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[COMPLETE] Humble Vale Mafia

HelloYellow17

Gym Leader
Pronouns
She/Her
Partners
  1. suicune
  2. umbreon
  3. mew
  4. lycanroc-wes
  5. leafeon-rui
Scum could know the message would get deciphered anyone once people figured out that it was morse. I figure doing it for town cred isn't unrealistic, so...
Frankly I can't think of a whole lot of time delayed roles either, except the ones in the second anni game, where scum did have one. But I'm prolly not thinking outside the box enough because my role leaves me with no clue what to expect from other roles this game anyhow.
[[Town had some time-delayed roles, too! I was a doc, but couldn’t heal anyone until N2.]]
 

Equitial

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
he/him
Partners
  1. espurr
  2. inkay
  3. woobat
  4. ralts

DawningWinds

Ace Trainer
Partners
  1. hawlucha
Can confirm I am not Inke's buddy. Am safe to vote.
Though on the topic of bulletproofs someone mentioned there being a lot of bulletproofs and my buddy gives me a bulletproof shot (shared between any other buddies we have, idk if my current buddy can use though), so that's one more. (Again, the shot is shared, once it's used once it's gone for us all.) So uh, yeah, lot of bulletproof.

[[Town had some time-delayed roles, too! I was a doc, but couldn’t heal anyone until N2.]]
I know. I was a firefighter/rolestopper who couldn't do anything until like the last night of the game.

Technically we can only take you at your word
Inke will probably back me up on the fact that I'm not their buddy.
 

kyeugh

you gotta feel your lines
Staff
Pronouns
she/her
Partners
  1. farfetchd-galar
  2. gfetchd-kyeugh
  3. onion-san
  4. farfetchd
  5. farfetchd
here’s my feelings on dw. i think people are taking away the wrong things from their play. i don’t think it’s scummy in the slightest that they’re placing pressure votes willy-nilly. it’s not as dangerous as people are fluffing it up to me. it’s just a different strategy of town play. in other communities (and i suspect dw plays a lot elsewhere) it’s normal. i’m not going to shade anyone for being put off by it because it is weird and different and pretty aggressive. but i don’t think it’s alignment indicative.

what i don’t like, and i said this before but i don’t believe dw has anything to say about it, is that this is pretty much all they’re doing. placing the vote by itself doesn’t really… do anything. as i said before, it’s a tool to produce pressure, to provide an extra edge as you question and draw information out of people. and—maybe i’m just not paying close enough attention, but i don’t feel dw is doing that. votes don’t draw information out of people, questions and interaction do. there hasn’t been much of that, mostly just “well i think this is the best place for my vote” and other such defense. that doesn’t feel solvey to me. in the best case it’s unhelpful and lethargic. in the worst case it’s throwing votes around to see what sticks.

i’m not really sure what else to take away from dw’s play but this. it feels like it’s just been placing pressure votes, not actually using them, and then defending their right to do that. that’s not very productive… but it’s not really productive for anyone, mafia included. that’s why i’m hesitant to let my bafflement bleed over into suspicion. yeah, it’s weird, but is it really scummy? i don’t know. i think mostly it’s just nothing.

that said, i don’t oppose a dw elimination. i think my vote of choice right now is equi because i’m just repeatedly getting bad vibes, but i don’t think we’re getting there today. i’ll see how the rest of the day plays out and make up my mind at eod, i guess. it’s also feeling like it might be wise to abstain, so i’m going to do that for now in case i’m distracted until eod.
 

Panoramic_Vacuum

Hoenn around
Partners
  1. aggron
  2. lairon
Mademoiselle tilted her head, sounding genuinely confused. "I already told you that that protection came from myself, not my partner. If my partner was a so-called 'alien' who was activated why would I be trying to lynch them, especially if I have reason to trust them?"

[[Really just process of elimination at this point. It's not a strong ground to stand on but it's something for now. I know it sounds dumb for me to be all like "we shouldn't abstain today" only for others to ask me "who and why" only for me to fall back on PoE, however, with how strong some players were coming off today (+mechanical evidence) it doesn't feel as risky as it otherwise would.]]
Steven nodded. "Ah, that's a valid point about who gave who the protection. I had forgotten that detail of your account."
 

Bluwiikoon

waow!
Location
Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
Pronouns
He/him
Partners
  1. nosepass-bluwiikoon

unrepentantAuthor

A cat that writes stories.
Location
UK
Pronouns
they/she
Partners
  1. purrloin-salem
  2. sneasel-dusk
  3. luz-companion
  4. brisa-companion
  5. meowth-laura
  6. delphox-jesse
  7. mewtwo
  8. zeraora
[[Reorganised and amended readlist.]]

Hard Town
uA/Salem
Pano/Steven
Inke/Mlle
Tetra/Possum

Soft Town
Yellow/Rui
Bench/Gen

Null
Fuse/Kora
Sind/Guzma
Kyeugh/AZ

Cautious/Mixed
Abra/Palkia

Suspicious
DW/DW
Equi/Amy

[[Something to add: Inke and her buddy already had an extended OS bulletproof power. How many of those can there be belonging to town/town buddies? It'd be really hard for the mafia if half the systems they didn't belong to had OSBP shielding. I wouldn't be surprised if DW was telling the truth about their OSBP, but that they (or their buddy) was antitown.]]
 

Equitial

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
he/him
Partners
  1. espurr
  2. inkay
  3. woobat
  4. ralts
Bless: pano/steven
 

Bluwiikoon

waow!
Location
Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
Pronouns
He/him
Partners
  1. nosepass-bluwiikoon

Equitial

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
he/him
Partners
  1. espurr
  2. inkay
  3. woobat
  4. ralts
Bless: you
 

HelloYellow17

Gym Leader
Pronouns
She/Her
Partners
  1. suicune
  2. umbreon
  3. mew
  4. lycanroc-wes
  5. leafeon-rui

HelloYellow17

Gym Leader
Pronouns
She/Her
Partners
  1. suicune
  2. umbreon
  3. mew
  4. lycanroc-wes
  5. leafeon-rui
[[oh nvm LOL]]
 

Bluwiikoon

waow!
Location
Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
Pronouns
He/him
Partners
  1. nosepass-bluwiikoon

kyeugh

you gotta feel your lines
Staff
Pronouns
she/her
Partners
  1. farfetchd-galar
  2. gfetchd-kyeugh
  3. onion-san
  4. farfetchd
  5. farfetchd
i blessed myself!
[[Reorganised and amended readlist.]]



[[Something to add: Inke and her buddy already had an extended OS bulletproof power. How many of those can there be belonging to town/town buddies? It'd be really hard for the mafia if half the systems they didn't belong to had OSBP shielding. I wouldn't be surprised if DW was telling the truth about their OSBP, but that they (or their buddy) was antitown.]]
care to expand on your salem read?

all the bulletproof does seem like a lot but perhaps not if there really are two shots per night.
 

DawningWinds

Ace Trainer
Partners
  1. hawlucha
[[Something to add: Inke and her buddy already had an extended OS bulletproof power. How many of those can there be belonging to town/town buddies? It'd be really hard for the mafia if half the systems they didn't belong to had OSBP shielding. I wouldn't be surprised if DW was telling the truth about their OSBP, but that they (or their buddy) was antitown.]]
That makes sense. Hadn't thought of that.

Maybe both buddy systems that've claimed shared BP should out the second buddy? Idk if this is the best play, but I think it'd be a fair way to try and define our pool for today.

unvote: ua
Feeling better about your logic now last couple posts. And q made a good point about my vote not actually being all that effective anyhow.
 

HelloYellow17

Gym Leader
Pronouns
She/Her
Partners
  1. suicune
  2. umbreon
  3. mew
  4. lycanroc-wes
  5. leafeon-rui
[[Hnnnnnngh only 15 minutes left and I still have no idea what to do. Kyeugh made a lot of good points about DW and that it’s totally possible she’s not scum and is just kind of misplaying as town…and her saying she is “safe to vote” doesn’t strike me as something scum would say. I don’t KNOWWW.]]
 

Equitial

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
he/him
Partners
  1. espurr
  2. inkay
  3. woobat
  4. ralts
Maybe both buddy systems that've claimed shared BP should out the second buddy? Idk if this is the best play, but I think it'd be a fair way to try and define our pool for today.

Nooooooo
 

HelloYellow17

Gym Leader
Pronouns
She/Her
Partners
  1. suicune
  2. umbreon
  3. mew
  4. lycanroc-wes
  5. leafeon-rui
Maybe both buddy systems that've claimed shared BP should out the second buddy? Idk if this is the best play, but I think it'd be a fair way to try and define our pool for today.
[[Wait what. How is this a good idea]]
 

Bluwiikoon

waow!
Location
Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
Pronouns
He/him
Partners
  1. nosepass-bluwiikoon
"by the way... since we extended the day, you all still need to write letters to my brother, as we agreed," said sans, winking. "he would really like that."
 
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