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[MAFIA WIN] Team Skull Recruitment Mafia (5th Anniversary Mafia)

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HelloYellow17

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Oh…she’d never gotten an opportunity to talk to Cygnus. That was a shame. Hopefully the Dunce Room wasn’t too bad.

Rui took a seat over near the snack table and listened as the theories began flying, nodding occasionally or tilting her head to consider various possibilities. “I think I agree with Jack on at least one thing. Failing to vote someone out doesn’t really mean they’ll become a target in the night for the mafia. If anything, they’d want that person to stay alive as a potential misdirect, like Jack said.” She blinked. “Or…I think that’s what you were saying? Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t want to put words in your mouth!” She laughed lightly.

She nodded at Isaac. “I agree that there’s probably not a whole lot to learn from the votes yesterday. They were all pretty random! But…well, I know information is important for us to have, but we shouldn’t be encouraging everyone to spill the beans. Whatever we learn, the mafia learns it, too. So please be careful!

I don’t think Cygnus died by a paranoid gun owner…because we’d probably have more than one casualty in that case, right? Unless somebody got protected last night, which is a possibility…hm. In any case, the fact that only one person died last night makes me thing maybe there isn’t a third party, after all. At least, not the kind that can shoot people.”

She furrowed her brow and chewed her bottom lip in thought. “I don’t know what to think yet. I’d like to hear what the rest of you guys have to say!”

[[So far I don’t have any strong reads. Free is once again pinging me as town, but she ALWAYS READS AS TOWN TO ME LOL. Lawd these games screw with my brain. 😂 Help.

I’m sliiightly side-eying tomatorade for hinting that people should reveal their info, but that’s not exactly unusual for players to request that. That’s about all I got so far.]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

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When Phoebe heard that it was Cygnus who had left the group, she looked distressed, bringing a hand up to cover her mouth. She held it there for a moment before bringing it down to her heart, clenching her fist tight.

"Maybe they'll have snacks in the dunce room, too?" she said after a moment, forcing some cheer into her tone. "A bummer he's gone, though."

The downside of a game like this; not everyone got to stick around. Phoebe squinted at the sheet again, reading down the list of ridiculous role names. She glanced up at Isaac and then Rui.

"I'm also surprised we only had one elimination last night. It seems like there's a lot of different ways someone could be taken out at night, either accidentally or on purpose. But it is a small game, and with possibly two healing roles and two different kinds of roleblockers, it could be that the chances are higher that potential kills were blocked/protected."

"But maybe that's why poor Cygnus was targeted. If the thugs thought everyone's attention would be elsewhere, they'd know they could get a free kill."

Phoebe made a small frustrated noise, rocking back and forth on her heels once again. It seemed to be her thinking fidget.

"Everyone is making good observations, but none of them are pointing at any sort of indications on who knows more information than they should. At least, none that I'm picking up on, but that might not mean much," she said with a half-hearted giggle.
 

Dragonfree

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Rui took a seat over near the snack table and listened as the theories began flying, nodding occasionally or tilting her head to consider various possibilities. “I think I agree with Jack on at least one thing. Failing to vote someone out doesn’t really mean they’ll become a target in the night for the mafia. If anything, they’d want that person to stay alive as a potential misdirect, like Jack said.” She blinked. “Or…I think that’s what you were saying? Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t want to put words in your mouth!” She laughed lightly.
Jack scratched his head awkwardly. "Yeah, that's what I was saying. Sorry if I went a bit overboard there."

He listened to Rui and Phoebe, nodding slowly. "Yeah, one of the other things I was saying was if Cygnus was killed by something else, that'd also have to mean something neutralized the mafia's kill. But maybe that's not actually that unlikely to happen in this setup, what with several possible non-mafia killing roles - let's see, the list had vigilante, serial killer and paranoid gun owner - and also several things that can prevent a kill - doctor, roleblocker, mime, bulletproof and hider. So maybe it's just luck that we only wound up with the one kill?" He shrugged.

"But there's also what Sriracha and Phoebe are saying, I guess. They could have figured something like that Cygnus wouldn't be protected, or that he might get investigated and that way they could waste the investigation. It's not really what I'd do as mafia, but depending on where the mafia's coming from that could also be their train of thought. I was probably getting a bit too fixated on what I'd do there, but obviously people will have different thought processes about that sort of thing."
 

Dragonfree

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[[I need to be doing some drawing and getting to bed, but hopefully tomorrow I can do some rereading of yesterday and muse on my reads on people so far.]]
 

HelloYellow17

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"But maybe that's why poor Cygnus was targeted. If the thugs thought everyone's attention would be elsewhere, they'd know they could get a free kill."
Rui raised a finger. “Oh, that’s another good point!”

[[If someone is on the scum team/TP/vig who has a meta knowledge of TR mafia history, it’s entirely plausible they would aim for a low-key/lesser known player, figuring that a doc might proactively heal the “meta” targets and neutralize their shot. For example, Chibi had a reputation for a while of dying super early because their sleuthing skills scared scum so much. 😂 Not that I want to get too meta-gamey here, because we have a good mix of veteran and newer players anyhow. This is just an observation I had.]]
 

Flyg0n

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Anubis had remained silent when he'd woken, considering the implications of that poor boy getting eliminated. "I think whoever voted Cygnus could have wanted to add suspicion... or perhaps the answer is two fold, and they hoped to avoid suspicion by killing the one they voted for, assuming we would absolve them..." No wait, he was beginning to confuse himself with that train of thought.

"Or perhaps the scum tried to kill tonight and a vigilante killed Cygnus... Another possibility is the doctor protected someone, if we have a doctor, and they picked lucky...."

[[First, apologies, brain is split between some other stuff like an rp combat in another server but I'm gonna try to knuckle down today and focus.
There's always a conundrum in role madness because with all the weird stuff in play I am reluctant to assume why someone died... Of course, we have no way of knowing Cygnus role, unless they hinted somehow in their posts. If a doctor successfully protected a scum target for example, maybe Cygnus got hit by the uh paranoid gun owner?.

Alternatively the simplest explanation is nothing happened, and Cygnus was just targeted anyway, to cause confusion because he was voted for yesterday....

Either way we're both closer and not to answers, but I generally agree that by the second day there has to be votes, even if we're wrong ://

Free makes a good point though that I don't think it would make sense for scum to kill someone they voted for... ]]
 

Sinderella

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[[A little over 9 hours until phase end! Sorry there was no 24-hour mark post. I was sick all day yesterday and am still a little under the weather. Bear with me!]]


Votes:
Not Voting: Starlight Aurate/Derek, tomatorade/Isaac, Panoramic_Vacuum/Phoebe, unrepentantAuthor/Sriracha, Chibi Pika/Stracion, Dragonfree/Jack, EonDuoLatios/Victoria, FauxFox/Spencer, HelloYellow17/Rui, ShiniGojira/Cygnus, Flyg0n/Anubis


Guzma raised his brows. "Really? Nothing so far?" He looked back and forth between some of the players before shrugging. "Whatevs. Not my game, I guess. Hope y'all know what you're doing!"

[[A reminder that you should be making a minimum of two (2) posts per phase! You will be receiving a nudge from me if you haven't yet met that minimum :) ]]
 

Sinderella

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  1. sylveon-shiny
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[[Per the rules, last minute vote trains will result in a 12 hour extension. Meaning if one player receives a leading bandwagon within the last hour of the day, the phase will be extended.]]
 

Chibi Pika

Stay positive
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Stracion had dozed off for most of the morning but then abruptly jolted awake. Right, there was a game, she probably oughta play.

Jack frowned as something occurred to him. "You know... yesterday I wasn't feeling great about Victoria, and the whole thing with trying to pin this on Stracion because she voted for Cygnus and the sudden philosophical shift from 'we should vote someone' to 'it's suspicious to have voted someone' really wasn't helping. But also, today she seems to have been totally unclear on how the mafia kill even functions. So unless she's galaxy-brain faking that, I guess she can't actually be mafia? I guess?"

"Ey, nice, I was thinkin' the same thing. I don't think it's an act, I think she's clean."

She leaned back in her seat. "Anywho, like Jack-o over here said, I don't think it's all that unlikely that there woulda been two kills, but one got stopped, leaving us with one. Don't have any guesses as the whether red-hat kid visited a gun owner, or if there's someone else in the game with a kill power or what, but I think someone else was probs the thugs' actual target."

"Sooooo I guess where I'm at is that I'm feeling pretty good about Jack--get the feeling he's good enough at this that he'd be hard to peg as a thug, but he seems clean for now. Anubis seems ok. Already said why I think Vicky's clean. Got nothin' on Derek and Rui. Sooooo that leaves Isaac, Spencer, Pheebs, and Sauce Sriracha--I'd be cool with voting any of them."
 

tomatorade

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  2. buizel
Isaac shrugged.

"Yeah, I dunno. This day's kind of going like the first one, it seems. Honestly, I have no concrete proof for anyone. Maybe some suspicion on Phoebe, but that's more on vibes than anything, obviously no proof yet. Derek and Spencer have kinda snuck under the radar, but that doesn't have to mean anything, either."

"I'm trying to run through all the roles in play, here. I agree there was probably an intervention of sorts rather than a complete lack of third-party killers--kinda wouldn't be role madness otherwise--so there's potential for some bulletproof roles, there's the paranoid gun owner..."

[[the wiki says they can also be uncommonly bulletproof? which implies that normally they also die if they're shot? I dunno, someone more seasoned in this can correct me if I'm wrong.]]

"...which others have pointed out, could have got Cygnus if he tried them at night. And since he was homie, he could've been doctor or watcher or something. There could also be a juggernaut or serial killer. Or he just got got by the mafia, and the third party got blocked instead."

Isaac scratched his temple, trying to work through the information.

"I guess if there was a gun owner, they'd still be on town and either praying the mafia got them instead of another town, or trying to signal to town without alerting the mafia. So I kinda think there may not be a gun owner then. Could be wrong--maybe they are just playing it quiet--but I guess now I'm leaning on a third-party killer getting Cygnus. Anyway, looks like everyone's kind of on the same page to wait for some of the less talkative and sleepier members to chime in before votes start flying."
 

Dragonfree

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Jack thought back to everything he remembered Cygnus saying yesterday, cross-referencing with a small notebook.

Huh. Alola was home to some weird-looking folks. Oh well. He shrugged. Not like they were gonna bother him.

"Say, since the game's just started. Any chance one of y'all will reveal yourself?" Cygnus said with a slurp of his juice. "But for real though, considering the fact that third parties are a possibility and the fact that there are 11 players here, I'd say there should be around 2 thuggies and 1 TP since that equates to about a quarter of the total or just 3 thugs if there's no third party... Either that or everyone here is secretly a thug and nobody knows it which I think would be pretty funny."

"Eh, it was just a guess really. I personally think it's more likely there'd one mafia and a third party but considering the possibility of what Jack said and how 'chaos' seems to be the goal of this game, it is highly possible that I'm wrong," he said, turning to the Blaziken hybrid. "'sides, wouldn't it be funny if everyone really was a thug? That'd make things truly chaotic if it was." [[Last bit is flavor post BTW, I don't actually think everyone is secretly scum or whatever]]

All of this was just a game either way, so it wasn't like Cygnus was in trouble if he lost for once. Though that didn't mean he'd like to lose in the first day because people was anxious to vote someone. "If there really is more than two or three different factions. I think it's safer if we vote no elimination, mostly because... well I'd do the math but I don't wanna bore people so I'll say this quick. Say we vote someone out, that leaves 10 left for the night. Now imagine if there's two mafias and a third party and each mafia faction has like two people, that would leave around maybe five or so homies after the vote and after the night, in the worst case scenario there could be probably three of four kills in one night (if my guess about the possible factions are correct), leaving I don't know 7 remaining (half of which could be mafia or TP)?.. Honestly, now that I said this out loud, I'm not sure if not voting would be a good thing. What do you folks think?"

[[Though I'm still voting No Elimination because I wanna see what will happen this night]]
"Hmm... Cygnus didn't say all that much yesterday, did he. But thinking about it, while we were thinking the preoccupation with the idea of a third party might have suggested he was mafia, for the mafia it might have instead made them assume that he was a third party? Even when I was talking about the possibility of two mafia teams, he sort of invisibly assumed two mafia teams and a third party, which is something you might do if you already know there's a third party in play. So I guess I can see a perceptive mafia member picking that up, figuring he's a third party, and wanting to get rid of him ASAP? So that's another possibility."

He flipped through the notebook some more. "Okay, so, I'm going to have to do a bit more thinking and cross-referencing, hang on."

[[Okay, I need to disappear for a couple hours right about now, but thoughts on reads and such coming after that. Time got away from me a bit this in-game day, apologies.]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
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  1. aggron
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Phoebe nodded along with what Jack and Isaac were saying. "So it sounds like we need to take a closer look at what people are assuming, and figure out if that comes from reading the role list, or from information in their own role."

Her brow furrowed in thought, her lip jutting out slightly from the effort. "Boy, that's hard to separate when we have so little to go on, mechanically I mean. We don't know what all happened last night other than one elimination, and like Isaac said, with so many roles it's hard to know how it went down."

"Maybe without other evidence, it's safer to assume the simplest explanation? Cygnus was a straight up elimination with no interference for one reason or another?" She then looked doubtful. "I don't know, though. Maybe it's naive to assume."

"But it's probably safe to assume that Cygnus was taken out by the bad guys. You would think if there was a Vigilante in the mix, they'd be feeling pretty bad right about now for making a mistake." She peered around the room, looking at everyone in turn, but lingering most on Stracion, then Victoria.

[[Flying pretty blind rn. Yesterday was a wash with irl stuff. Will make an effort to re-read posts looking for set up assumptions that might imply additional knowledge/someone having teammates to cross reference with. No promises though, not as adept at recognizing mechanical hints given my history in past games 😂 ]]
 

Flyg0n

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  9. porygon
"I suppose today is the day we'll have to vote someone and hope we can hit true," Anubis murmured, after some thought. "We can make a few speculations but there's never going to be a gurantee. We are fortunate the doctor either picked right or something else happened to prevent multiple kills, but who knows what tomorrow holds."

[[My mind is at just kind of vibe checking and picking someone. I don't want to pick anyone but it is day 2 and I guess mathematically its the best option to give us information for tomorrow?

I have been reviewing and I have no strong vibes.

Leaning towards being more certain of Chibi and free but free is also just Like That lol. Safe-ish vibes from Spencer? Shaky on pano and yellow? More shaky on tomatorade too... neutral on others for now.

Might review posts again]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
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Phoebe thought to herself again, but murmured what she was thinking out loud.

"If we do go on the assumption that it's only one hater team, did we ever do a number crunch on how many of them there'd be? It's a game of 11 players, what's a reasonable ratio of haters in that group? Two? Or maybe three?"
 

tomatorade

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"No, I don't think we've ever taken a stab at that. I mean, like Jack pointed out, Cygnus thought there were two mafia and a third party, but that was probably based on nothing. Or... whatever information Cygnus thought he had. There's gotta be at least two, I guess. But it might benefit us to assume there's three. At least so we don't get surprised."

[[Don't know what the regular ratio would be, I'd feel like definitely three for a twelve-person game, and we got a close eleven, so that's what I'm going off of. The wiki says 3-1 is a good ratio, which could mean either, but I have no clue if our devious overlord is following that lol.]]
 

Chibi Pika

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Stracion cracked her knuckles. "Aight, so, I'm having a thought... only the haters know for sure if they're the ones who targeted Cygnus, right? A gun owner wouldn't know. I guess a vig would, but eh, got my doubts there. Anyway, that means looking at who's assuming who got Cygnus could be something--"

That seemed like an odd choice. As far as he could tell, Cygnus didn't seem like a usual high-priority target.

He leaned back, waiting to hear both of their defenses before pressing further. But, whoever had eliminated Cygnus in the night would also have noticed the votes piling onto him. Maybe Cygnus was eliminated because it would be easy to frame those who had voted for him?
"Derek thinks it's odd to go for Cygnus, but still assumes the haters must've done it."

"If the thugs in this game wanted to get rid of someone, there's loads of reasons why they might choose them, right? Maybe they thought Cygnus wouldn't be protected, or that he would be investigated by a..." He checked his notes scribbled indecipherably on a paper napkin. "A Saggy Nanu? Huh. Anyway, you get it. I think I'd try and get rid of the smartest, loudest homies first, not the ones who look suspicious, but I can at least think of some reasons why they'd pick that Cygnus guy."
"'Racha mentions a couple reasons the haters might've gone for him, but mentions that he would've gone for a different strat. So, assuming haters."

That's why I think it's more likely than not that the Mafia were simply attempting to get rid of someone from the get-go via voting initially, and when that didn't work, they decided to go for the kill on that person, having served their purpose.
"Vicky thought the haters wanted to finish the job, already went over why that doesn't make much sense and also why she's probably a homie."

"The thugs could also be trying to frame either Stracion or Jack," Spencer offered. "Since they both voted for Cygnus, it would make them seem suspicious now that he has died. Now there is suspicion on two people who might or might not be homies, potentially creating a distraction for the thugs."

Spencer glanced around the room. "And while the thugs might only have one attack per night, this is a role madness game. We can't rule out the possibility of a third party attacking but getting roleblocked or hitting someone who got healed.
"Spencer thinks the haters were trying to frame me or Jack, but he's also the first to mention that the hater kill could've been blocked, so someone else could've been the culprit here."

He paused, rubbing his forehead. "So I guess there are a few possibilities for why Cygnus died. One is that the mafia thought they'd picked up something in what Cygnus said yesterday that made them think he might be a cop or something like that. So maybe we can think over what he said yesterday, although I at least didn't pick up anything like that. Another is that whoever's in the mafia just wasn't thinking along those lines at all - like, maybe they haven't played the game that much, or they usually play with different setups or environments where the mafia do like to kill people who are under suspicion for some reason. Another's that this wasn't the mafia at all, I guess - maybe there's a vigilante who agreed with us, or Stracion herself is the vigilante, and they figured since Cygnus escaped elimination they'd go for them in the night instead, or maybe Cygnus targeted a paranoid gun owner. But then something else would've needed to have happened to the mafia's kill. Maybe a lucky doctor or a roleblocker? Or they targeted someone bulletproof or a Hider?"
"Jack goes over pretty much every option. After this point everyone's seen every theory so it's hard to look at what they're assuming is true."

I don’t think Cygnus died by a paranoid gun owner…because we’d probably have more than one casualty in that case, right? Unless somebody got protected last night, which is a possibility…hm. In any case, the fact that only one person died last night makes me thing maybe there isn’t a third party, after all. At least, not the kind that can shoot people.”
"Rui isn't too committed either way, but probs no TP, so that mean she's prob'ly assuming the haters did it?"

"But maybe that's why poor Cygnus was targeted. If the thugs thought everyone's attention would be elsewhere, they'd know they could get a free kill."
"Phobe thinks Cygnus mighta been targeted because he'd be unprotected. Later, Rui agrees with her."

We are fortunate the doctor either picked right or something else happened to prevent multiple kills, but who knows what tomorrow holds."
"Anubis mentioned a couple options, isn't really leaning toward any of 'em, but thinks there's probably multiple killers."

Stracion popped the tab on a soda and chugged half of it. "Anyway, uh... forgot where I was going with this. Dunno if a hater would prefer we think they did it, or think someone else did it. Fewer lies is safer, and so's looking helpful."
 

Starlight Aurate

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Derek listened to all of the speculation going on, tapping his chin thoughtfully.

[[Agh I really gotta run to work and I don't have know that I'll have time to give thorough reads before EOD. For now, Free is reading safe to me (but she always does so hngggg). I'm feeling a bit shaky on tomatorade and Chibi for some reason? Even though others feel safe about them, idk.

I'm... tempted to vote for tomatorade before EOD. Agh but I don't have time to go through everyone's posts right now and might not before EOD, and I Don't want to just randomly vote in the air but also don't want to Not Vote >_< ]]
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
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  2. lairon
"Hmmmmmm," Phoebe hummed, singsong. "Maybe we should be looking to see if there's any pairs of players who are a little too on the same page. Or trios. Or, and this is probably complicating things, two pairs of pairs if maybe there's two sets of haters who are hating separately from each other."

Phoebe turned and called out to their host. "Hey Mister Guzma, Does Team Skull have a lot of haters?"

"Either way, lemme go over examples of pairs of players who might be collaborating a bit too much given how little we know. Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't"

[[Possible scumpair read lists based on 90% vibes, 10% maybe there's something in the posts/Pano's attempt at picking up hints:]]
Stracion + JackObvious duo based on Cygnus voting as a bus and later nightkill, but this seems way too obvious/poor play as a duo to implicate both of them right out of the gate. Interesting to pick Cygnus as a poke-vote day 1, and then jump on that as a possible bandwagon. Equally likely to be town though b/c we had no info Day 1.
Stracion + SrirachaInteresting exchange the first day in talking about dangerous role we'd need to consider (specifically paranoid gun owner), but did not get mentioned in any analysis/suspicion of players who brought up dangerous roles, which seemed odd to leave this out. Stracion specifically was one to mention it was weird to call out dangerous roles b/c "we'd all have to contend with them", which is probably trying to imply those who brought up TP/dangerous roles as blowing smoke, yet they also did the same so ?? Both of them also were the first day poke-votes, but that might not mean much. Also weird that they both had considered Cygnus but Sriracha specifically points out he *wouldn't* vote for him because Stracion did already. Too obvious of a bus if that was the case? Or just townies poking in different directions and not wanting to cast a vote train on little info? Also a weird, not very helpful player list that didn't even have all the players on it. Trying to look helpful without actually being helpful? Do tables make people look sus? Uh oh????
Anubis + SpencerNow this might be a bit of a weird one to see on the list, but hear me out. Both Anubis and Spencer seem to be backing each other up throughout Day 1 and into Day 2. Spencer defended the poke-vote on Anubis while Anubis seemed rather unphased himself (mentioned he could vote back at Sriracha but didn't, and then mentioned Cygnus felt odd too and didn't vote there either? Scum being hesitant to be seen as piling on a vote for a townie too eagerly? Also back to back no-elimination votes backing each other up.) The other thing is they both specifically mentioned Cygnus's elimination being a Third Party, and not possibly a mafia kill. On its own this seems fine, but both are so adamant that it's *not* the mafia kill that it makes me suspicious that they must know it's not because they themselves targeted someone else last night, and that person wasn't eliminated. Is it a reach? Probably. Does it still ping me as odd when we know nothing concrete about the set up? You bet.
Victoria + Jack
Probably insanely unlikely, and would be a ridiculous galaxybrain play to pretend to not know the rules and then clear the other's name by pointing that out. Didn't like the vote train on me by Victoria based on RP, not mechanical play. Jack also mentioned they didn't like my vibes but was reluctant to vote. Fair, but again, is this a mafia team not wanting to create a vote train so early? Or just two townies not knowing what's what (like the rest of us helpppp)? This is probably the most unlikely pair, but I did make a table with four rows and darn it I'm gonna fill it.

I know it could look like Rui and I are collaborating, given our interaction, and her also defending a vote on me like Spencer did for Anubis, but I know we're not working together, so I'm not going to include that in my read list but happy to defend her or myself.

Maybe a pair between Isaac and myself could be likely, b/c I do tend to agree with him a lot. But I think that's because we have a lot of similarities on how we think. It's natural for town to want info because they start with none, vs scumteam who knows they have a friend. It's dangerous though, because then whatever town learns, scum learns too... I always struggle with knowing whether to press for players to share info or not :/

Seems to be acting alone, so probably Homie? (or sneaky TP?????) :
Victoria
Isaac
Rui
Derek

Phoebe hummed again. "We definitely need to vote someone out today, and it stinks we don't have more to go on. In the spirit of the game, though, I'm gonna vote someone. So I pick Anubis. Yesterday you didn't seem to bothered by a vote. But today's a different story. Curious why you think it was a third party kill and not the mafia team? Or, now that we're in Day 2, who would you vote for? You seem to be hesitant to throw out a name even though you know we have to vote someone today."
 

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[[I'm hesitant to throw out names because I haven't been paying as much attention as I should and I hate to vote wrong. I can't really say why I still speculate about a TP kill/vigilante/paranoid gun owner but I just think something could have happened in a game like this, since its role madness.

That said its getting close to decision time...

Vote: Tomatorade

I am sorry, this one is nothing but vibes right now]]

"It would be... very bad to vote for me, but I suppose I cannot give a defense without trying to claim my role in all this..." Anubis murmured. "But that exposes me to the scum, which is also quite unfortunate."

[[Side note, it felt like Jackie may have been soft claiming paranoid gun owner yesterday maybe? i've had a lot of things to tend to today but the way they spoke about it yesterday caught my eye.

I still speculate that more than we expect could have happened last night.]]
 
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