Fwiw
@HelloYellow17 I want to assure that even with the consideration of how votes work its not all bad. You did fine and there's not much to do given the situation. For now I see where Free was coming from in her vote and I think the logic lines up because it
wasn't galaxy brained. The situation actually did give us intel too. So you did fine < 3. Even with the risk of how votes work I think we can still do something.
I saw Free answered some of the queries so I hope that helped. If it helps my reasoning for starting/joining the vote for you was because as fr as I could reason that day there was at first only a 33% chance of you being scum, but after realizing this was standard play as Free said, I felt that even if you
were drunk the info we'd get from voting you out meant we'd get
something. You had already shared intel and wether that was drunk, poisoned or fake intel, it was safer and had at least a partial chance of hitting scum. We wouldn't be accidentally hitting a power role!
Sadly in hindsight right now it
sounds like you
were drunk and Aer
thought they could be drunk/poisoned but it makes at least some sense for Town!Aer to doubt themselves.
((Uhm can a Drunk activate Virgin???))
As an aside
@Zdrmonster you did great, honestly it was a wild play but hindsight is clarity and also it gained a ton of vluable intel and got things moving, it was fun! Things always go wild in these games < 3
Let's see we have.
Three claims. Aer, Phan & Chibi.
I will break here to note that I just read Pano's posts halfway through writing my own. It really is sucky timing that I couldn't be around more. Basically didn't even get home until an hour or two ago and then am trying to reread all the posts. I see your logic though, its a good angle, even though I think we have to be careful about face value.
First off - do we have Spy? My verdict is...
maybe. Because while it is technically reasonable to conclude that the lack of nightkill means a lack of spy, it seems worth at least keeping in the back pocket that if they
did have a spy, wouldn't they try to control the game by not nightkilling? Make us think they don't have one?? My takeaway is we shouldn't be too hasty to gurantee anything in a game with Poison
and Drunk.
Onto the claims I guess.
Aer claims Empath. (N0: Rui/Hareta both innocent; N1: Madeline/Hareta (1)) I've been pingponging like crazy ever since. Was Rui poisoned by sheer luck and Aer correct? Aer poisoned and Rui drunk? In both these scenarios we have to be careful to fully trust Aer. I'm leaning town because the logic seems to add up for me. But I don't know I trust info. We know for a fact There's a drunk. There's too much conflicting intel and the only gurantee we really have is probably Wind (afaik) and Sind.
Let's think about scum!aer for a second. Scum have fake claims so there's a chance as with any town hardclaim that its fake. And it would be both terrifying and powerful to control the game by using empath powers! Also conveniently easy to claim day 2 and essentially pick whoever. Frankly my immediate jump was to sus like perse beause its just so easy of claim imo, much the way I leaned it being easy for Rui to fakeclaim investigator.
But Aer voted Rui and that seems a silly scumplay (I dont mean you're stupid, sorry aer, just that its not got any reason unless you dont know who is drunk, otherwise you don't need to join a train? I believe that well enough.
Phantumps claims clairvoyant, claims Perse is the demon. Because at first I was entirely skeptical, if scumteam did have that in their fakeclaims, they could have plotted to insinuate anything given they have the priviledged info and would know there's no clairvoyants. they could boldly say almost anything they want. And since there's no role reveal upon death we wouldn't know that they 'picked wrong'. I mean it would be good scumplay to hint a little (after all a scum doesnt fear death) and then claim? . And the whole bit about 'testing' their reads to see if they weren't drunk. I mean add some uncertinty and frinedly testing and bam! townie.
I did end up rereading D0 though and it doesn't feel like scum theatre (but then again good scum theatre doesn't). But I find that under scrutiny, its too bold. I think what makes it feel most plausible is the consistency and the target; I guess I don't see this kind of elaborate thing to come up? It would be ...risky?
The other option is that Phan was poisoned? On the tiny obscure chance Phan was poisoned on either night (instead of Rui, this assumes Rui is Drunk and not flailing minion or Poisoned) its hard to say. If Scum picked up on any hints it would make sense to target a perceived power role like Aer or Phan?
Chibi claims undertaker. Chibi says Rui is innocent. What bugs me here is we don't actually know that this clears Rui if Chibi was poisoned? But obviously only two out of all the results we got were poisoned. If Chibi is poisoned here, it means that at the very least, the Rui bit is bad intel and Phant and Aer are correct, assuming that isn't some S+ tier scum theatre between the two of them (we're ultracooked if we don't have a real a Empath or Clairvoyant what the frick).
But if Chibi did see truthfully this does clear up the whole kerfuffle and explain all the confusion as just genuine confusion not anyone playing anything. Town!Chibi lines up with trying to play it cool day 1 to survive long enough to use a power. But then... scum chibi could just as easily play the same? I mean I think historically scum chibi is very secretive or smth...
Fourth claim is
Slayer Perse. Look we can't all be telling the truth augh. This one rings weakest to me? We have to always acknowledge the possibility its either town or scum fakeclaim. What I dont like about this is that it felt hasty and improperly thought. Too easy, since you would want to pretend to spend it, but Phan just doesn't seem like a good target if you're town? There was too much hard town. On the other hand if Perse is Town this absolves Phan.
However, I feel decently sure of Phan being town even if not the intel. "Pretending" to Slay someone would be a good scumplay maybe from scrambling scum after being confidently outed, whereas for townplay its a little harder to buy?
