen yellow's scum play once and it feels a little similar. But then again I know full well plays can feel weird.
[[I've been saying this in my last several posts. I haven't seen Yellow's scumplay as I missed those games, however I did play with her in second anniversary and she was much more engaging there than she was here (at least, in late game, not as much early game, but that's partly because I stole the spotlight very early on). And from what I've noticed, her posts have been mostly RP flavor and only slight prodding of Pano, talking over with Tetra/you about your own guilt and trying to figure that out (which could have just been her trying to gain favor as it looked like you might be getting cleared). It just feels like she's been much less attentive than she had been in past games and that's what gives me pause.
Again, though, I know she's had some irl gremlins about playing, so maybe she's doing similar to me and just trying not to over-react to things? I don't know. ]]
But why killed Free if my mislynch may have almost been guaranteed? (or at least it felt that way).
[[I also feel compelled to remind everyone that Free was simply a good mafia player with plenty of experience, and it's entirely possible they offed her just to get rid of a good player, and the resulting chaos was just a bonus/not the main reason for doing so.]]
2 guaranteed town (me and jackie)
[[Please do forgive me for not being 100% sold on you yet tbh. There's a part of me that's not convinced the flailing wasn't just pretending to be a panicked townie trying to convince others, and we have no real, tangible proof of a swapper or deflector.]]
Weirdchamp here because I had already mentioned that TP's could be in the game. This was just the first time somebody outright said "wow there could deffo be a certain tp" and you were very caught on that. Seren, are YOU the TP????
[[Yes, you'd already mentioned that it could be in the game, but we all
knew it was a
possibility from the signup/rules anyway? So for Tetra to simply blurt it out out of the blue at this point of the game and then continue on the track as though she'd just come to some sort of epiphany felt weird and unnecessary to me. Can't prove I'm not TP other than saying, no, I am not. I've yet to see any proof that a TP might be at play here whatsoever and I fail to understand why
literally anyone is entertaining this thought
at all.]]
Tetra outs herself. I'm inclined to believe it because my role was also spun to have to do with what Pokemon Loic is. That doesn't mean it wasn't like this for everyone but, I can at least attest that Tetra probably didn't fabricate that.
[[This sounds plausible... mine was less about the species but it definitely used my opening post's RP flavor for my role. ]]
Can't tell if Seren's just new to this or trying to seem helpful but not, but the questions they're raising are...oddball. "Why suggest a TP?" "Doesn't claiming cop seem like a mafia thing to do?" From my context clues, Seren HAS played at least once before, so maybe they're new, but...it could also seem to me that they're trying to keep the sus back on Jackie, or they're the fucking TP.
[[My only other game was second anniversary. This is my second game ever (I swore I've mentioned this numerous times, both here and in the discord???) And honestly, admittedly reading myself here, but this feels like it tracks with my own play in that game. Quite a few people raised eyebrows at my play because I was decidedly town but not quite acting like it. I'd 100% consider myself a newbie, and why I reeeeeeally fucking regret that I missed the newbie game a couple months ago. I'd have
loved to get in on that. Kinda wishing I waited till the next one tbh.
That said... I still just do not understand the hype surrounding this Third Party thing. Yes, it could be a thing, or it could no. The point is we
don't fucking know. I'm not suggesting we completely ignore the possibility, only that there's been literally no evidence that one has been added to this game, and I don't understand why people are harping on it so much as if one is confirmed.
Yes
I am aware of the irony that I am contributing to that harping, but because I don't understand why others are so determined to follow that path yet. We have quite a bit of other things going on without worrying about a role that we don't even know is in the game or not.
It's a bloody distraction that we do not need right now considering how little confirmed information we actually have.
Final note... I am not saying Jackie is mafia at all. Mafia can't have a cop, far as I know of. It wouldn't make sense. Mafia already know who is what alignment, why would they need a cop? I'm not saying Jackie didn't false claim, but I don't believe that's the case. I just think it's a really dumb/bold move to claim cop regardless of alignment, although I stated in another prior post how it seemed like Jackie did so due to irl pressure and a feeling of "not caring if she lived in-game anymore so might as well go out with a bang."]]
[[I was going to comment on this. Honestly, I’m just going to let this matter rest for now, but I wouldn’t be so quick to fully buy in to the bus driver/both tetra and Jackie are innocent theory. Yes, it would require some excellent acting and galaxy-braining, but I know both of them are capable of that. This isn’t me throwing active sus just yet, but I’m not going to 100% buy into it yet either. I’m proceeding and trusting them, but with caution.
I think Seren was trying to argue for Tetra’s case, in that “If Tetra is the TP, why would she go out of her way to bring it up?” Which, honestly, fair point. If you’re a TP, it would be a pretty terrible play to just bring it up out of the blue like that.
[[
YES, thank you. Do you have any other ideas, though? Because while I agree with your thoughts on the bud driver thing, my reasoning for not mentioning it is because I have no clue what could be the alternative. And you understood what I was getting at with the TP thing, I don't know why it's so hard for me to put into words, but yes.
I see why this might lead Sind to believe that I am the third party because of my hyper defending of it, but... literally the same defense applies to me. Why the fuck would I continue to keep it in everyone's spotlight if I was the TP? I want it to go away, NOT because I'm a TP but because I have seen literally ZERO EVIDENCE that it exists other than Tetra bringing it up here, and people continue to treat it as though it's confirmed.
Great and now I'm agreeing with one of my own sus reads what the fuck is going on ]]
“Not saying anything helpful” I was literally the first person to offer to softclaim. You all told me not to but now you’re side-eying me for not saying anything more? I am confusion. I don’t know what y’all are asking of me, here.
[[Claiming your role was interesting, yeah, but then when Tetra -you know, the one
actually under scrutiny at the time - claimed, it became exponentially less useful for you to just go revealing your own role to everyone, too. Outside of that, you've been less engaging than you were in the previous experience I've had with you.
(Admittedly, you making points for me here have alleviated that feeling somewhat, and by extension have weakened my sus on you tbh. Which... brings me back to square one, because I'm not reading
anyone super sus right now. Side-eyeing Tetra and maybe Shini, but only tentatively. ]]
[[Going to cut this post short because I believe we're only a half hour away from end of day and I want to at least try to get caught up if nothing else. ]]
