"Huh. Didn't really think of it like that... Either way, yeah, I guess it's our job to make sure the 'Mafia' don't get to us." She paused for a while. "Oh! Uh, I don't think I told you my name yet-- it's Chappie. So, uh, nice to officially meet you."
"Name's Rascal," she growled. "You two at least seem sensible."
Lusamine sneered at the Mewtwo. "You don't know me. There's exactly one Mewtwo I know of in my world, and they currently serve the Kantonian Mafia. If you want to claim to be that Mewtwo, then my suggestion for who a more likely Mafia member would be the one with a history of Mafia work."If the human had a reason why she shouldn't be lynched, she should give it. Or else find another more likely candidate.
Mewtwo knew that humans were no more likely to be against him, but--he eyed Lusamine.
Lusamine regarded the Pokemon like animals, like lab rats or trained pets.
Nope, it's no problem. After all, if Wes hadn't brought a knife, he could have made one out of the malleable ground-stuff anyhow![Question, am I breaking any rules by allowing Wes to have his weapon with him? I can certainly get rid of it if that's the case!]
Also there's other possibilities. Actually, I think "psychic marks" could be a broad descriptor that could apply to many characters if you're willing to be creative. Like, Ghosts like Altair could do Psychic stuff, maybe. And idk Fusion or Miyako--not familiar with lore.
He cleared his throat and spoke up. "Look, I get you're all nervous, but blindly accusing someone without evidence is stupid as hell."
[Question, am I breaking any rules by allowing Wes to have his weapon with him? I can certainly get rid of it if that's the case!]
Rascal glanced at the weird Delphox everyone seemed to want to accuse. Then she smirked maliciously. "I bet its whoever accused someone first. Probably that Mewtwo or whatever, or that guy who accused the fox."
He cleared his throat and spoke up. "Look, I get you're all nervous, but blindly accusing someone without evidence is stupid as hell."
"That's all well and good," Kyros grumbled, prowling towards the center of the group. His voice was slightly muffled by a pamphlet, which he sat down. "But this isn't as black and white as that. The fact is, there are killers among us. And in all likelyhood, we got lucky. So instead of offering plattitudes about how it's bad and suspicious to throw accusations, we should be pooling our knowledge together, to make an educated guess.""Oh, yeah! That's what I've been saying. If anything, it just makes the accuser seem really suspicious, right? I mean, you'd figure anyone who just throws accusations out there only wants to get rid of everyone else, and obviously, that's the goal of the, uh... what are they called, the Mafia? Something like that..."
"So instead of offering plattitudes about how it's bad and suspicious to throw accusations, we should be pooling our knowledge together, to make an educated guess."
He paused, glancing down at the paper. "Besides, even if we as a majority decide not to lynch, there's information to be gleamed by putting pressure on people. Don't you agree, uhhh.... Lexx, was it?"
But there's not really anything scummy about putting pressure on players by voting for them, especially if they're not contributing much to the discussion. And in fact, it's worth mentioning that in both the 1st anniversary mafia, and the fall 2020 mafia, the mafia started off their strategy by trying to convince the town to lynch no one D1. (Whether the mafia would be bold enough to try that tactic a third time is debatable, but it's worth mentioning.) It can be a valid town strategy, yes. But putting pressure on other players to contribute by voting for them, even on D1, isn't necessarily a scum move.
I'm happy to discuss this more, if you'd like, but later. For now, I'll be brainstorming and trying to make another post before bed to try and start pooling together what little knowledge we do have from the lack of kill.]]
[[ That all said, I do appreciate that someone else is considering the "did we really just get a second game in a row without a N-0 death out of pure luck?" angle. While I get that the idea of a possible arsonist is definitely not something we should be ignoring, it's been also bothering me that everyone's so focused on the accusations and role-claiming that no one else is really discussing the lack of a death tonight. That's... pretty significant, I feel, but probably just due to my lack of experience, I have no real guess as to why that might be short of a similar situation to last game; they shot blind and got blocked. Either that, or they purposely didn't attempt a kill to throw us off. ]]
Lexx tilted his head with a bit of a crooked grin. "Suppose I can't argue with that, yeah. But I think it's worth pointing out that--if I'm reading these logs correctly--it was the innocent players who pushed the hardest for not voting anyone on the first day in that game. To the point that one of them got targeted at night by one of his own teammates as punishment." Experiment Number Nine had been in one of these games--now that sure was something.He paused, glancing down at the paper. "Besides, even if we as a majority decide not to lynch, there's information to be gleamed by putting pressure on people. Don't you agree, uhhh.... Lexx, was it?"
"We're gonna need that extra time if we want to find that arsonist."
"Yes, I see nothing that specifies that an arsonist has to be a third party, and in fact these notes imply that one could be any alignment. I'm not sure how a mafia-arsonist is any better for us, really, and in fact I would say this would be a significantly bigger threat since they know who they can safely target... but an innocent-arsonist (that sounds so weird) would be very hard to pull off without taking out at least one other innocent, wouldn't it? Unless they don't start marking anyone until they're sure, but then they're several nights behind the game.... I imagine, once a target is marked, they can't be un-marked by the one who marked them (meaning the arsonist themselves... or can they? Hm...)."Hmmmmm." The Hydreigon of the group drifted left and right. "I don't know if that will be very easy. Unless I am mistaken, it seems that there is sometimes a chance that such a person could be, what is this, town-aligned. Is that possible here? If so, it may not be easy to see them by brute-force. They would read as innocent."
[[Not feeling good so only replying to this rn and thoughts might be a little jumbled. But when I brought up the not contributing issue, I meant that it was one of the reasons people might choose to put pressure on people by voting on them. Not that the votes thus far were due to lack of contribution. And I get where youre coming from. My work day keeps me busy during prime discussion hours, (running from ~6pm-4am utc), so it's something I have to worry about.]]It hasn't been that long, and already we're going towards the "not contributing to the discussion" angle? Ngl, this whole argument really bothers me, personally. Like, I get it, it's still totally valid to be suspicious of someone for a lack of posting, regardless of the reasoning they've given (or not given). My own personal consideration aside (as I am unsure of how active I can be due to work IRL, and I don't very well like the idea of coming under fire and then having to read 8 hours worth of accusations to defend myself on all at once), the game is, at the time of writing, only 7 hours old. Are we really going to start accusing people of not contributing already? Based on that logic, Lance/Navarchu, for example, is just as suspicious due to not having posted once since D-1 began, and that's just... a silly assumption to me.
"Oh, yeah! That's what I've been saying. If anything, it just makes the accuser seem really suspicious, right? I mean, you'd figure anyone who just throws accusations out there only wants to get rid of everyone else, and obviously, that's the goal of the, uh... what are they called, the Mafia? Something like that..."
Wes nearly jumped at the Luxio's voice. Hearing Pokemon talk to him was going to take some getting used to, apparently. He blinked down at--huh. He'd forgotten their name.
"It could be they want to get rid of everyone else...or they just want to stir up trouble and turn us against each other," he growled darkly. He narrowed his eyes at the other group members. "After all, for some people, it doesn't matter who dies as long as they get to live." Too many years at Snagem had taught him that much.
"Putting pressure on people, sure, but why so randomly?" Miyako asked, overhearing. "There's been two very sudden developments almost right out of the gate. Does that not strike you as odd, in a game all about secrecy and deception? I... kind of suspect that Mewtwo might have a reason for his sudden vote, but is hesitant to share what that is, for obvious reasons. But on the other hand, it could just be to stir up chaos. He changed his vote just as suddenly as he cast his first one. To me, that just screams chaos, and chaos is the last thing innocents want."
Jesse's Character Tracker | Alexander | Hydreigon | he/him | Namohysip | Altair | Yamask | he/him | Inkedust | Arctozolt | they/them plural | IFBench | Chappie | Luxio | she/her | AbraPunk |
Dave | Human | he/him | Dragonfree | Fusion | Frieza-Race | he/him | Fusion Absent for Day 1. | Jesse | Red Delphox |he/him | unrepentantAuthor | Kyros | Litten | he/him | windskull | Lance | Lucario | he/him | Navarchu |
Lexx | Human | he/him | Chibi Pika | Lusamine | Human | she/her | Shiny Phantump | Mewtwo | they/them | Equitial | Miyako | Human | she/her | Seren | Namco | Lugia | she/her | Mellow |
Nefari | Nickit | F | DawningWinds | Rascal | Tyrunt | she/her | Flyg0n | Tefiren | Archopy | he/him | elyvorg | Spark | Dedenne | she/her | DeliriousAbsol | Wes | Human | he/him | HelloYellow17 |
Voters | Target |
Mewtwo | Miyako |
Nefari, | Jesse |
Kyros | Lexx |
Lusamine | |
Alexander, Arctozolt, Rascal, Altair, Chappie, Wes, Jesse | Nobody |
"Are we seriously going to KILL someone without any reason?"
Lusamine sneered at the Mewtwo. "You don't know me. There's exactly one Mewtwo I know of in my world, and they currently serve the Kantonian Mafia. If you want to claim to be that Mewtwo, then my suggestion for who a more likely Mafia member would be the one with a history of Mafia work."
[[That's just in-character, I'm not accusing Equital OOC]]
"And most pokemon, where I come from, aren't sapient and don't speak. If Aether expected the same level of medical consent from nonsapient patients as we would expect from humans, then entire species would've died out because they're not capable of giving it. Would you rather I just let them all die?"
Jesse's Character Tracker | Alexander | Hydreigon | he/him | Namohysip Nobody | Altair | Yamask | he/him | Inkedust Nobody | Arctozolt | they/them plural | IFBench Nobody | Chappie | Luxio | she/her | AbraPunk Nobody |
Dave | Human | he/him | Dragonfree | Fusion | Frieza-Race | he/him | Fusion Absent for Day 1. | Jesse | Red Delphox |he/him | unrepentantAuthor Nobody | Kyros | Litten | he/him | windskull Lexx | Lance | Lucario | he/him | Navarchu |
Lexx | Human | he/him | Chibi Pika | Lusamine | Human | she/her | Shiny Phantump | Mewtwo | they/them | Equitial | Miyako | Human | she/her | Seren | Namco | Lugia | she/her | Mellow |
Nefari | Nickit | F | DawningWinds Jesse | Rascal | Tyrunt | she/her | Flyg0n Nobody | Tefiren | Archopy | he/him | elyvorg | Spark | Dedenne | she/her | DeliriousAbsol | Wes | Human | he/him | HelloYellow17 Nobody |