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Pokémon Groundhog Dave [Morphic spin-off timeloop whump AU]

Part I

Dragonfree

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Staff
Location
Iceland
Pronouns
she/her/hers
Partners
  1. butterfree
  2. mightyena
  3. charizard
  4. scyther-mia
  5. vulpix
  6. slugma
Welcome to the one-shot three-shot I have been working on since I happened to see someone else writing a fic with this silly pun name while hyperfixating on Groundhog Day the musical in 2017. It's been a long time coming.

This story is based on my 2007-2010 Pokémorph fanfic Morphic. More specifically, it contains major spoilers for how it ends, so make sure you're at peace with that if you're going to read this, and it's written assuming you're already familiar with the original sequence of events, though it shouldn't be impossible to understand the gist of what's going on (or at least what matters about it) from the context. It is, ultimately, a whump fic: the purpose of writing it was to put a character (Dave, of course) through the wringer more than anything else, but along the way, it's also a general character study, a series of hypotheticals and situations, and does feature some fun bits of the fic's other characters as well, to varying extents. Its nature does mean that it prioritizes the character study and whump situations over plot coherence a bit; there are some fridge logic moments here that I'm basically just willing to handwave because it's not really the point.

The story has already been completed, but will be posted in three parts when I get the chance over the next week or two. The splits are thematic - each of the parts has a bit of a different vibe from the others, though it’s one continuous storyline.

Feedback preferences: Anything goes, though like I said, this probably isn't a story where you ought to be overthinking the plot. Tell me if something's really distracting you, but no need to try to pick nits. I'm just here to have fun tormenting Dave.

This story features some strong violence including gun violence, suicide and suicidal thoughts, brief vomiting, a deluge of strong and demeaning language, consumption of alcohol, heavy emotional distress, existential horror, and a whole lot of children dying.


Part I

“Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”

He stirred, elbowing Martha’s hands away. “Yeah,” he mumbled. “Okay.”

Dave clutched his head in his hands for a few seconds as his brain throbbed. Maybe he shouldn’t have drunk quite this much last night. Not that he was sure exactly how much it’d been; most of the evening was, thankfully, a murky cloud by now.

He rubbed his eyes before opening them, wincing as he blinked. The morning sunlight made its way mercilessly past even the firmly drawn curtains, casting cruel strips of blinding light on the white walls. Fuck the sun.

He took a deep breath or two and then pushed himself up from the couch. The others were already up and waiting, their faces pale and exhausted. Cheryl didn’t look entirely like she’d gotten any sleep at all, bags under her eyes, her hair a tangled mess.

She leaned against the door to the girls’ room and gave it a careful knock. “Kids? Are you awake?”

Silence. So somehow the kids were sleeping just fine. Good for them.

She glanced back at everyone and gently opened the door. Then, as she stepped inside, she suddenly froze, staring. He automatically leaned over to look over her shoulder and –

Empty sleeping bags lay strewn across the floor in disorderly piles. By the window stood Lucy, alone, turning around to look at them, tilting her head innocently. Dave blinked. What?

Cheryl pushed the door all the way open in alarm. The room was empty, nobody else there. “Lucy?” she asked, wary. “Where are the others?”

“They left,” Lucy said simply, looking back out the window. “They’re going to save Gabriel.”

Dave stared at her. “What?” Cheryl looked back at the others in horror, silent. “Fuck. What?”

“They took Dan and Martha’s car.”

What?

Fuck.” Dave dug into his pocket for his cellphone. “Hold on, I’ll call Jean. Talk some fucking sense into them. What the fuck.”

-------

Mia was dead. So was Will. Gabriel was in critical condition at the hospital. Jack and Peter and Katherine had all been shot. Hell, they’d killed the fucking dog.

Jean was okay, aside from the burns on the inside of her mouth and looking like she’d been struck by a furry whirlwind. Lucy was okay, aside from being mute and staring into space like a shellshocked war veteran. That was something. Jean, exhausted after crying for hours, fell asleep at the Kerrigans’ house, and he took her home and put her into bed and then tossed the gun into a drawer and sat by her bedside for a while, squeezing the armrests of a hastily-moved chair, watching her alien new form breathing contentedly and somehow loathing it with every fiber of his being.

Eventually exhaustion got the better of him. After he woke with a start some time later and nearly toppled the chair over, he dragged himself over to his bedroom. It was almost too early for bed, really, but he just wanted this fucking day to end. Maybe, hopefully, tomorrow he could actually think.

-------

He awoke again to hands shaking him. “Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”

“Huh?” His brain was still the same sludge as the day before. Martha? What was she doing here? “What are you talking about?”

“Gabriel, the kidnapping. Wake up.”

“That was… that was yesterday,” he mumbled.

“And they’re probably still worried sick. Aren’t you?” She pulled his arm to drag him out of – no, he wasn’t in his bed, he was on the couch at the Kerrigans’ place. He blinked rapidly. A dream. It had all just been some fucked-up crazy dream.

Christ. He took a deep breath, rubbing the sleep out of his eyes as Martha let go of him. “Jesus,” he muttered.

He stood up, inhaling and exhaling again, letting it all just fade into the haze of last night. Probably, hopefully, by lunchtime he wouldn’t even remember he’d dreamt anything. In the corner of the room, Cheryl nodded at him, leaning on the door to the girls’ room.

“Kids? Are you awake?”

Nothing. Dave shifted, glancing towards the windows, the drawn curtains, the light just squeezing past the edges. A strange unease crept slowly up his back, his pulse uncomfortably thick in his ears.

Lucy by the window. A pile of empty sleeping bags.

“Lucy? Where are the others?”

“They left. They’re going to save Gabriel. They took Dan and Martha’s car.”

Abruptly, Dave was swaying, nearly losing his balance before he managed to support himself against the wall. Cheryl whirled around as everyone looked at one another in horror. “You okay?”

“Sorry, just…” He closed his eyes and rubbed his temples for a moment. Fucking déjà vu. That was all it was, hypersensitive pattern-matching grabbing a vague memory of something kind of similar from the dream and insisting it was exactly the same. He’d… he’d probably heard them through his sleep when they’d left or something, and his brain had made up the rest. Fuck, it’d felt real, though. “I’ll… I’ll call Jean and talk some sense into them. Fuck.”

The others waited, silent, as he dug out his cellphone and dialed her number. In the dream, he remembered distinctly, he’d told the kids they were keeping Gabriel at the church, for some godforsaken reason. He sure as hell wasn’t doing that for real.

“Hi, Dad!” said Jean cheerfully.

“Jean, what the fuck do you think you’re doing? Get back here right now.”

“We’re saving Gabriel! We took the Harrisons’ car, and Katherine could totally drive it all the way over here! And Felicia can smell Gabriel, so we’re gonna go and torch all the bad guys!”

Even though he knew it was just déjà vu, it was still fucking disorienting. “Look, you’re not going to torch any bad guys. This isn’t a movie. You don’t even know where they are, and even if you did you’d all get yourselves killed. These are people with guns and you’re a bunch of fucking kids. Don’t be stupid. Come on home and we can figure this out.”

He heard disruption and then, suddenly, Jack’s voice. “What the hell else do you want us to do? Just leave him to die?”

“I mean, if you want to get into that, him dying is a fuckload better than him and all of you too.” Jack didn’t answer that one, probably rightly. Dave pressed his lips together. “Look, for all you know they don’t even have him anymore at this point. He could’ve gotten out. You’re planning to go endanger yourselves anyway for fucking nothing?”

Sure. In the dream, it was kind of a blur but he was pretty sure Gabriel had just… spontaneously developed fire powers and fucking straight-up murdered some guy. That definitely wasn’t happening, on multiple levels.

“My point is, if you try to play superheroes, you’re not going to be fine, because you’re not fucking superheroes. Just get the fuck back here, understand?”

There was a long silence on the other end. “All right,” Jack said at last. “Fine. We’ll come back.”

“Good, you’d better. And, uh…” This was incredibly dumb, but the image of the thing that Jean had become in that dream was still fucking unsettling. “By the way, you know you all shouldn’t touch evolution stones with your bare hands, right? For all we know it could make your organs explode out of your chest. Just… don’t do that.”

Jack paused. “What?”

“Never… never mind, just something I was thinking about. Just get home.”

And Jack hung up. Dave exhaled slowly as he lowered his phone. “They’re coming home,” he said. “It’s fine.”

-------

They didn’t come home. Somehow they managed to figure out who the kidnappers were and where they would be anyway (Dave had a horrible suspicion that Mia was involved), and they stormed the church.

Jean didn’t come out of it a misproportioned, furry mess; she came out of it in a body bag.

They were all dead when the ambulance got there, all of them except Mia who’d been shot in the back and had passed out from blood loss. Dave went with the Kerrigans to the hospital and sat there by her bed, drumming his fingers, restlessly watching Cheryl and Howard as they hugged each other close, pale and exhausted and weeping, like a cliché out of the latest inevitable award-bait tragedy-porn flick. Lucy had been standing by the bed for hours, silent, staring at her sister’s unconscious face, not moving.

“Why’d you let them go?” he asked when he couldn’t stand it anymore. Lucy turned slowly, blinking, but said nothing.

“Dave,” Cheryl said sharply.

“You’ve got… you can do more creepy Pokémon shit than any of them.” He waved a hand vaguely, voice shaking, anger boiling in his lungs. “Why’d you just watch them fucking go?”

“Dave,” Cheryl repeated, her voice icy. “Don’t take this out on her.”

Lucy backed away from him, eyes welling up with tears before she vanished into thin air. Cheryl sprang up, looking around, murmuring her name softly, but not before giving him a silent death glare. Howard sighed deeply, shaking his head with his face in his hands, so pathetic-looking that Dave almost felt sorry for him. Almost.

Dave exhaled, massaging his eyelids. Wasn’t like the functional eight-year-old could’ve done much anyway. What, like she should’ve rushed in there herself, gotten killed too? Fuck.

But it was no use saying sorry to empty air. Wouldn’t fix anything anyway, for her or anyone else.

Mia lay silent, unmoving in her bed, and Dave stared at her, fists clenched and shaking, until sometime, much later, he drifted off into some kind of sleep.

-------

“Dave. Dave, wake up.”

He started awake immediately, a strangled noise emerging from his throat, hands clutching at the sofa. Martha gave him a concerned, warily sympathetic look. “You all right?”

He just blinked. “We should check on the kids,” she went on. “See how they’re holding up.”

“I…” He stared at the others, standing in exactly the positions he remembered them. “Okay,” he croaked as he rose to his feet. Okay, okay, what the fuck. Science and rationality. Just pattern-matching, for fuck’s sake. For this kind of thing to mean anything, you’d have to predict what’d happen ahead of time. What did he remember of the dream, exactly? Cheryl had knocked on the door and said…

“Kids? Are you awake?”

A fluke. Just a couple of words. He struggled to pull up words, exact words, as she reached for the door handle. Lucy? Where are the others? That was what he remembered. They left. They’re going to save Gabriel. And now it’d be different, different words, different events, because –

“Lucy? Where are the others?”

“They left. They’re going to save Gabriel. They took Dan and Martha’s car.”

Dave’s ears rang as everything melted together, voices echoing incoherently as blood pounded in his ears. Before he knew it he’d turned, stormed out the door and slammed it behind him, glaring daggers at the gray, cloudy sky.

“You think this is funny, huh? Think this’ll make me come crawling back?” His voice shook with rage. “Well, why doesn’t every other motherfucker who loses his kids get a second fucking chance, huh? You couldn’t use your almighty fucking magic to tell your shitbag worshippers not to murder kids the first fucking time? You couldn’t spare one fucking second to cure malaria instead of fucking with me? Fuck you!”

The sky didn’t answer. Dave took a deep, agitated breath, then another.

Fuck. Whatever was really going on here, he wasn’t this far gone. He turned back to the house and grabbed the doorknob, but it didn’t turn.

Cheryl opened as soon as he knocked, giving him a look that said oh, Christ, she’d heard him, hadn’t she. “Never fucking mind,” he said, whirling back and making a beeline for his car.

He stepped into the driver’s seat, started the car and headed north before she could come out and stop him. He’d kill those motherfuckers himself if he had to. The drive was a blur; he wasn’t quite aware of himself until he’d parked somewhere by the side of the church, diagonally across at least two spaces, marched up to the door, and torn it open.

A man stood there, armed with a handgun, staring at him in surprise. “Murderous fuckers!” Dave snarled, raising his own gun.

His hand trembled as he aimed, jerked with the unfamiliar recoil, and the bullet shattered a stained-glass window. The next one hit, somewhere; the man jerked backwards and then swung his gun arm back around and pulled the trigger.

Something punched Dave in the lung. He blinked as something sharp stung in the wake of the punch, squeezed the trigger again and again as everything became warm and wet and he couldn’t breathe. The other man collapsed as the gun clicked uselessly. Dave tried to take a step forward only for the power to leave his legs, sending him crumpling to the floor.

The gun clattered against the stone; he tried to reach for it, but all he could see was his fingers twitching uselessly in a spreading pool of blood, and the other man further away, eyes glassy and frozen and staring unblinkingly back at him from a lifeless, blood-splattered face.

There was a strange, cold numbness spreading through him as he struggled to breathe, to squirm towards the gun. The more his lungs tried to pull in oxygen, the more the taste of blood rose in his throat. He tried to cough and everything hurt. This had been a really, really fucking stupid idea. Why’d he ever thought this’d fucking work? (Maybe he hadn’t, really.)

He coughed again, gurgling blood, a stab of pain shooting through the numbness. His racing heartbeat thumped deafeningly in his ears. God, why wouldn’t it just fucking end? The other guy stared lifelessly back at him, and Dave tried to savour the small victory of taking one of them down with him, but all he could feel was nausea and spreading, throbbing agony.

Somewhere in the distance, a door burst open. A scream – Katherine? Hands were shaking him, and he tried to tell them to go, just leave, but nothing happened. The last fuzzy thing he saw as the world began to fade, finally, was Mia’s face leaning down into his field of vision, frowning at him, like he’d just done something incredibly, incredibly dumb.

-------

And then he was back. He jerked awake, limbs flailing in Martha’s face as she tried to rouse him, his heart pounding, and sprang to his feet like the world’s most frazzled jack-in-the-box. He felt his chest – no holes, no blood, nothing – and only after staring at Martha’s baffled face for a moment did it properly sink in that it was that morning, again. It had rewound, again, and he wasn’t dead, and none of that had happened.

“You okay?” asked Cheryl.

“Yes. No. No! The kids are gone. They’re gone, off on a fucking suicide mission, again. Fuck!” He clutched his hair, fingers digging into his skull.

“What?” said Martha, skeptical; Cheryl ran to the girls’ room and opened it, gasping in shock.

“They went to save Gabriel,” Lucy said, and Dave marched into the room, grabbing her by the shoulders.

“Lucy. How do I fix it?”

She blinked at him in confusion. He shook her shoulders. “Lucy, I swear to fucking God, if you don’t tell me what’s going on and how I save them –”

“What the hell is wrong with you?” Cheryl tore him away from Lucy with unexpected force, holding his arm in a painful grip, and Dave swayed on his feet.

“Ow, let me go, I just –”

“Not until you tell me what the fuck is going on and leave my daughter alone.” He stared at her, and she stared back, her gaze deadly firm. He’d never seen her quite this angry, and that sobered him a bit. He took a breath, his arm throbbing.

“Okay. Okay. Look, I’m… I’m stuck in a fucking loop. It was this same day yesterday, and the day before that. I know what happens. They go there and then they fucking die. Fuck!”

Cheryl glanced around silently. “Dave,” she said, loosening her grip on him slightly but not letting him go. “I think you should probably get a bit more rest.”

The others nodded in silent agreement. Dave stared wildly at them and opened his mouth, then closed it again. Yeah. He sounded like a fucking lunatic. Really, he would’ve been fucking worried if they had believed him.

“Okay,” he said and took a deep breath. “Yeah. I just… I’m just going to lie down and think for a bit.”

Cheryl didn’t let go of his arm until he’d laid himself back down onto the sofa. He pressed his hands against his eyelids, trying to soothe his pulsing headache, and tried not to listen to the others as they made phone calls and agitated arguments.

The first thing that flew into his head was to just walk out right now, drive to the nearest shooting range, practice until they closed, and then go to sleep, rinse and repeat, until he could waltz in there like a fucking action hero and dispose of the fuckers. Hell, apparently, if he failed he could just try again. Easy. Why not?

And yet, he didn’t move. His throat tightened with blood that wasn’t there, a coppery smell in his nostrils, quickening heartbeat thumping in his ears, lifeless, glassy eyes staring back and nausea rising in the back of his mouth, and he stayed rooted to the couch.

What the fuck kind of plan would that be, anyway? Save them, and then get arrested and tried for a fucking mass shooting in a church? Imagine the goddamn headlines.

It had to be possible to fix this. Somehow, he could make them turn back. And he had… his stomach did a queasy flip, but he could probably experiment. It’d all be reset anyway. He could do one thing, see what the consequences were, then do something else next time. It was a perfect setup, wasn’t it? Infinite replication with all variables identical, except for whatever he chose to change?

He started to sit up, but Cheryl pushed him back down. “I think you should stay there and let us handle this,” she said firmly.

Okay. Perhaps this wasn’t the best starting point. But that was fine. He had time. This was fine.

-------

The first thing he tried was to just not do anything. Sharon instead called Jack and tried to talk him out of it. Again, he promised they’d come back, but they didn’t. The outcome was the same as the first time, more or less: Jean returning home after touching a Fire Stone, Will and Mia dead.

For the next few goes, he tried calling Jean and saying different things. “Letting slip” that Gabriel was being held in a warehouse on the other side of town. They saw through it – Mia saw through it – and the same thing happened. Any time he warned Jean off the Fire Stone, everything somehow turned out worse.

Just taking a nap wasn’t enough to fast-forward to the next iteration. As best he could tell, after a few goes, it looped over at six AM. If he was awake by then, he’d just blink and find himself waking up on the sofa again. He restlessly accompanied the others to hospitals, nauseous as he identified Mia’s body for the fifth or sixth time, waiting to just get to sleep already so he could try again.

It crept up on him, finally, as he sat by Mia’s bedside once again, agitatedly trying to fall asleep on the hard chair, that technically he had a much quicker way to reset.

Yeah. Why not? He’d already died once. Be way fucking easier. He’d read enough at one point or another to not bungle it, to know where to shoot. Really it was a no-brainer.

He didn’t move. The bile in the back of his throat tasted of blood.

His gaze slid over to Mia, injured but alive this time around – not that it mattered, not that anything mattered when it’d all be erased in a few hours. She would tell him there was no reason not to, that he was just wasting his own time sitting here, trying to sleep in the world’s most uncomfortable chair. What was he even waiting for?

He stood up. Cheryl looked up at him, questioning. He pointed vaguely towards the restrooms. “I’m just…”

She nodded absently, looked away again.

Dave headed for the nearest bathroom, mouth dry, and the instant he’d closed and locked the door behind him, he was hit with a flash of intense nausea and only just managed to throw open the toilet and collapse in front of it before he was throwing up bile.

By the time he finally had control of himself and his stomach had settled into a dull, passive ache, he was shaking. He pushed himself weakly to his feet, rinsed out his mouth in the sink and then rose up again in front of the mirror, supporting himself on the brim of the sink. (God, he looked like shit.)

He pulled the gun out from under his belt and lifted it to his temple. His hand trembled in the mirror, and he squeezed his eyes shut. Willed himself to pull the trigger. Nothing happened.

This was dumb. Just fucking do it. He wouldn’t even actually die, for fuck’s sake.

Nothing. Why the fuck should he even care? They’d all just pop out of existence in a few hours anyway, gone like everything else.

Or would they? Was it the world that was looping, or just him? Would everything be erased, or would he be spawning an entire fucking alternate timeline where Howard and Cheryl watched him go in and lock the door, and then heard a bang, and would be left trying to explain to Mia when she woke up why he’d suddenly blown his brains out in a hospital bathroom?

(Worse, they probably wouldn’t even think it was that inexplicable, would they. Most of the kids were fucking dead. They’d just figure—)

There was an abrupt knock on the door, and he jumped, lowering the gun quickly, like a kid caught playing with something he shouldn’t.

“Dave?” It was Cheryl, of course it was. “You okay?”

“Yeah. Fine.”

“Do you need anything?” Her voice was exhausted.

“No.” Goddamn it. Why was she there, acting like she cared?

“It’s going to… We’ll get through this. I know that’s easy for us to say, our girls are still…” She trailed off with a heavy sigh. “I can only imagine what you’re going through right now. But they need you. Mia needs you. And we’re… here for you.”

What the actual fuck did she think he was doing in here. “Look, I don’t…”

“I know that’s not something you want to hear, but maybe you should hear it anyway. I just… I’m so sorry about Jean.”

His fingers clenched around the handle of the gun. He heard a soft thump and a slide, like she’d just sat down against the wall outside.

“I just keep replaying it all in my head, wondering if there was anything we could have done,” she said, quieter, only barely audible through the door.

Yeah. That’s what I’m doing too, with my new time-travel powers. He imagined opening the door, telling her that and raising the gun again. Just seeing the look on her face before pulling the trigger. Why not? It’d all be reset. Even if it spawned an alternate timeline, wasn’t like he’d have to fucking live in it.

He stood and squeezed the gun, jaw clenched.

Fuck.

Slowly, he put the safety back on and stuffed it back under his belt.

“Still there?” she said on the other side.

“There’s only one door. Do the math.” He sank down by the door and rubbed at his face. He was so fucking tired. Maybe it’d be easier to fall asleep in here than on that goddamn chair.

There was a pause. “You don’t have to deal with this alone,” she said.

“Great. Thanks. Eagerly awaiting your bright ideas on resurrection.”

She let out a long, exhausted sigh. A few seconds passed in silence before there was a shuffling of fabric as she stood up again. “Can’t say I didn’t try.”

Dave flopped his head against the door behind him and squeezed his eyes shut, waiting for sleep to come.

-------

“Hey. Jean? Where are you?”

“We’re saving Gabriel! We took Dan and Martha’s car and—”

“Look, it’s… it’s okay. You don’t have to do this. They just rescued Gabriel. He’s safe with the police. They just called to let us know.”

“Really?” Jean gasped over the phone. There was a little note of disappointment behind the relief in her voice. God, Jean.

The others were staring at him, faces shocked. Bill looked angry. Sure, let’s hear his genius idea. Their kids about to get slaughtered by a bunch of gun-wielding lunatics, and what, they were going to get on his case for fucking lying to them? Let them relive this day in a fucking loop, see what they came up with.

He heard indistinctly as Jean relayed the message to the others. There was a crackling as Jack took the phone, as usual.

“You sure? He’s safe?”

“Yeah. It’s all right, everything’s fine.”

“Weren’t you saying last night that probably some of them are in the police? How can you be sure they aren’t just saying they rescued him to stop us trying anything? Or that, that he’s even safe in their custody? When can he come home?”

Fuck. Had he said that to them? It’d been weeks by this point. “I called around, guy I know knew an officer he trusted, they put a team together. It’s fine.”

“It’s…” Jack hesitated. God, let him please just buy it, or he’d have to do a whole other iteration just to figure out a better fucking lie. “He’s really okay?”

“He’s fine.”

There was no way to tell whether Jack really believed him. The previous times he’d sure also made it sound like yeah, they’d be coming back, only to not do it. Dave paced, and drank half a bottle of scotch, and tried to tune out the others’ conversation about whether this was right and what they could possibly tell them when they got there, until the doorbell rang.

He held Jean, okay and fine and normal, for a long time, and didn’t have the voice to say anything at all.

Mia was looking at him intently from where she stood, and he half-expected her to bust out one of her sudden inspired deductions about everything based on the exact rate of his pulse or the contraction of his pupils or whatever the fuck. Instead, it was Jack who first asked about Gabriel and Bill who told him he was still at the church and always had been.

Jack stared at Dave mutely for a moment. Then he screamed and lunged. Dave let go of Jean, shoving her out of the way just before Jack’s fist barreled into his stomach. He staggered backward, wind knocked out of him, and before he could do anything at all, Jack’s antennae lit up with electricity and swung into his shoulder. His muscles seized up, everything cramping, and he hit the floor hard, teeth clamping down on the edge of his tongue.

“You fucked-up asshole,” Jack snarled, voice breaking, struggling as his parents pulled him back. “They’re going to kill him and you don’t even care!”

Dave tried to breathe through his nose as his mouth filled with blood, body locked in a fetal position, every muscle in his body simultaneously on fire. Cheryl and Dan were rushing to check on him, but all he could do was grunt vaguely. Jean watched with tears in her eyes, as betrayed as the rest.

Of course Jack wanted to head out again, but at least his parents were firm that that had never been a good idea and wouldn’t help anyone, and they sure as hell weren’t leaving him alone to rally the others again. Instead, Jack insisted they actually do what Dave’d said he’d done – call around, find a trustworthy connection with the police.

Dave sat on the sofa, silent, arms folded, glaring at nothing, with another glass of scotch. Yeah. Maybe they should’ve just done that in the first fucking place.

He downed the rest of the glass as the others made phone calls. His tongue was still aching and uncomfortable in his mouth, the cut stinging at the alcohol. Who the fuck would he have called anyway? But eventually someone bit and said they’d be looking into it.

They waited, and waited. Eventually Jean exhaustedly joined him on the couch, sniffling, curling up against him, and he put his arm around her and pulled her close.

He dozed off like that, eventually, after a long, long time, until he started awake at his phone buzzing in his pocket and fumbled to answer it.

“Hello, David Ambrose.”

The same voice from yesterday (weeks ago), laced with smug malice. Ice shot through his veins, evaporating the exhaustion out of his brain.

“Let him go,” he growled.

“Unfortunately you didn’t hold up your end of the deal. You know what that means.”

Fuck. Fuck. How the fuck had he even known? “The fuck are you talking about?”

“You know perfectly well.” There were faint sounds of movement from the other end of the phone, the opening of a door, footsteps. “Did you know, he was trying to escape earlier today? We had to tie him up.”

Dave pressed the phone to his ear, heartbeat thundering in his head. “Let him go, you piece of shit.” His voice was shaky and unconvincing. “Look, we can—”

Another door opened, and suddenly he could hear a muffled scream. “Say goodbye. There will be a next time. Remember this then.”

“Hello?”
came Gabriel’s voice, panicked as whatever had covered his mouth was removed. “Help! Someone, please, he’s—”

There was a gunshot, and then dead silence.

“Gabriel?” The other end hung up. His phone slid uselessly out of his grip.

Jean clutched his shoulder, sobbing quietly. Why’d they even tried? Fuckers. He’d always known this was a bad idea. Why’d he even fucking let them? Wordlessly, he pulled Jean close and squeezed her tightly.

Wasn’t this basically the ideal outcome, anyway, the one he’d been trying for? Only one fucking dead kid, Jean alive and well? Maybe with that achieved, the loop would break and they could all move on with their lives.

There was an icy pit in his stomach that wouldn’t go away.

“S-shouldn’t we tell the others?” Jean murmured.

He took a deep, sickening breath. “Yeah. I’m… Hold on.”

He let go of her, gently, and rose up, stumbling into the kitchen. He’d expected it to be empty, but Mia was standing there, hand in a bag of beef jerky. Alive and well, too.

“I was hungry,” she said.

“They shot Gabriel,” he said, his voice shaking uselessly.

Mia nodded. “They said they would do that.”

“How did they even fucking know? I just…”

“You said they rigged a Gardevoir test. Maybe they’re using Psychic Pokémon.”

Maybe. Did it even fucking matter? Just one more thing that didn’t work, because nothing worked.

“Hey, Mia.” He found the bottle of scotch, poured out another glass with trembling hands. “Say you could go back in time and just redo something. Do it better. What do you do?”

She narrowed her eyes at him. “You can’t do that.”

He waved a hand. “Hypothetically imagine it, okay. Just, humour me for a moment.”

“Can I only go back once, or many times?”

He raised an eyebrow. “As many times as it takes.” And what, then it’d stop? Who said it would? Maybe he’d save them all, do everything perfectly, and it’d just fucking reset itself again and undo it. His personal Hell, forever. Maybe that was what this was.

He downed the glass as Mia thought about it, the cut on his tongue burning, and started to pour out another.

“If I didn’t do something right the first time, it’s because I didn’t know all the information to do it right,” she said. “So once I know what happens, I have the information. Maybe something changes when I do it again, but it’s only going to take a few tries.”

“Well, what if the thing you’re trying to get right isn’t even really about something you did, it’s other people. How do you convince them to not do what you know is going to be a goddamn disaster, when nobody’s going to believe you’re a fucking time-traveler who knows the future?”

Mia frowned. “You could prove that you know things you couldn’t know. They should listen if they’re smart. But people are weird.”

Huh. Dave swirled the drink in his glass for a moment. “Yeah. That’s a good point.”

He finished the glass and went rummaging through the cupboards for more alcohol.

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Dave woke on the sofa again with his head pounding and just wanted to go back to sleep for at least another fifty years.

He waved Martha away vaguely, couldn’t get his eyes to do anything but stare at the curtains. She gave up and went to check on the kids. Gabriel’s scream and the gunshot that cut it off into silence echoed in his ears under the sickening slow thump of his pulse in his temples.

He told himself to get up and call Mia, but his body was made of lead, the thought floating vaguely by without doing anything. What would it actually accomplish, anyway? The universe would just find some new way to twist the knife. Maybe his next intervention would just kill a different one. Maybe he’d save them all and then a fucking cartoon piano would fall on Jean, just to spite him.

The others tried to get a response out of him, but not for very long; they had better things to think about. As they began to call around, the same insufferable panicked voices clamoring obliviously for the twentieth time, Dave realized there was no fucking point.

He pulled out the gun. When someone screamed his name, he was already squeezing the trigger.

Maybe, he managed to think before the bang, this was how to get out of it all along. Maybe this was just it, and it’d be over.

And then, he was back on the sofa.
 
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Aaaaaa, it's finally here! :D It was a delight to finally get to sit down and read this, including getting the full/final version of some scenes you've hinted about in the past.

This fic is exactly what it says on the tin, and it's been a lot of fun thus far! I really enjoy how Dave's temperament colors his approach to the timeloop situation; he's pretty much immediately ready to experiment, to try and change one small thing at a time to see what happens, and to determine the exact parameters around how the loop works (e.g. when things reset, and what ways he may or may not have of ending the loop early or otherwise influencing it). Of course, he isn't always able to approach things as a detached and unbiased scientist, for whatever reason (:copyka:), but the impulse is there, and I love how Dave can at times have a curious and experimental mindset towards his situation, for all the awful emotion it carries with it.

I think my favorite loops thus far are the one where Dave contemplates killing himself in the hospital bathroom (but doesn't) and the one where he succeeds in getting all the morphs back except for Gabriel. I like the former since we get to see some interaction between Dave and Cheryl, which tends to be pretty sparse. It's nice to see Dave get a bit of comfort even while he's trapped in his personal hell, and get more of a look at how the situation around Gabriel's kidnapping has affected characters beyond Dave. Dave will be Dave, of course, and Cheryl doesn't get to walk away happy, but this iteration ends up coming out more melancholy than sad. The latter scene just has so many lovely painfully dashed hopes. Maybe Gabriel will be okay if he can save everybody else. Maybe saving all but one will finally break the loop. But no. Instead it's the one where everyone turns their (at least partially justified) anger on Dave; it's the one where he gets to listen to Gabriel die over the phone. It's the scenario where Dave's done the best, so far as we've seen, but it ends up being one of the saddest and most frustrating. Good stuff.

It was also fun to see what I think is the "Dave and Mia Discuss Family" universe once or twice, or universes adjacent to it? :eyes: Perhaps Dave really is spinning off a trail of other universes, and in some of them he has to pick up the pieces of his failure...

I'm really curious what will end up breaking the loop. Is there actually some configuration where Dave can save everyone? Or is it going to be more about some sort of acceptance of the situation? With a story like this, I would ordinarily see some possibility of "sacrifice self to save everyone" being a possibility and loop-breaker, but I don't think that would really fit with the themes you usually explore with Dave.

Fuck the sun.
Certified Dave moment tbh. I enjoy the small moments of levity like this, Dave thinking of a cartoon piano falling on Jean, or his being compared to the "world's most frazzled jack-in-the-box." A lot of the humor comes from Dave's character and how he reacts to being pushed to the extreme, and it remains a lot of fun amidst the more angsty material.

Having a real good time with this so far and very much looking forward to the next part! Dave seems to be latching onto the idea of trying to work with Mia, which is intriguing. At the least it would be nice for him to have someone to bounce ideas off of. But you said that the tone shifts a bit in each section and, well, it doesn't seem like things can really be looking up at this point... :eyes:

Not sure whether you're interested in making edits to this or want feedback on typos and such, but if so there are some easy fixes under the spoiler.

Maybe he shouldn’t have drunk quite this much last night.
I think "drunk *so much" reads more naturally--"this" much invites some kind of comparison.

Cheryl didn’t look entirely like she’d gotten any sleep at all, bags under her eyes, her hair a tangled mess.
"Entirely" strikes me as out of place in this sentence; I think it'd work better if you struck it.

He stared at the others, standing in exactly the positions he remembered them.
I think this works better without the "them" on the end.
 
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“Hey, Jean. Is Mia there? I need to talk to her. It’s really important.”

Jean seemed taken aback. She was probably expecting him to ask where they were, what they were doing. No point in any of that.

“Um, okay. Hang on.”

Distortion again, then Mia’s voice. “Hi.”

Dave took a deep breath. “Hey. Bear with me for a moment. Hypothetically, what would it take for me to prove to you, right now, that I’m in a time loop and know everything that’s going to happen today?”

There was a beat of silence on the other end. “That doesn’t make any sense.”

“I know, Mia, but let’s say it came up. Just imagine it.” Thank God this was Mia and not literally any other person in the world, who would think this was a fucking bizarre thing to waste time on right now of all times. He was calling from the bathroom just so the others wouldn’t hear him, rip the phone out of his hands and try to get him institutionalized. He’d suggested they try to reach police contacts anyway, just to keep them busy. Clock ticking until they’d trip whatever had alerted the kidnappers before, probably. Not that it mattered. This was a throwaway timeline, just setup for the next. Probably best to just end it before it got to the point where anyone died. He’d had some practice at that by now.

There was another brief silence. “You’d have to tell me things that are about to happen that you wouldn’t be able to control, in enough detail that it couldn’t be a guess.”

“Okay. Cool. Problem is, hypothetically, I don’t know yet what’s about to happen around where you are right now, because I’m not there. So this is the loop where I ask. Can you describe some things like that as they happen, over the phone?”

“This is stupid.”

Deep breath. “Mia, please just fucking do it.”

Another pause. He could practically hear her frowning. “You’re being very weird. It’s more likely that you’re wrong or insane than that you’ve discovered time travel.”

“You’d think, huh. I mean, I didn’t exactly discover – look, just treat it as a hypothetical.”

“If you really were in a time loop, that’d be interesting. Time travel would have a lot of implications for science.”

“Yeah. Yeah, I’ll write thousands of fucking papers on this, I bet.”

There was a pause on the other end. “Katherine is yawning. She’s tired because she’s not photosynthesizing enough. Jack’s looking between me and her because he’s waiting for us to keep going. Will has his hands in his pockets. Jean is talking to him about her fire powers. She just said ‘I hope I learn all kinds of Fire moves when I grow up, like Eruption! Blast Burn! Blaze Kick!’ She kicked the air and almost fell over but Will grabbed her.” Pause. “There’s a yellow car coming from the east, and a blue car about to come from the west.”

“Okay. Okay.” He struggled to memorize the whole sequence as she said it. Would they even be doing the same things next time? Maybe something about the exact millisecond timing of it would affect something, set a train of thought going somewhere just slightly different. God. Fuck. Yellow car from the east, blue car from the west. No way in hell that’d be in any way affected by his actions.

“A Pidgey just landed on the closest traffic light, about two and a half seconds before it changed to red.”

He looked at his watch. 9:46:37. Pidgey on the traffic light.

“If you were really in a time loop, you should also tell me something that’s not visible. You could just know about the Pidgey or the cars approaching from security cameras.”

God. Dave rubbed his hand over his face. “Right. Okay. So tell me something I’d never know unless you told me. Something you were thinking, or whatever.”

Mia paused. “Earlier while we were driving I was thinking about what Katherine would taste like. Maybe the chlorophyll would make her taste like a plant. But that’s just in the skin, so if you removed it the flesh would probably be more like normal meat.”

Jesus Christ. His insides squirmed uncomfortably. “Okay, well, I sure hope your next-loop self knows I would not fucking think of that myself.”

“It’s still very unlikely that you can travel through time,” she said.

“Well, lucky for me, I’ve apparently got all the time in the world to convince you. See you next time.”

-------

He was prepared for Mia to not believe him, but once he’d told her all that, she was willing to entertain it, at least tentatively.

His shoulders sagged as he rubbed a hand over his face. Still sitting on the toilet lid in the tiny guest bathroom, indistinct voices somewhere on the other side of the walls.

“If you’re in a time loop, does that mean time is linear and everything rewinds, or are there different timelines branching off every time?”

Dave sighed. “I don’t know, Mia. All I know is I wake up again on that sofa every fucking time, and it’s always the same day and everything happens the same way, and I remember everything but nobody else does.”

“If you’re getting sent back in time, what happens to the you that was there?”

“Well, I’ve died a few times now and I still wake up alive. And I’ve still got the same goddamn hangover every time. So I’m not physically going back in time, it’s just the memories.”

“That doesn’t make any sense,” Mia said. “Your memories are just patterns of neural connections in your brain. If your body is the same as at the beginning of the loop, your memories should also be the same.”

That was a good fucking point, wasn’t it. Was this insanity somehow proving the existence of the fucking soul? What was the alternative, that his brain was traveling back in time, magically scooping the original brain out of his head and replacing it while leaving him unharmed? Was that really any less insane?

He massaged his eyelids. “I don’t know. None of it makes a lick of sense. All I know is it’s happening. You just heard me predict the future.”

“Do the other timelines keep existing after you loop? Maybe you split into one copy of you who stays in the timeline and another who loops back. Then each copy would always eventually stay in one of the timelines.”

“God, at this point I hope not.”

“Why?”

He scratched his scalp. “I mean, it’s not exactly helpful if every day there’s just a fifty-fifty chance I walk away in a world where some of you are dead and there’s nothing I can do about it, is it?”

Mia considered that for a moment. “So you don’t actually want to get out of the time loop. You just want to make it so that we win.”

“I… ‘win’?”

“Yes. You want us to go to the church and get Gabriel, without any of us dying. If you tell me what went wrong before, then we can do it better. Then, once it works, every time it loops you can tell me the same thing, and then we can win every time.”

“Look, no, hold on, Mia, I…”

He was going to tell her no, he wanted them to come back there. Just leave Gabriel for now and… then do what? Keep calling the police, with whatever unknowns were at play there, until somehow they wouldn’t find out? What the fuck was he trying to accomplish here?

He took a breath. “So what’s your plan here, exactly?”

“How did I die in the other loops? If you tell me, I can just not do that.”

Dave’s tongue was dry and uncomfortable in his mouth.

“The first time, you were shot in the back of the head. Three times. Died instantly.”

Mia considered that. “That’s dumb. I should’ve been listening for anyone behind me. Why wasn’t I doing that?”

His gut crawled with nausea. “Well, apparently you’d just slit somebody’s throat.”

“Huh,” Mia said, with neutral curiosity. “Who?”

“Please don’t do that, Mia.”

“Why?”

“Because.” He squeezed his eyes shut. “Because then even if you survive you’re going to prison and they’re going to activate the Dangerous Nonhumans Act and everything sucks forever, for all of you. You can never go to school again or get hotdogs or play with Lucy, okay? Do you want that?”

“No.” She paused. “Who was it?”

“One of those zealots at the church. How would I know?”

“Was it the one who killed Brian?”

Dave took a deep breath through his nose. “No.”

“That’s too bad. What about the other times?”

“Most of the time it was either that or you lived but got shot in the back while they killed everyone else. Look, Mia, I don’t know how the fuck you’re going to go in there and get Gabriel out without anybody dying. Again, it’s a bunch of people with guns.”

“This time I can hide,” she said. “I can see where they are and what they do, and then I can tell you afterwards. Then next time you can tell me before we go.”

Dave sat back against the toilet, jaw clenched. “So what happens this time around?” he asked. “The others all waltz in the same way and get killed?”

“If you’re really in a time loop, then from your point of view that doesn’t change anything. They’ll be back in the next loop.”

That was true, wasn’t it. Throwaway timeline. Just like the ones where he blew his own brains out and who knew what happened to the kids after that, if there was an after. Mia would stay in it, if there was any such thing, but she didn’t care, did she. Of course she didn’t. The only difference was he’d have to sit and wait while it happened.

“Okay,” he croaked. Worth a try. Had to be. What the hell else was he supposed to try?

“Then we should go.”

“Right. Okay. But…” He took a deep breath. “Just hang on for a bit. Please.”

“Why?”

He rubbed his face, the same stubble he’d had for weeks, months, clawing at his palm. Why? Good question.

He took another breath, like that, with his face buried in his palm, slumped against the back of the toilet. “Can we just talk, for a bit?”

“About what?”

“Anything. Time travel or science. The taste of fucking human flesh, whatever.”

“You’re being weird.”

He was so, so fucking tired.

Dave took another breath to say something, and it came out wordless and wavering. The next a trembling sob.

He removed the phone from his ear. “Dave?” said Mia’s voice on the other end.

For a moment he stared at the phone, teeth clenched, trying to blink the blur from his vision, body helplessly shuddering. He wavered over the end call button for a few seconds, throat tightening.

“Dave?” she said again.

Fuck. He punched the button, put the phone down by the sink with a clatter and curled up on the toilet lid, head in his arms, waiting.

It took a few agonizing minutes before his body had wrung itself dry, everything aching and swollen and wound. He wiped his face off with a few squares of toilet paper and then sat squeezing the wad, limbs shaking and powerless.

His phone started vibrating again on the counter. He picked it up and answered.

“Dave?” said Mia.

“Yeah. Yeah, I’m here.”

“Why did you hang up?”

“Never mind. Are you – are you still there?”

“We’re in the car now,” she said.

He took a deep breath, rubbing his face again. Options. There had to be options that weren’t sitting around waiting while they obliviously got themselves murdered.

Jack? He read a lot of sci-fi. He’d also fucking punched and paralyzed him, but at least this Jack didn’t remember him lying to them to make them leave Gabriel to die. Small victories.

“Look, can you… Just tell them. Tell Jack. Let’s see how it goes.”

Some part of him expected her to object, but she didn’t. Indistinctly he heard her voice, in the same tone as always, saying, “Dave’s in a time loop.”

Jack: “What—Mia, what?”

Indistinct explanation in Mia-speak. Jack, a little louder: “Mia, just – put him on speaker, please?”

“Hi,” Dave said.

“Dave, what the fuck are you talking about?” Jack had already sounded agitated on every previous phone call, but even more so this time.

(“You’re in a time loop?!” Jean gasped somewhere in the background, like it was the coolest thing ever. This girl was going to be the death of him.)

Dave sighed. “Look, I know it sounds batshit but – I proved it to Mia’s satisfaction by predicting the fucking future earlier. You think she’s a person who’d play along with this for a laugh, or what?”

“But that’s… Okay, let’s say we believe that crap. What do you expect us to do exactly? Not save Gabriel? Is that what this is about, you trying to get us to come back and just leave it? Like he’s nothing?”

He gritted his teeth. “No, Jack, I want to save him without you getting shot down like a pack of children attacking a church full of armed fucking nutjobs. That’s all.”

There was an uncomfortable silence. “So we did save him before?” Jack asked, his voice tight.

“Yeah, and two of you ended up dead instead. The next time went even worse. Now will you fucking listen to me?”

“Dave, this is insane,” said Katherine’s voice, tense and wavering. “You can’t just call and say you’re in a time loop – look, I’m going to pull over before I – shit!” A car horn blared. “Sorry!”

He’d almost managed to forget about the whole Katherine illegally driving a car aspect of the whole situation. “Yes. Yes, for the love of God, pull over. And be careful; first time around you managed to crunch somebody’s car in a goddamn parking lot.”

Will’s small voice piped up timidly, audible for the first time. “Who… Who died?”

Him. Him practically every single time, dead on the spot from a bullet to the head.

Dave inhaled. “Does it even matter? I hope to God none of you do this time.”

“He said earlier that the first time I did,” Mia said, helpfully. “And that the next time I lived but everyone else died.”

There was another uncomfortable silence. All of them realizing they were mortal, that versions of them had been torn apart by bullets and bled out on a church floor. Maybe it was for the best that Mia had just said it.

“I’ve got an idea,” Jack said, voice wavering. “We’ve – we’ve got Felicia with us. What if we get a Fire Stone and…”

“You already did and they fucking shot her too,” Dave snapped. “Fantastic idea, by the way, because before that Jean touched the fucking Fire Stone and…” His throat closed up, his grip on the phone tightening. Did they really need to hear about that? Probably not.

“Did you try just calling the police?” Katherine asked after a pause, hesitant.

“Of course we did. They found out.”

“And they…” Jack’s voice.

“Yeah.”

There was a long, thick silence.

“I want to go home,” said Jean quietly.

“You can’t just go home, Jean,” Jack snapped. “We need to save him.”

“I don’t want to if everyone’s just going to get hurt,” she said. She sounded like she was about to cry. Dave wanted to just reach through the phone and get her away from all this. Fuck.

“You want to just leave him to die, then?”

“Jack, for fuck’s sake, nobody wants to leave him to die. Do you want to get everyone else killed a dozen fucking times? Because, congratulations, you already did.”

Another silence. Dave rubbed his face in agitation.

“Dave, that’s uncalled for,” came Katherine’s voice finally, unsteady. “We all chose to be here.”

“Then what do we do?” Jack asked, voice breaking. “If we can’t go to the church and we can’t do nothing and call the police, what can we do?”

Dave took a deep breath. There wasn’t anything. Wasn’t that the point, last night, that night a century ago? There was nothing they knew would be safe, not in this timeline. Not unless they experimented. Put themselves in harm’s way just so he could move to a different timeline and save some other copies of them. Real fucking reassuring.

Fuck.

He sat up straighter, clutching the toilet lid. “Look, I’m… I’ll come out there and help.”

“What?”

“I’ve got a gun. I’ll come over where you are and we’ll all go in. I tell you everything I know. I can… What if I stop at the ranch and borrow more of Dan and Martha’s Pokémon?”

“Dave, this is… this is insane,” said Katherine. “Going in there got everyone killed before, and you want to join us?”

“Well, if you’ve got a better idea where Gabriel doesn’t die, I’m all fucking ears.”

“Our Pokémon aren’t really trained for high-stakes battling,” Peter muttered. “They’re not…”

“Don’t you see what he’s doing?” said Jack, cold. “He’s in a time loop. It doesn’t matter to him if this is a bad idea, because he can just try again. Right?”

Dave pressed his lips together. Had Jack always been this fucking cynical? In a flash he imagined just letting them go, whatever, seeing if he could have a better version of this conversation, or not have it at all, just figure out something else that wasn’t trying to convince a bunch of kids he was a fucking sci-fi character.

He rested his forehead on his palm. It didn’t even make any fucking sense, not at this point. Every previous batch of kids was already gone, either killed or wiped out by the reset or in some inaccessible alternate universe. Why should he even get attached to any one set of them? What was the fucking point of any of this?

“Jack,” he said finally, squeezing his eyes shut. “What exactly do you think I’d be doing if I just wanted you to not die? Because if you’ve got some brilliant idea of what that is, then please just fucking tell me.”

His voice came out wavering despite his best efforts. There was a long silence.

“Okay,” Jack said eventually. His voice was shaking too. “Okay, Dave. I don’t know. I just figure…”

“What happened when I touched the Fire Stone?” Jean asked in a small voice.

Deep breath. Dave pressed down on his eyelids, wished for the colored spots to just dissolve everything.

“You evolved,” he said. “But just… halfway. The Vulpix parts evolved. You came out of it blonde and proportioned like…”

Like a monster freak. Like a fucking Barbie doll. Like an uncanny valley character out of a video game with too many sliders.

“…Just fucking wrong.”

There was another cold silence. Why even tell her that? How was that helpful?

“You should tell us more about what happened on the previous loops,” Mia said. “The more we know about what happened, the more likely it is we could do it differently this time.”

“Mia, we can’t just…” said Katherine, her voice squeaky.

Jack swallowed. “No, it’s… I think Mia’s right. If we’re going to figure something out, we need to know exactly what happened.”

Dave’s stomach crawled. That first time was a long time ago now. The more of a blur it’d become, the better.

“First time,” he began, swallowing the sickness in his throat. “First time we woke up to all of you gone. I called Jean and told her you should come back, and you didn’t. Then eventually Jean shows up at the door, looking like… like that. Says she left you after the Fire Stone accidentally evolved her and came back by public transport, and the rest of you were going on to the church, even though you were already fucking figuring it was a trap. Lucy’s been there staring out the window this whole time, but once Jean says that she just floats out and goes oh, since they’re not coming here I’m going to help the others.”

“Wait, what?” Jack said. “Lucy?”

“Yeah. Lucy went and…” Hold on. “She went to the church, after you. By the time she gets there, Pete’s been shot, Katherine’s been shot, Will’s dead, Mia’s dead. Gabriel’s fucking dog is dead. Gabriel’s burned some man alive and then fainted, Mia’s slit somebody’s throat. Someone’s about to shoot Jack. And that’s when Lucy arrives on the scene, attacks that guy, and then when she sees Mia she goes berserk. Turns out she can use Perish Song, knocks out everyone in the vicinity and herself. And that’s how the police and paramedics find you.”

Lucy was powerful. She really could do more creepy Pokémon shit than any of them. She could make herself impermeable to bullets and knock out a building, just like that.

She was also as good as eight fucking years old. A horrid weight twisted in his stomach.

“Lucy can…” Jack said, realizing the same thing. “She can use Perish Song? And it… it just knocks everyone out? Safely?”

“Jack, you can’t be thinking –” Katherine protested.

“She could do it. She could save Gabriel and everyone.”

“She’s just a kid!”

Wasn’t like Lucy’d come out of it unscathed. She’d refused to speak. But then again, that was in the timeline where she’d arrived to find her sister shot in the head.

Was he really even fucking contemplating this?

“It…” Dave swallowed. “It might be worth a shot.”
 

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A brisk middle section--I was surprised to find myself reaching the end of it! Dave and Mia certainly make a good pair; sometimes, her blunt literal-mindedness is exactly what he needs to calm himself down and take another look at things. I do kind of think that one way or another the ultimate "solution" to the loop is going to involve Dave going into the church, one way or another, and probably working together with the kids to some extent, since what he can do on his own is limited. VERY fun moral dilemma at the end there about involving Lucy. Theoretically perish song solves everything, and no one even needs to get hurt, and no doubt Lucy would be eager to do anything to help. Leaving aside the ethics of it, getting her away from the other adults may not be so simple. I wonder whether Dave will also need to convince the adults that he's in a time loop; that would certainly be an interesting conversation with Cheryl...

Lots of fun details to love in this section. Mia suggesting she hide and observe what happens in the church and then inform Dave, without being at all bothered at the prospect that this means watching multiple friends die. Dave being desperate to keep Mia on the line for just a little longer, then needing to hang up for a bit so he can sob uncontrollably. Jean being wholly enthusiastic about Dave's predicament. It's always a lot of fun to watch Dave and the Morphic crew bounce of each other, in all their myriad scenarios.

She just said ‘I hope I learn all kinds of Fire moves when I grow up, like Eruption! Blast Burn! Blaze Kick!’ She kicked the air and almost fell over but Will grabbed her.
AWWWW JEAN

“Earlier while we were driving I was thinking about what Katherine would taste like. Maybe the chlorophyll would make her taste like a plant. But that’s just in the skin, so if you removed it the flesh would probably be more like normal meat.”
AWWWW MIA

(I also love Katherine being bad at driving in the background, lol. Poor Katherine.)

I can't imagine this is going to be the final loop, not just yet... and it'll be absolutely crushing for Dave when it fails. On the other hand, we also don't have that much of this fic left, so not much time for more loops. Very curious! Eagerly awaiting the conclusion; from here I really have no idea of how this is gonna end.
 
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There was no way in fucking hell that the others would okay this. So Dave just told them he was going to see how Lucy was doing.

She looked up at him as he entered the girls’ room, all bright innocent eyes, smiling serenely. Like everything wasn’t fucked-up and upside-down.

“Hey, Lucy,” he said, his voice fucking weird, and instantly she just ran up and put her arms around his waist.

“It’s okay, Uncle Dave. They’re going to save him,” she said, with dumb little kid certainty.

He swallowed hard. “Look, about that. They might need your help.”

She released him, blinking up at him. “I have to stay here and take care of you,” she said after a moment.

Take care of them? “Yeah, uh, it looks like maybe you don’t, after all. They just want you guys. Kidnapping Gabriel and all that, it was mostly a plot to get the rest of you over there. They’re not planning to come here.”

Lucy stared at him, hesitant. “How do you know?”

He exhaled slowly, shoulders sagging. So fucking tired.

“Because I’m in a time loop, okay?”

She blinked.

“As in, this whole day happened, and when I woke up again it was this morning again. And then the whole day happened again, and so on, and it’s still happening. And it’s gone a million different ways, but I’m telling you they never fucking come over here or hurt any of us. They just… they’re going to hurt Mia.”

Lucy looked at him carefully. Did she think this was some elaborate make-believe? Or would she actually buy it? Hard to tell.

Her brows knitted together. “How can I help?” she asked.

Dave took a deep breath. “Do you know how to use an attack called Perish Song?”

-------

She didn’t, apparently. But she did have some attacks that she practiced sometimes when she was alone that she hadn’t told anyone about. People would think she was a freak. Weird. And they all kept telling her and Mia that they had to be really sure not to hurt each other in their games, after all. So she’d just kept it a secret and never done it in front of anyone.

(It would have just about given him a heart attack to learn that, if he hadn’t already learned it so many times as part of learning multiple kids were dead.)

So Perish Song… That one must have been spontaneous. A reaction to Mia’s dead body. They sure as hell weren’t recreating that just so she could do it again.

But it was still better than nothing. Or so he hoped.

Again, there was no way in hell the others would approve this. So Dave just told them he wanted to have a look around for whether there was anyone watching the building, and once he was out he got in the car and signaled Lucy so she could float out through the wall and get in the back seat before anyone noticed a thing.

It only took a minute after he’d started the car before his phone started ringing frantically in his pocket. Yeah, right. Not answering that.

He imagined who it might be. Cheryl, probably. Asking what the fuck he was doing with her daughter, was he mad, where did he think he was going. What would he even tell her, anyway? Don’t worry, I’m in a time loop? I’m sorry but I tried fucking everything else? Just personally bringing Lucy into danger too, she’s the only one who hasn’t fucking died yet?

The buzz in his pocket continued until it rang out, went quiet for three blissful seconds, and then immediately started again.

He reached a shaky hand into his pocket, the other gripping the steering wheel, and fished it out before extending his hand blindly toward the back seat. “Lucy, can you just press the fucking red button if it starts ringing.”

“You don’t want to answer?” she asked hesitantly, but took the phone anyway. In the rear-view mirror, he watched her flip it open with a look of intense concentration and then press the end call button.

“Well, no. It’s probably your parents and they wouldn’t exactly give a nice thumbs-up to this.”

Lucy looked guiltily away. He probably shouldn’t have fucking said anything. The phone rang again in her hands and she pushed the button.

“Why didn’t you tell them about the time loop?” she asked.

“Because they’d never fucking believe me, okay? They’re grown-ups with brains who know this makes zero scientific sense. I wouldn’t fucking believe me either.”

“You said the others believe you,” Lucy said. “The other morphs.”

“Yeah. Open-mindedness of youth, I fucking guess.”

Lucy watched him carefully in the rear-view mirror. Again the phone went off and she silenced it.

“Is the time loop going to stop if we can save everyone?”

He exhaled slowly.

“I don’t know. Maybe. Best fucking guess.”

Why would it? Why the fuck would it? Wouldn’t that require there to be some kind of benevolent fucking god-entity who was actually doing this just so he could save all the kids, yet wouldn’t just intervene in any of the billion better ways to do it? Why wouldn’t everything just reset again, force him to do it all again until the end of time? What was the point?

“What are you going to do if it doesn’t?” Lucy asked, hypnotic eyes unblinking.

He took a deep breath.

“Well, then we’d just have to save them again.”

“Even if it won’t work?”

“Well, if we can do it once, we can try again. Guess I’ll get it down to a fucking art. Shortest conversation that’ll get you on board, go.”

She was silent for a few seconds. Who the hell knew what she was thinking.

“You’re scared,” she said.

He raised an eyebrow. “Uh. Okay.” She sounded… what? Worried? Unsettled? Accusatory?

“You’re scared that we can’t save them. Or that it’s never going to stop even if we do.”

Christ. He got enough of this psychoanalytical bullshit from Mia.

“I mean, what, do you expect me to just assume baselessly that everything’s going to be great, in this fucking science fantasy bullshit scenario? What do you want from me?”

Lucy’s gaze stayed on him in the mirror for a few seconds before the phone began to buzz again. She hit the button and then turned away.

-------

Katherine’d pulled over into a grocery store parking lot, and there they stood, restless, avoiding suspicious glances from customers. Dave parked in the next spot over and opened the door.

Jean immediately flung herself at him. Will took a step closer but then stopped and looked uncomfortably away, fidgeting. Peter patted Will’s shoulder awkwardly, without saying anything. Jack and Katherine looked at Dave, eyes haunted, lips wavering. Traumatized by knowledge of things that hadn’t even happened.

Lucy ran out to hug her sister, who stood there blankly, brow furrowing, clearly not entirely comfortable with not being able to move her arms.

Dave held Jean tightly while she cried into his shoulder and didn’t have the voice to say anything.

“Lucy,” Jack began after an uncomfortable minute. “So you can… You can use Perish Song?”

She sniffled, shaking her head. “I don’t know.”

Jack raised his hands in agitation. “Then what—”

“But I can do Shadow Ball,” Lucy went on. “And Confusion, and… I think it’s Pain Split.”

Jack stared at her. “Since… Since when?”

“I’ve been practicing,” she said, looking down shyly. Yeah. Secretly practicing powers the rest of them couldn’t even imagine, just casually in her free time.

Jean had stopped crying, but didn’t move, clutching the back of his shirt and taking deep shuddering breaths. “What are we going to do?” she muttered, her voice small.

Some exhausted part of Dave’s brain didn’t want to do anything. Just stay here and hold her, savor this moment of the kids just being alive and well.

But right now, Gabriel was somewhere captive in a church, terrified, waiting to make a foolhardy attempt to escape that’d be quickly squashed with no one else there diverting the zealots’ attention.

He exhaled carefully, squeezing his eyes shut for a moment before letting go of Jean. She released him too in response. “Okay. Lucy, show me you can turn invisible.”

In the space of a second, Lucy’s body dissolved into smoke and then vanished entirely. Then, a second later, she reemerged. Quick, effortless. So long as she could do that, she should have plenty of juice to stay insubstantial. Impermeable. Bulletproof.

That should have been helpful, but it didn’t stop his gut crawling.

“So you’d go in there, insubstantial.” He half wanted to suggest she be invisible, too. But that was harder to keep up for long, actually riskier. And better if they wasted bullets on someone who wouldn’t be hurt, wasn’t it? Better if she stood there, a little girl, and just let them fucking shoot at her. Christ.

“You try to knock out anyone who’s there, okay? Just knock them out, until there’s no one left. And then you find Gabriel. He’s in the back somewhere. Just find him and help him get out.”

Lucy nodded, almost imperceptibly.

“And then we go home, and everything’s going to be fine.”

They all looked at one another. Tired. Haunted. Unsure.

“I guess that’s the best we can do,” Katherine said anxiously. “Are we getting back in the car?”

“No. No, you’d better stay safe here. I’ll drive Lucy up there.”

“But then she doesn’t have any backup, if…” Jack trailed off.

“You’re not going to be anyone’s fucking backup. Just stay clear and let us handle this.”

Jean shifted on her feet, uncomfortable. “Be safe, Dad,” she said, averting her eyes.

What could he do? He hugged her again, uselessly. “Look, I’ll be back,” he said. “I’ll be fine and then we’re coming back. With Gabriel.”

With that, he got back in the car with Lucy.

They drove on in silence, Lucy’s big round eyes looking this way and that. Dave knew the way to this fucking place far too well and hated it. He pointed out the building as they approached, then parked out of sight a little way down a side street.

“I’ll be back soon,” Lucy said before he had managed to work out what he wanted to say to her. She ran a hand through Dave’s body with a small giggle (a cold tingling went through him, sent a shiver down his spine), then phased out of the car and ran off down the street.

Dave sat and squeezed the steering wheel, pulse pounding in his ears. He’d just taken Lucy right up to the cult who wanted to murder her, expecting her to singlehandedly beat them. He’d officially fucking lost it.

The minutes crawled on as he waited. Nothing but the omnipresent sound of traffic, kids yelling shrilly somewhere up the street. Had there really been nothing he could do to help her? She’d just fucking up and vanished before he’d had a chance to think, and now they hadn’t even fucking talked about it. What was she even doing?

Then, suddenly, the boom of a gunshot. He stiffened in his seat, blood running cold, a sharp spike of adrenaline piercing through him. Another. And another four in quick succession.

Silence stretched on, his heart thundering in his chest. Confused shouts in the distance. His knuckles tight on the wheel.

Then more gunshots. Fuck. Fuck.

Lucy could take it, she was insubstantial, she could take it – but what about Gabriel? Would they get him? He should have come in there with her, done something, something

After another eternal, sickening pause, he heard rapidly approaching footsteps.

He whipped his head around to look up the street. And there… there was Lucy, running in a flurry of giggles, dress streaming behind her, and… Gabriel? Glowing. Naked.

He blinked, frozen. The two approached the car, Lucy easily phasing through it, Gabriel wrenching the back seat door open and sitting down, panting. Slime messily squelching against the seat.

“Please, just drive,” Gabriel gasped.

Did they have someone coming after them? Dave didn’t wait to find out. He backed out of the parking spot in a single quick turn and then floored it out of there.

-------

No pursuers. Not that they could see. Lucy said she’d knocked most of them out with Shadow Ball, and she’d had to knock out some of them twice. Which was probably good. It should mean it was nonfatal, right? No permanent damage? Nothing to pin on her other than reasonable self-defense?

Gabriel looked from side to side, swallowing. If he was glowing like that, he had to have been using his fire, like the first iteration. Had he used it on anyone?

“Hey, uh,” Dave said, “what about you?”

Gabriel looked wildly up. “What?”

“You hit anyone with your powers?”

“No! I…” He looked away, uncomfortably. “I mean, a little. But then Lucy appeared and knocked him out, so I stopped.”

Jesus. Would they have to deal with someone with second- or third-degree burns? Easy to use that to present the Pokémorphs as a danger even if no one had died.

Fuck. Think about that later.

They stopped where the other kids were. Jack hugged Gabriel tightly, ignoring the slime staining his clothes, and Gabriel sank into him, breaking into sudden sobs.

They couldn’t possibly pack all eight morphs into his car, so Jean came with him and Lucy and Gabriel and he let Katherine drive the others back, so long as she was very fucking careful. (It was probably for the best that he didn’t try to squeeze another morph in the middle back seat next to Gabriel, given he was oozing everywhere.)

In the end, they got them all safely back to the Kerrigans’ house, after a detour to get clothes for Gabriel out of the lab, some of the old test garments. Martha grilled Dave angrily on what on earth he’d been thinking when they were all inside, but at least she couldn’t argue with the goddamn results.

Everyone was safe. Gabriel was safe.

Dave sank into the sofa as the barrage of questions died down, all energy gone somewhere in it all. He wanted to sleep, for a thousand years. But if he slept, probably it’d all be gone by morning. He clung to wakefulness, to just watching the kids, there, all of them. Alive.

Jean sat on the sofa beside him, quiet but leaning on his shoulder. Lucy shrieked with giggles as Mia chased after her. Peter and Katherine and Will were talking with their parents, who hugged them close, even with no idea what had happened to them all the other times.

Jack and Gabriel were talking in the kitchen for a while in hushed tones. Gabriel squirmed uncomfortably in the clumsy test clothes, but his skin had slowly darkened to its usual tone.

“Hey,” Gabriel said eventually when the two of them stepped back out into the living room. “Dave? I… Jack told me what happened today and… I don’t know what’s going on, but thanks.”

He didn’t entirely look Dave in the eye. Gabriel didn’t, a lot of the time. Either it was just the normal thing, or the bit where supposedly Dave was living a ridiculous sci-fi scenario that nobody should take at face value, or something else.

“So long as nobody’s dead,” Dave said.

Now that they could just call the police without risking Gabriel’s life, they did. There were some calls back and forth. Apparently Gabriel’d indeed given one of the gunmen nasty burns, and of course they’d probably have to fight tooth and nail to call that a case of obvious self-defense, but they’d cross that bridge when they came to it.

Howard and Cheryl made everyone dinner, and finally they headed home.

Dave put Jean to bed, a tight knot in his chest. It should be over. He’d saved them all, hadn’t he? It was supposed to be over now. This batch of kids was supposed to be the one that lived, that wasn’t erased from existence.

He crawled into bed exhausted and tense and wound up, limbs shaking. Somehow he fell asleep anyway.

-------

“Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”

Hands were shaking him. Martha. He was on the sofa again.

He waved her away and just lay there for a while, breathing.

So this was forever. This was all that there was, this day, trying to save them, again and again, until the end of time.

He didn’t want to rise from the sofa, or do anything. He just wanted some goddamn rest. He wanted to not have the same fucking headache every day.

But he couldn’t have any of those things.

He braced for the Herculean task of standing up. Cheryl came by to prod him and he hardly noticed. At least now he knew what he had to do. Maybe eventually he could just do it on autopilot and stop thinking.

-------

In the back seat, Lucy punched the red button on his phone.

It’d all been easier this time, in a way. Persuading them there was something they could do was a lot smoother when he could just tell them he had a plan and it’d already worked, though convincing them he wasn’t just picking the worst possible moment to fuck with them was still an ordeal. In some fucking way it felt wrong. Like he hadn’t earned it without Jack hammering him about whether he even cared, Jean horrified and distraught about what’d happened to her in some other timeline.

“The loop’s not going to stop even if we can save everyone, is it?” Lucy asked quietly.

“I don’t know. Apparently it fucking didn’t last time.”

“So what are you going to do if it doesn’t?”

He took a deep breath. “I’ll just have to try again, all right?”

“Even if it won’t work?”

“Well, what the fuck else do you expect me to do? Just leave them all to get themselves killed in new and interesting ways?”

Her hypnotic gaze stared at him in the rear-view mirror. “You’re scared.” Same weird combination of tones in her voice.

He clenched his teeth, exhaling, and didn’t say anything.

“You’re scared that it’s never going to stop.”

Christ. Was she going to do this every time? “Well, it already hasn’t stopped for however long it’s been. So what’s another fucking lifetime of this?”

Lucy surveyed him for a few seconds in the mirror and then looked away to silence the phone again.

-------

This time he warned Lucy to try to find Gabriel early, make sure he wouldn’t burn that one guy too badly. And she had managed to cut him short a little earlier this time, it seemed.

“Hey, Gabriel,” Dave said after a minute of silence, glancing at the Slugma morph in the rear-view mirror. Still brightly glowing and restless in the back seat, even though Lucy’d assured him he’d only burned the guy a little. “Where exactly were you in the church?”

Gabriel’s head whipped around. The way he acted unusually alert, almost as if he were ready to dodge an attack, was still disconcerting. “Uh… some kind of storeroom, I think. Really small and dirty. I think they stored shoes there or something, but they’d emptied it out.” He paused. “I tried to eat the dirt off the floor,” he added with a manic chuckle. “That’s how I… That’s how I discovered my powers. Because I realized it’s my skin that eats it. And then I just… stripped and rolled all over the floor and then I could just… just burn my way through the fucking door? It was… it was easy.” He giggled madly in disbelief.

That explained a lot. A much better reason than most for why Gabriel had been naked.

“Where exactly is that room? Like, what’s the best way into it, from the outside?”

“It was way in the back. Closer to the back door. It was…” Gabriel fell silent, looking back at Dave in the mirror. His slimy hands dug into the leather of the car seat. “Why?” he asked, voice wavering.

Dave let out a long sigh. Explaining himself was never going to stop being a fucking headache. “Never mind.”

“Lucy… Lucy said something about you being in a time loop,” Gabriel went on, glancing at Lucy. “Is this… Is this for the next loop? You figure we’re all just going to poof and disappear, and you just try to do it better next time with some other us?”

His gaze was wild and haunted, probably exacerbated by his Pokémon half. Dave didn’t know what to fucking say to that, to the inherent existential horror of everything about this.

“Well, maybe your timeline just goes on from here, for all I know.”

“But you think you’re still going to go back? How do you stop it?”

“I fucking don’t, apparently. What, do you have some bright ideas?”

Gabriel pressed his lips together, folding his arms and looking away. The glow of his skin throbbed restlessly like a flickering candle.

“I… I always wished they’d shot you instead of my dad,” he blurted out quietly, in one breath, like a secret he’d never before been drunk enough to expel.

A cold, awful chill went through Dave’s veins. Dumb, really. It wasn’t surprising. It wasn’t even fucking wrong.

He didn’t answer. Gabriel sat there, braced for something, shoulders tensed, like he expected to be yelled at. Dave’s knuckles tightened on the steering wheel.

“Well, who fucking doesn’t?” he said.

Gabriel looked up, blinking in confusion, his brow furrowing again. Lucy stared at him from the other seat, fiddling anxiously with the folds of her dress. Dave pointed his eyes firmly back at the road. Just drive, just fucking drive. Next time he would keep his fucking mouth shut. Or maybe next time he’d give Gabriel what he wanted and next time after that he’d keep his fucking mouth shut.

“Are… Are you okay, Dave?” asked Gabriel’s voice, wary.

“Yeah,” he said, teeth clenched. “Never fucking better.”

-------

Gabriel didn’t thank him this time. He looked harrowed and agitated even after he’d calmed down and his skin turned its normal dull orange. Dave caught Jack giving him strange, accusing glances but staying away. Maybe, on some level, that was better.

When he’d put Jean to bed he just sat and watched her for a while, stroking her delicate Vulpix curls and fighting the hollow ache in his chest and the burning in his eyes.

He didn’t want to leave her, lose her, lose these last moments with this version of her. He wanted to just hold her and hold onto her until she came with him. He wanted to just fucking hold onto all of them and then free them from this endless nightmare.

But he had to let her sleep.

Slowly he stood up, retreated to his bedroom, and curled up under the covers in his clothes, clutching the comforter, waiting.

-------

He told Lucy to enter from the back. To find Gabriel before he burned anyone. The less could be pinned on them, the better.

The phone buzzed in the back, and Lucy silenced it.

There was a long pause.

“The loop’s not going to stop even if we can save everyone, is it?”

“Nope,” Dave said, staring at the road ahead.

Lucy was silent for a few long seconds. “Then what are you going to do?”

“Well, I’m just going to have to keep saving them better. I’m the good fucking timeline factory and that’s all there is.”

Silence. Then, “You’re scared,” she said, again.

“Yeah? Scared of fucking what?”

“Everything.”

“Well, maybe everything about this is a fucking nightmare, okay? Maybe I’m here living my own personal customized Hell and even when I do fucking save them you’re still all going to disappear once the clock ticks past six AM and that’s it, forever. Does that sound fun to you?”

Lucy shrank back in the seat, silent, hands in her lap. Another phone call came in, and she silenced it listlessly.

“Then why are you still doing it?” she murmured.

Good fucking question, wasn’t it.

“Fine. You’re right. Why should I even bother? I guess I should just go fuck around for the day, doing whatever I want, and forget about the bit where kids are being murdered.”

Lucy looked away, hands fidgeting. “Why are you always so mean?”

“I’m not—”

There was an abrupt blockage in his throat. He stopped, swallowing, breathing through his nose.

“About why you’re still doing it, I meant…” Lucy began hesitantly, almost inaudible. “I didn’t mean you shouldn’t.”

No. She meant she was worried he wouldn’t. That was what it was, what this had been the whole time.

“Lucy,” he managed to say. “I’m not going to stop.”

His throat was still aching, burning, eyes prickling uncomfortably.

“Why?” she asked, quiet.

“Because…” His voice came out strangled, dying before he could finish the word. He pressed his lips together, staring out at the road.

Lucy’s gaze was steady on him in the rear-view mirror, questioning.

“Because I need to keep doing it. I need you, all of you, alive, or there’s no fucking point.”

His face twisted into a grimace, struggling, his eyes threatening to burn out of their sockets.

“If I keep doing it then there’s one more evening where you’re all there, and one more timeline where you’re all okay, even if I’m not fucking in it.” His voice shook helplessly, his efforts to steady it scrabbling uselessly for purchase. “That’s what matters. It’s all I’ve got. There’s nothing else.” He tried to take another breath, and it dissolved. “Fuck.”

He wanted to pull over and leave the car and just fucking walk straight ahead into nowhere until everything stopped. But the clock was ticking until Gabriel discovered his powers and started burning zealots, and he couldn’t afford to.

Instead, he took shuddering breaths there, in the car, staring red-eyed at the road, knuckles white on the steering wheel.

“Look, I’m sorry,” he said. For snapping at her. For the previous times he’d snapped at her. For involving her in this at all, over and over, when she should never have had to go through or think about any of this. For whatever the fuck this was.

“It’s okay,” Lucy said, her voice small. “Thanks for helping. I want to help you, too.”

He couldn’t speak. He just kept driving, knot tight and aching in his chest, and thought of Gabriel.

-------

And this time, he really hadn’t burned anyone. Gabriel had rolled around on the floor in that little room, begun to realize he had powers, and then before he’d actually gotten to smashing his way through the door, Lucy’d drifted in and told him it was okay, she was here and she could knock them out without anyone getting hurt. And Gabriel’d agreed that that made sense. Put his clothes back on while he waited for her.

His skin had been glowing brightly when he’d gotten to the car, his eyes wild and shining, his movements restless. Like a Pokémon pumped up for battle only for its opponent to flee, still hopped up on hormones waiting for an outlet.

“I think…” he said after a while of silence, a strange waver in his voice. Confusion, fear. “I’m… I think I can…”

“Yeah,” Dave said, staring ahead at the road. “Your skin eats dirt. Always did. Once it’s properly fed, your Slugma side’s finally happy and you can use Fire moves. Should’ve been fucking obvious that’s what was going on. Just never managed to figure it out.”

“I…” Gabriel looked away. Hands clenching and unclenching, lips pressed together. “How did you know?”

“Let’s just say I’ve had some time to think about it.”

In the rear-view mirror, Gabriel’s brow furrowed in confusion. His eyes were still shining, gloved fingers digging into the seat.

“What… What do you mean?” He paused. “Is it… Lucy said something weird about a time loop. Is that… Is that really what’s going on?”

Dave took a deep breath. Then another.

“It doesn’t matter,” he said. “What matters is you’re okay, and we’re going to get you home, all right?”

Gabriel stared at him in restless, frustrated confusion for a few seconds more, and then he exhaled, sagging back in his seat, squeezing his eyes shut for a moment before opening them again.

“Okay. I… Thanks for coming,” he said, quiet. “For saving me. I’m… I’m feeling kind of weird.”

Dave took another breath past the tight ache in the middle of his chest. “It’s probably your body temperature,” he said. “You’re going to be okay. Just breathe.”

“Okay. Okay.” Gabriel closed his eyes again and inhaled. “Just breathe.”

The boy’s chest rose and fell, the tension in his body slowly fading. His skin was starting to look a little more normal, too.

“You need to tell me about this time loop thing later, though,” Gabriel muttered. “And Jack. He’d love it.”

Dave exhaled. “Maybe.”

-------

He should have been getting Jean into bed once they were home. But this time he just couldn’t. He collapsed on the couch and told her she should go brush her teeth and he’d be right there.

He sat there and he shook, and the more he tried to stop it the worse it got, turned into full-body shudders. He buried his face in his hands and just waited.

Everything was fine. Everything was fine. Everyone was okay, no one had died, no one was hurt. He could do it again. Shouldn’t he be fucking happy?

“Dad?” asked Jean’s voice, rapid footsteps approaching. He didn’t have the energy to even care. She wrapped her arms around him and he pulled her in tight and just clung to her as everything emptied.

“What’s wrong, Dad?” she asked, quiet, concerned.

“I don’t want you to go,” he muttered, brain blank with exhaustion.

“I’m not going anywhere,” she said. “It’s okay.”

Only she was. Six AM would roll around and he would wake up back on that couch and a different Jean would be back in the car with the others. A different Jean who’d also disappear, forever.

“So you think you’re still in the loop?” she asked, quiet, without letting him go.

He nodded silently, unable to speak, still holding onto her, and she stayed, head buried contentedly in the nape of his neck.

“Well, I’m not leaving until you say you want me to,” she said firmly.

He breathed in and out. Stroked her hair, numb, the knot in his chest tightening.

“Hey, Jean,” he managed to say eventually. “How about we just… stay up and watch a movie for a bit?”

She lifted her head, grinning eagerly, eyes sparkling at the official parental permission to stay up late. “Ooh! It can be like that time you were going to the conference! What movie should we watch? It loops at six AM, right? Maybe we can even do two movies! Ooh, can we make popcorn?”

He meant to say something like yeah, why not, it’s been a day, hasn’t it. His brain struggled to gather the energy.

“Please,” he said instead, voice wavering.

She squeezed him again. “Don’t worry, Dad. I’ll make the popcorn.”

She dozed off halfway through the movie, head resting on his shoulder, arm still draped around his neck, the bowl of popcorn lying empty in his lap. He stroked her hair carefully and listened to her heartbeat until, sometime, without realizing, he drifted off too.

-------

Dave woke up, hands automatically flailing to push Martha away. But she wasn’t there.

He blinked slowly. He was… home. In his bed, staring at the bedroom wall.

He jerked upright. Home. He was home.

“Dad?”

The door pushed open, and—

—and Jean was there, too tall on awkward legs, unruly blonde mane, and for a good five seconds he had no fucking idea what was going on anymore.

And then he remembered, head spinning, that that day had been months ago. Not subjective months ago in a time loop, months of life and everything continuing on despite everything. Months of Jean in her new form, of funerals and hearings and house arrest and dragging himself to work every morning. Of Mia and Will being dead, shot at the church. Of Gabriel a murderer.

“Dad, we’re out of cereal. Can you go to the store? Since… I can’t.”

Jean’s posture was awkward as she hugged herself, like she’d been ever since then, familiar but not. Dave stared at her, months or years of thinking of this form with unthinking horror and revulsion curdling in his stomach. What? What the fuck? What kind of fucked-up fucking dream was that?

Jean flinched under his gaze. “I’m sorry,” she said, turning, ears drooping.

“No, no no no,” he said, grabbing his shirt and jeans from the other side of the bed. “I’ll go. Hang on.”

He pulled on his clothes hurriedly. Jean stood by the door, hesitating, and stepped aside to let him pass when he approached. He stopped in the doorway, looking at her, her eerie red eyes and her strangely elongated face.

“Um, Dad?” she asked, ears flattening again. “Are you okay?”

Something broke, and before truly deciding anything he was hugging her, arms tight around her torso, fighting the blockage in his throat. Everything was wrong and nothing made any fucking sense. But at least she was there. She was alive. And she’d still be there tomorrow.

“Yeah,” he said. Slowly he let go of her, exhaling. “You know you’re beautiful and I love you, right?”

Her awkward, confused smile turned into a broad grin. “I love you too, Dad.”

He ruffled her hair. “Let’s get you that cereal.”

He stepped out into the living room, and – Lucy. Lucy was there. Why was she here? He stared at her for another long moment of confusion and… Right. The Kerrigans had asked him to look after her while they were at some overnight thing. Sometime, back in the ancient past, yesterday.

“Hey, I was… just about to go get some cereal. Did you want anything?”

Lucy locked eyes with him, hypnotic red and yellow, and in a stomach-churning freefall moment he was gripped with a powerful, burning sense that she knew, she knew everything, the time loop, all of it. That she’d gotten him out, or she’d caused it to happen in the first place, or some fucking bullshit that didn’t make any sense.

She gave an innocent smile. The sadness in her eyes had never quite left her since Mia’s death, but right now, in some strange way, it had retreated just a little.

“I’m okay,” she said. “Thank you.”

“Lucy, what the—”

Dave stopped and took a deep breath, the world still spinning and reeling in his head. Slowly, he lowered the hand he’d been raising.

He exhaled. “Yeah. Okay. You know my number if you remember anything.”

Lucy smiled gratefully. He looked at her for another breath.

“While I’m out, why don’t you think about what you want to do later, okay?” he said. “Just… Let’s all do something fun, all right?”

“Are you?” Lucy asked, her eyes surveying him carefully. It took him a moment to connect what she meant. Another moment to work out what the answer was.

He nodded slowly. “Yeah, I’m okay.”

The air outside was thick with morning traffic but less oppressive than the air he’d breathed in years. Above, the skies were clear.

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Thanks for reading if you have been! I'll try to respond to reviews later, after Blitz is over, but I hugely appreciate it if you've taken the time to read this, and would greatly appreciate hearing your thoughts.
 
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“Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”
Oh Dave, this line is gonna get old fast
It was almost too early for bed, really, but he just wanted this fucking day to end.
I'll take 'Words that will come back to bite you, for $500' :copyka:
Fucking déjà vu. That was all it was, hypersensitive pattern-matching grabbing a vague memory of something kind of similar from the dream and insisting it was exactly the same. He’d… he’d probably heard them through his sleep when they’d left or something, and his brain had made up the rest. Fuck, it’d felt real, though.
Man I love how quickly Dave switches to rationalizing and trying to explain it all, very scientifically. Because of course a timeloop won't make sense.

Oh Dave...
“I mean, if you want to get into that, him dying is a fuckload better than him and all of you too.”
Man this is so harsh but painful, and so true in a way. Dave is trying to be rational here, and of course one dying is better than everyone. It stings because its not untrue, and the idea of trying to find a magic way to save everyone is absurd. But its also a telling line, because Dave cares so much about them that its easier to accept one death than several.
Jean didn’t come out of it a misproportioned, furry mess; she came out of it in a body bag.
This line hits like a truck :unquag:
Okay, okay, what the fuck. Science and rationality. Just pattern-matching, for fuck’s sake. For this kind of thing to mean anything, you’d have to predict what’d happen ahead of time. What did he remember of the dream, exactly? Cheryl had knocked on the door and said…

“Kids? Are you awake?”

A fluke. Just a couple of words
Uh oh spaghettio

Something punched Dave in the lung. He blinked as something sharp stung in the wake of the punch, squeezed the trigger again and again as everything became warm and wet and he couldn’t breathe. The other man collapsed as the gun clicked uselessly. Dave tried to take a step forward only for the power to leave his legs, sending him crumpling to the floor.

The gun clattered against the stone; he tried to reach for it, but all he could see was his fingers twitching uselessly in a spreading pool of blood, and the other man further away, eyes glassy and frozen and staring unblinkingly back at him from a lifeless, blood-splattered face.

There was a strange, cold numbness spreading through him as he struggled to breathe, to squirm towards the gun. The more his lungs tried to pull in oxygen, the more the taste of blood rose in his throat. He tried to cough and everything hurt. This had been a really, really fucking stupid idea. Why’d he ever thought this’d fucking work? (Maybe he hadn’t, really.)
Ohhhhh this entire sequence right here was delicious. Peak whump. I like how the word pain isn't really used in this bit, but rather we get of host of other sensations. And man does this punch all the right whump buttons.

Also oof for Dave. His first instinct was just to go and take care of the problem, which relatable frankly.
The first thing that flew into his head was to just walk out right now, drive to the nearest shooting range, practice until they closed, and then go to sleep, rinse and repeat, until he could waltz in there like a fucking action hero and dispose of the fuckers. Hell, apparently, if he failed he could just try again. Easy. Why not?

And yet, he didn’t move. His throat tightened with blood that wasn’t there, a coppery smell in his nostrils, quickening heartbeat thumping in his ears, lifeless, glassy eyes staring back and nausea rising in the back of his mouth, and he stayed rooted to the couch.
I'm so glad this bit is in the story because this was my exact thought at first. If I was stuck in a timeloop why not spend every waking moment becoming the most perfect action hero.

But then he makes a good counterpoint. Even if you did do this, would it make a better future for the morphs? Would it feel good to even kill them or solve the core problem? probably not.
And then, he was back on the sofa.
:unquag:

What an excellent start. No waste for words, just whump and angst straight on through. I love Dave's progression from rationalization, to that surge of rage, and then a sort of desperation mixed with that feeling of being utterly lost and finally giving up. Also the constant weight of it, and the exhaustion Dave experiences is so palpable. How many times has he had to identify the same body, hear the same words, go through the same thing, listen to the same annoying voices.

Also I really like the little interaction with Mia, just trying to get her to imagine a hypothetical, and take a practical approach. Its interesting to me how this might be the factor that pushes him over the edge into not caring because this is the most practical way to reset the loop.

By the time he gets to the end and pulls the trigger I get it. Its gotta just get so annoying. The same thing over and over... Poor Dave, but also, great for me, the reader.

He’d had some practice at that by now.
Oh boy, what a spicy line
“Earlier while we were driving I was thinking about what Katherine would taste like. Maybe the chlorophyll would make her taste like a plant. But that’s just in the skin, so if you removed it the flesh would probably be more like normal meat.”
Disturbing but kind of valid? Honestly it tracks, also reminds me of the creepy age old 'do plant pokemon taste like plant or meat' :unquag:
“Right. Okay. But…” He took a deep breath. “Just hang on for a bit. Please.”
Man poor Dave, I can really get such a sense of how weary he is to be begging Mia for a moment to just stay on the phone. Just a moment of repreive, anything to get his mind of everything, savor a moment, make it mean something.
He was so, so fucking tired.

Dave took another breath to say something, and it came out wordless and wavering. The next a trembling sob.

He removed the phone from his ear. “Dave?” said Mia’s voice on the other end.

For a moment he stared at the phone, teeth clenched, trying to blink the blur from his vision, body helplessly shuddering. He wavered over the end call button for a few seconds, throat tightening.

“Dave?” she said again.

Fuck. He punched the button, put the phone down by the sink with a clatter and curled up on the toilet lid, head in his arms, waiting.

It took a few agonizing minutes before his body had wrung itself dry, everything aching and swollen and wound. He wiped his face off with a few squares of toilet paper and then sat squeezing the wad, limbs shaking and powerless.

His phone started vibrating again on the counter. He picked it up and answered.
Auugghh this whole bit is so well written. trying to keep it together, finally cracking, hanging up and just completely breaking down. Such good emotional angst here.
“Jack, for fuck’s sake, nobody wants to leave him to die. Do you want to get everyone else killed a dozen fucking times? Because, congratulations, you already did.”
Man this entire conversation was so spicy, the sheer weight of it slowly settling in for the kids that Dave must have done this dozens of times, and that they've died dozens of times. Also i loved that jack realizes that this means from his perspective Dave doesn't care what happens. Very juicy drama.

There's a particular sort of ansgt in realizing someone else is going through a timeloop and thinking about what happened to you in all the other loops.

Dave pressed his lips together. Had Jack always been this fucking cynical? In a flash he imagined just letting them go, whatever, seeing if he could have a better version of this conversation, or not have it at all, just figure out something else that wasn’t trying to convince a bunch of kids he was a fucking sci-fi character.

He rested his forehead on his palm. It didn’t even make any fucking sense, not at this point. Every previous batch of kids was already gone, either killed or wiped out by the reset or in some inaccessible alternate universe. Why should he even get attached to any one set of them? What was the fucking point of any of this?
This is exactly the juicy sort of angst I came for. I love the existensialism that crops up in a timeloop situation. You're going to relive a situation over and over so at what point do they begin to not mean as much? When do you stop caring? How do you keep caring? Whats the point?
She was also as good as eight fucking years old. A horrid weight twisted in his stomach.
Ohhhh oh no....
“It…” Dave swallowed. “It might be worth a shot.”
I just love thinking about the contrast between firt loop Dave and this one, how he'd never consider it first time around probably but this time, after so many failed tries, why not?

I like how the first part seems to focus on a sort of isolated despair and raging against the situation, while part 2 evolves into a situation of trying to confront the loop with some more teamwork sort of, and trying to work through it. There's this shift in mindset of accepting the situation more, trying to evolve and find new ways to approach it.

The emotional beats of solving the loop and solving a way to convince the kids they're in a loop were really satisfying. I like how bits of each the kids personalities come through here. Logicing Mia, convincing Jack, and how frightfully eager Jean still is.

There's also a delightful overarching sense of Dave both accepting and becoming desensitized to the loop.

Her brows knitted together. “How can I help?” she asked.
In light of the end I found this very interesting (this is my second read through)

“What are you going to do if it doesn’t?” Lucy asked, hypnotic eyes unblinking.

He took a deep breath.

“Well, then we’d just have to save them again.”

“Even if it won’t work?”

“Well, if we can do it once, we can try again. Guess I’ll get it down to a fucking art. Shortest conversation that’ll get you on board, go.”
Man this conversation hits so hard. Even here, its truly never been an option for Dave not to try and do something. Even in his bitterness and despair, he's just so certain he'll do it again, but still sort of locked into this mindsight for now about not really thinking about, and not thinking about why.

Everyone was safe. Gabriel was safe.
The bittersweet of this line, especially with the dread of not knowing if this will end the loop. yet it felt so relieving

“Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”
The absolute dread this line inspires now. Ouch.

So what’s another fucking lifetime of this?”
This line hurts but says so so much. How many lives would you give for love? All of them. All of them every time perhaps.

“I… I always wished they’d shot you instead of my dad,” he blurted out quietly, in one breath, like a secret he’d never before been drunk enough to expel.

A cold, awful chill went through Dave’s veins. Dumb, really. It wasn’t surprising. It wasn’t even fucking wrong.

He didn’t answer. Gabriel sat there, braced for something, shoulders tensed, like he expected to be yelled at. Dave’s knuckles tightened on the steering wheel.

“Well, who fucking doesn’t?” he said.
Its so interesting to see how the timeloop has made Dave lower his filter even more than he usually has.

Its such a brutal and raw line, and moments like this are what make this story hit so hard.

Dave pointed his eyes firmly back at the road. Just drive, just fucking drive. Next time he would keep his fucking mouth shut. Or maybe next time he’d give Gabriel what he wanted and next time after that he’d keep his fucking mouth shut.
Man I love these harsh glimpses of Dave's internal thoughts.

“Well, I’m just going to have to keep saving them better. I’m the good fucking timeline factory and that’s all there is.”
Ughhh this is killing me, he's just so certain. So determined in spite of everything, bitter but relentless.

“If I keep doing it then there’s one more evening where you’re all there, and one more timeline where you’re all okay, even if I’m not fucking in it.” His voice shook helplessly, his efforts to steady it scrabbling uselessly for purchase. “That’s what matters. It’s all I’ve got. There’s nothing else.”
Don't mind me just,,, cutting onions yeah,,,, 😭
He meant to say something like yeah, why not, it’s been a day, hasn’t it. His brain struggled to gather the energy.

“Please,” he said instead, voice wavering.
Gosh what a line
He nodded slowly. “Yeah, I’m okay.”

The air outside was thick with morning traffic but less oppressive than the air he’d breathed in years. Above, the skies were clear.
What an ending.

I've been waiting ages and this sure delivered. (I am infinitely thankful I ended up reading Morphic some months ago).

I have a ton of feelings that ultimately amount to "OUUGGHHHHH good whump" and "OOUGHHAAA im feeling things". A lot of just 'this gud' and trying to think how to express it hah.

Oh and 'dadgum this is the perfect length but I also wanted this to never end'.

On a more serious note, I think this fic is top tier as a character exploration of Dave and the morphs. There's a ton to unpack in each segment. I honestly feel like every line is something thats interesting to think about, and its the sort of fic i would see myself reading several times.
I think my favorite part however, is the ending. Dave spent so much of the first two runs fighting to get a 'perfect end' where everyone lives, but once he did, the loop didn't reset. A lot of the fun in a timeloop can be reaching that specific point, the 'best' run. So its of particular fun to me to read what a timeloop story does once the ideal run has been achieved.

If it doesn't break the loop (and assuming the way to break it isn't even concrete), what next? And thats the true question for Dave. My favorite part was honestly reading how each conversation with Lucy changed slightly each time. The evolution from Dave being annoyed and angry as a defense mechanism to the final moment when he's talking with Lucy when he finally accepts that this is it. Admits it. That no matter how many times it takes he'll do it all all over again for them, enduring whatever it takes so they come home. And because from Dave's point of view he doesn't know how the loop works, he's willing to fight for every chance possible to give them a good timeline.

To make sure they all live, and he gets just one more day with them. Wrenches my heart right out. Because at the end of the day, that seems to be the true 'message' of the fic. Dave, despite whatever else he's got going on, will always fight for the kids. He doesn't matter, as far as he's concerned. Just them, and making sure maybe just maybe they can have a future.

If its true that Lucy either did it, or subconsciously had some influence, I like that in a rather twisted way it gave him a bit of peace? Dave has finally come to terms with himself, to fully realize how hard he would fight and how long he would fight. Dave might be grouchy, angry, defensive and filled with bad coping mechanisms but he does love them. But in a way he never fully conceptualized that I think. Now he got a chance to know that about himself.

Here at the end, he's both accepted that for himself and he's kind of got a few more good days with the kids. But its also so bitterwsweet and heart wrenching. To think of the ways in which you could have done better and made things different. And that Dave doesn't get the perfect end. Which really, is on a meta level the exact point. I'm glad that he could get that glimmer of hope at the end.🥺

Truly an exquisitely delightful piece of writing.
 

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I’ve been waiting for this fic for a LONGGGGG time. And…oh man. It hits like a truck. I knew it was going to be a huge ball of whump and angst and emotion, but there are so many absolutely raw lines that I was still so unprepared for. You know how to hit where it hurts in unexpected ways.

She leaned against the door to the girls’ room and gave it a careful knock. “Kids? Are you awake?”

Silence. So somehow the kids were sleeping just fine. Good for them.
Hnnngh when you already know where this is heading, the complete silence here is awful on so many levels. Ugh.

Eventually exhaustion got the better of him. After he woke with a start some time later and nearly toppled the chair over, he dragged himself over to his bedroom. It was almost too early for bed, really, but he just wanted this fucking day to end. Maybe, hopefully, tomorrow he could actually think.
This so perfectly illustrates that numb, foggy, almost mindless state of shock. Nothing is really sinking in just yet, and he’s sort of stumbling through it almost like a zombie, too stunned and tired to do much else.

“Hi, Dad!” said Jean cheerfully.

“Jean, what the fuck do you think you’re doing? Get back here right now.”

“We’re saving Gabriel! We took the Harrisons’ car, and Katherine could totally drive it all the way over here! And Felicia can smell Gabriel, so we’re gonna go and torch all the bad guys!”
Oh, Jean. I have always adored her sweet, naive, bubbly personality. In the context of this fic, though, it’s painful. She’s gleefully tagging along to her death, and/or the death of her friends, and she’s completely none the wiser. To her, it’s just a grand, heroic adventure! …Until it isn’t. This seems to add an extra layer of desperation for Dave—he doesn’t just want to save their lives, but he wants to save their innocence, too.

Jean didn’t come out of it a misproportioned, furry mess; she came out of it in a body bag.
Oh gosh this line was so brutally blunt. How dare you do this to me?!

Okay, okay, what the fuck. Science and rationality. Just pattern-matching, for fuck’s sake.
Lolol I love that you are always sticking Dave, the most rational (well…logically rational, not emotionally) and scientifically-minded man, in the most irrational and impossible to explain scenarios. Every time, he flounders as he tries to make sense of it. It really doesn’t get old, heh.

The drive was a blur; he wasn’t quite aware of himself until he’d parked somewhere by the side of the church, diagonally across at least two spaces, marched up to the door, and torn it open.
Yeah, this was bound to happen sooner or later. The mindless, reckless way he goes about it really shows just how desperate he is, but there’s quite a bit of irony in it, too—going in without much of a plan, guns blazing, is exactly what the kids end up doing in the original timeline, after all.

“Ow, let me go, I just –”

“Not until you tell me what the fuck is going on and leave my daughter alone.” He stared at her, and she stared back, her gaze deadly firm. He’d never seen her quite this angry, and that sobered him a bit. He took a breath, his arm throbbing.
Yeah, I don’t blame her for being protective of her daughter—especially considering she’s the only one who actually stayed behind in a safe place. Could Dave ever get the other adults on board with the time loop stuff, eventually?

Cheryl glanced around silently. “Dave,” she said, loosening her grip on him slightly but not letting him go. “I think you should probably get a bit more rest.”
Hah, yeah, that’s an expected reaction.

It had to be possible to fix this. Somehow, he could make them turn back. And he had… his stomach did a queasy flip, but he could probably experiment. It’d all be reset anyway. He could do one thing, see what the consequences were, then do something else next time. It was a perfect setup, wasn’t it? Infinite replication with all variables identical, except for whatever he chose to change?
Man, the sheer resolve (or desperation, or both) to decide to keep throwing himself at the situation even after experiencing a slow and agonizing death really is something. He sucks at showing it, and sucks even more at verbalizing it, but he would quite literally do anything for these kids.

Okay. Perhaps this wasn’t the best starting point. But that was fine. He had time. This was fine.
Dave, the president of TR’s “I’m Fine” Club, everybody!

Any time he warned Jean off the Fire Stone, everything somehow turned out worse.
Oh, man. This is never really explored, but I have to wonder why that is. Does Jean get in the way somehow? Fumble something at a crucial moment that gets everyone killed? It’s a chilling detail, honestly.

It crept up on him, finally, as he sat by Mia’s bedside once again, agitatedly trying to fall asleep on the hard chair, that technically he had a much quicker way to reset.
😬 yeah, only a matter of time before he reached this conclusion, too. Hhhh

“I just keep replaying it all in my head, wondering if there was anything we could have done,” she said, quieter, only barely audible through the door.
Hah…oh, Cheryl, you don’t know the half of it.

“Really?” Jean gasped over the phone. There was a little note of disappointment behind the relief in her voice. God, Jean.
Jean, PLS 😂 Girl, you are going to be the death of your father. (And potentially the death of many others if you don’t pull back, HHHHH)

He held Jean, okay and fine and normal, for a long time, and didn’t have the voice to say anything at all.
😭 ugh these moments where he’s just so vulnerable and tender with Jean make my heart hurt and heal at the same time. The sheer relief at having them back safe, but also the dread because it’s not all of them—I love that everything in this fic has an element of dread to it. Not even the good moments are safe, because they’ll just get reset over and over again.

Jack stared at Dave mutely for a moment. Then he screamed and lunged. Dave let go of Jean, shoving her out of the way just before Jack’s fist barreled into his stomach. He staggered backward, wind knocked out of him, and before he could do anything at all, Jack’s antennae lit up with electricity and swung into his shoulder. His muscles seized up, everything cramping, and he hit the floor hard, teeth clamping down on the edge of his tongue.
Some electric shock whump, I see! >:) Gosh, that’s so tough. I can’t say Dave didn’t deserve that for lying to all of them, but at the same time…I don’t blame him for doing it, either. These kids just have absolutely no clue how much is at stake here.

“Hello?” came Gabriel’s voice, panicked as whatever had covered his mouth was removed. “Help! Someone, please, he’s—”

There was a gunshot, and then dead silence.
Oh. :( Man, as if Dave didn’t already have enough trauma from all of this. That’s not something you can unhear.

He pulled out the gun. When someone screamed his name, he was already squeezing the trigger.

Maybe, he managed to think before the bang, this was how to get out of it all along. Maybe this was just it, and it’d be over.

And then, he was back on the sofa.
Boy I sure hope all the timelines where he committed suicide didn’t continue, because…yikes. Even bigger yikes here though, because he didn’t even retreat to somewhere private to do it. Just pulled the trigger in front of everybody, jeez.


Probably best to just end it before it got to the point where anyone died. He’d had some practice at that by now.
oof that last line. So blunt and matter-of-fact. Like he’s grown numb to how many time he’s died already.

Jean is talking to him about her fire powers. She just said ‘I hope I learn all kinds of Fire moves when I grow up, like Eruption! Blast Burn! Blaze Kick!’ She kicked the air and almost fell over but Will grabbed her.”
Jean, baby girl, please. 😂😭 This is just a game to her! Like she’s LARPing an adventure. Channeling her inner movie star dreams for sure. And it hurts so freaking much, because she’s just so innocent and clueless to the absolute horror she’s throwing herself into and agh how dare you, Free 😭 how dare you make her so precious in the middle of all of this??

He took another breath, like that, with his face buried in his palm, slumped against the back of the toilet. “Can we just talk, for a bit?”
This part got me choked up a bit. He’s trying so, so hard to save them, and he’s desperate to have a normal moment, just one normal conversation, in the middle of all of this. One that isn’t life-or-death. One where he can just…enjoy Mia’s presence for a bit, before she’s ripped away again and again.

(“You’re in a time loop?!” Jean gasped somewhere in the background, like it was the coolest thing ever. This girl was going to be the death of him.)
LOLLL that’s what I said 😂 I love Jean so much, dangit

“Jack, for fuck’s sake, nobody wants to leave him to die. Do you want to get everyone else killed a dozen fucking times? Because, congratulations, you already did.”
Woof, that was harsh. But I don’t blame him, either. Jack is pretty dang cynical and stubborn and difficult to work with, and after seeing the result countless times, Dave doesn’t have much patience to give anymore. (He never had much to begin with, let’s be real.)

Why should he even get attached to any one set of them? What was the fucking point of any of this?
This stabbed at my heart, but I am so, so glad he never goes down this route. Sure, there are a few timelines where he sort of gives up, but he never stops caring. Even if that would be the easiest way out of the suffering. He doesn’t ever consider actively trying to detach himself, not once, and if that doesn’t tell you how much these kids mean to him, then I don’t know what would.

Was he really even fucking contemplating this?

“It…” Dave swallowed. “It might be worth a shot.”
I completely forgot that Lucy was so much younger. What a tough situation to be in, but…she really is their best option.


He imagined who it might be. Cheryl, probably. Asking what the fuck he was doing with her daughter, was he mad, where did he think he was going. What would he even tell her, anyway? Don’t worry, I’m in a time loop? I’m sorry but I tried fucking everything else? Just personally bringing Lucy into danger too, she’s the only one who hasn’t fucking died yet?
The last line 😭 he feels so awful about this, but he’s backed into a corner. And yeah, Cheryl will have every right to rip him to pieces when they come back, because I would be livid, too. But, again, I can’t blame Dave. This poor guy has tried every alternative he can think of.

Some exhausted part of Dave’s brain didn’t want to do anything. Just stay here and hold her, savor this moment of the kids just being alive and well.
Another moment of tenderness. 💛 He finally, finally managed to stop them from going, but at what cost? Hhhh

Then, suddenly, the boom of a gunshot. He stiffened in his seat, blood running cold, a sharp spike of adrenaline piercing through him. Another. And another four in quick succession.

Silence stretched on, his heart thundering in his chest. Confused shouts in the distance. His knuckles tight on the wheel.

Than more gunshots. Fuck. Fuck.
hhhhh the sheer dread and anxiety in this scene was off the charts. The combination of stillness and silence, occasionally peppered with gunshots, made the whole thing so vivid to me. I think I held my breath here, lol

“No! I…” He looked away, uncomfortably. “I mean, a little. But then Lucy appeared and knocked him out, so I stopped.”

Jesus. Would they have to deal with someone with second- or third-degree burns? Easy to use that to present the Pokémorphs as a danger even if no one had died.
Bruh, he was literally a hostage? Surely if Lucy’s actions could be written as self-defense, then Gabriel’s could be, too! Ridiculous that they even have to think about the repercussions like that. These poor kids can’t do a thing without it coming back to bite them, somehow.

Dave sank into the sofa as the barrage of questions died down, all energy gone somewhere in it all. He wanted to sleep, for a thousand years. But if he slept, probably it’d all be gone by morning.
Yeah, there it is 🥲 they finally did it, but poor Dave can’t even feel relieved or triumphant about any of it, because he can’t trust that it won’t just disappear anyway.

“Dave. Dave, wake up. We should check on the kids, see how they’re holding up.”
UGH. 😭 I knew this was going to happen, but it doesn’t make the reset any less painful.

“I… I always wished they’d shot you instead of my dad,” he blurted out quietly, in one breath, like a secret he’d never before been drunk enough to expel.

A cold, awful chill went through Dave’s veins. Dumb, really. It wasn’t surprising. It wasn’t even fucking wrong.

He didn’t answer. Gabriel sat there, braced for something, shoulders tensed, like he expected to be yelled at. Dave’s knuckles tightened on the steering wheel.

“Well, who fucking doesn’t?” he said.
Oh MAN. I remember you sharing this snippet in TR discord a while ago, and I was very [copyka] over it, haha. But boyyy the copykas increase tenfold after reading it with the full context. These kids have no idea what Dave has gone through to save their hides—but what hits hardest is that Dave doesn’t even feel an ounce of indignation or anger at this comment, not even for a second. Instead, he fully agrees with it, and Gabriel seems to finally begin to understand just how…well, not okay he is.

In other words, Dave is a perfectly Fine and well-adjusted, healthy individual! Nothing to see here!


“Lucy,” he managed to say. “I’m not going to stop.”

His throat was still aching, burning, eyes prickling uncomfortably.

“Why?” she asked, quiet.

“Because…” His voice came out strangled, dying before he could finish the word. He pressed his lips together, staring out at the road.

Lucy’s gaze was steady on him in the rear-view mirror, questioning.

“Because I need to keep doing it. I need you, all of you, alive, or there’s no fucking point.”

And this is why, at the end of the day, I can’t help but love Dave. He’s a blazing mess, he’s rude and selfish and constantly makes his horrible mental health a problem that others have to deal with, he’s awful at showing vulnerability or sincerity and he’s not about to improve on any of that anytime soon. But he cares. He cares so much, and for all his dickishness, he’ll still throw himself in front of a freight train if it means keeping the kids safe. I just love characters that care and love and fear for the safety of their loved ones, but are at a complete loss as to how to show it. That’s the good stuff.

“Well, I’m not leaving until you say you want me to,” she said firmly.

He breathed in and out. Stroked her hair, numb, the knot in his chest tightening.

“Hey, Jean,” he managed to say eventually. “How about we just… stay up and watch a movie for a bit?”
I love this and hate it at the same time. It’s so nice to see them spend some time together, just enjoying each others’ company, but I can’t help but feel he’s proposing this largely because he knows it won’t last and he just wants to make the most of it while he can.

She dozed off halfway through the movie, head resting on his shoulder, arm still draped around his neck, the bowl of popcorn lying empty in his lap. He stroked her hair carefully and listened to her heartbeat until, sometime, without realizing, he drifted off too.
Definitely the most peaceful end of any loop we’ve seen yet. I’d be lying if I said there wasn’t a small part of me that hoped this would truly be the end of the time loop and that everything would be okay again. Wishful thinking, I know, but man…I just want that for all of them. Unfortunately, things don’t always work out the way we want.

Lucy locked eyes with him, hypnotic red and yellow, and in a stomach-churning freefall moment he was gripped with a powerful, burning sense that she knew, she knew everything, the time loop, all of it. That she’d gotten him out, or she’d caused it to happen in the first place, or some fucking bullshit that didn’t make any sense.
Ooooh this paragraph has me churning through so many different theories in my head. Lucy mentioned she knew Pain Split as one of her moves; what if the use of Pain Split, with Dave as her target, is what caused the time loop somehow? Probably done unconsciously, and it seems she wasn’t even aware of the time loop while it was happening, so maybe Dave was the only one because she used the move on him specifically? My mind goes to Pain Split because I’m thinking of emotional pain; the pain of losing her sister, of seeing her dead body and Will’s body and everybody’s injuries, gory sights that Dave never actually saw himself. Why she would choose Dave, though, I have no idea. Maybe because she knew he loved Mia as much as she did? Maybe because she had a subconscious hope that he would figure out a way to save her—save all of them?

Anyway, the ending is fascinating to me, and I love that it’s a bit open-ended to leave room for all kinds of theories and speculation.

Man, this is some VERY tasty whump and angst, I feel like I just feasted. 😂 It’s so wonderfully executed, and it’s a heck of a deep-dive on Dave himself, and just how deeply he cares. Probably more than he ever realized, himself.

Good stuff! This was well worth the wait. 💛
 

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Happy birthday! For the occasion, I reread this fic and wrote you an inordinately long review of everything I could think to say as I went along ❤️

Dave clutched his head in his hands for a few seconds as his brain throbbed. Maybe he shouldn’t have drunk quite this much last night. Not that he was sure exactly how much it’d been; most of the evening was, thankfully, a murky cloud by now.
Oh, Dave, of course you drunk away most of the evening after learning Gabriel had been kidnapped. Have fun repeating this hangover ad-infinitum! :copyka2:

He rubbed his eyes before opening them, wincing as he blinked. The morning sunlight made its way mercilessly past even the firmly drawn curtains, casting cruel strips of blinding light on the white walls. Fuck the sun.
"Fuck the sun" is such wonderful Dave energy, I love it :mewlulz:

Silence. So somehow the kids were sleeping just fine. Good for them.
There's something subtly bitter about this, because I don't believe Dave would think "good for them" if he unironically meant it. A part of him's just indignant at the notion that they could not be freaking out about this as much as he is, and he's low-key taking it out on them, even though he should think it's genuinely good for them if they actually did manage to sleep okay!

Jean, exhausted after crying for hours, fell asleep at the Kerrigans’ house, and he took her home and put her into bed and then tossed the gun into a drawer and sat by her bedside for a while, squeezing the armrests of a hastily-moved chair, watching her alien new form breathing contentedly and somehow loathing it with every fiber of his being.
Aww, look at Dave being a protective parent, just instinctively wanting to watch over Jean forever to reassure himself that she's still there and make sure no fuckwads somehow swoop in here and do something worse to her, even though that's an irrational worry at this point.

Also I love that "somehow" in how he hates her new form. He knows he shouldn't, because it's still her and he doesn't want to be like the assholes who treat her badly because she looks different, but right now it's just an indelible reminder of how messed-up everything is. If she still looked the same, he'd at least be able to pretend that things are normal and none of that just happened.


It's very Dave that the first place his mind goes to try and make sense of things on the second day is to assume day 1 was just a dream, and then deja vu based on the dream, since that really is the most rational possible explanation. Phil never quite spent that long entertaining that idea in particular, did he (but then again, he didn't wake up in a different place like Dave and so had less of an obvious initial clue that events weren't just continuing as expected).

Anyway, man, Dave sure is glad that his kids dying and being injured and horribly disfigured and traumatised was just a fucked up dream! good thing that's not gonna actually happen. again, and again, and

The others waited, silent, as he dug out his cellphone and dialed her number. In the dream, he remembered distinctly, he’d told the kids they were keeping Gabriel at the church, for some godforsaken reason. He sure as hell wasn’t doing that for real.
Small victories of the timeloop: Dave gets to realise that the disaster wasn't really his fault for accidentally telling them where to go, because they'd have gone there anyway even if he hadn't. (At least, assuming he remembers this detail once it's over, maybe not.)

“I mean, if you want to get into that, him dying is a fuckload better than him and all of you too.” Jack didn’t answer that one, probably rightly.
Oof. Dave didn't say anything quite to that effect in the original timeline, did he. Also I am realising from this: Dave didn't realise from day 1 that Gabriel was even necessarily going to pull through, so for all he knew they did all that and got themselves killed and injured for no actual gain whatsoever, ouch.

Sure. In the dream, it was kind of a blur but he was pretty sure Gabriel had just… spontaneously developed fire powers and fucking straight-up murdered some guy. That definitely wasn’t happening, on multiple levels.
Haha, yeah, that was just some fucked-up dream bullshit, no way Gabriel could actually be capable of something like that, right??? (I guess since Gabriel was in critical condition, he was never in any state to explain to anyone how he discovered his powers, otherwise Dave would understand and accept the possibility of it better.) And definitely no need to think about how Gabriel might be psychologically capable of murdering a guy and it's not just Mia who's like that, nope!!!!

There was a long silence on the other end. “All right,” Jack said at last. “Fine. We’ll come back.”
First time I read this, I just knew Jack wasn't going to be coming back. He is not going to give up that easily on what feels like his only chance to save Gabriel. Jaaaack <3

“Good, you’d better. And, uh…” This was incredibly dumb, but the image of the thing that Jean had become in that dream was still fucking unsettling. “By the way, you know you all shouldn’t touch evolution stones with your bare hands, right? For all we know it could make your organs explode out of your chest. Just… don’t do that.”

Jack paused. “What?”
That sure must have seemed extremely weird from Jack's perspective, lmao. And yet, seems like this did prime him enough to make him actually think twice before handing the Fire Stone off to just anyone.

They didn’t come home. Somehow they managed to figure out who the kidnappers were and where they would be anyway (Dave had a horrible suspicion that Mia was involved), and they stormed the church.
I enjoy the "horrible" there. Of course if anyone figured it out it'd have been Mia, and Dave hates knowing that she casually enabled this despite the obvious risks just so that she'd get to fight and maybe kill some guys.

restlessly watching Cheryl and Howard as they hugged each other close, pale and exhausted and weeping, like a cliché out of the latest inevitable award-bait tragedy-porn flick.
oh my god, Dave is so chronically allergic to displays of sincere emotion and vulnerability and human connection

“Why’d you let them go?” he asked when he couldn’t stand it anymore. Lucy turned slowly, blinking, but said nothing.

“Dave,” Cheryl said sharply.

“You’ve got… you can do more creepy Pokémon shit than any of them.” He waved a hand vaguely, voice shaking, anger boiling in his lungs. “Why’d you just watch them fucking go?”

“Dave,” Cheryl repeated, her voice icy. “Don’t take this out on her.”
Sowing the seeds for Dave to eventually think about actually getting Lucy's help! And also setting up the narrative thread of him taking his emotions out on the kids when they're the last people he should be lashing out at.

Howard sighed deeply, shaking his head with his face in his hands, so pathetic-looking that Dave almost felt sorry for him. Almost.
oh my god, Dave's pathetic jealousy at Howard for being the one to marry Cheryl is still here even at a time like this, of course it is

But it was no use saying sorry to empty air. Wouldn’t fix anything anyway, for her or anyone else.
Yeah, no point saying sorry if it won't fix things, right? It's not like he should be apologising anyway for his own sake, to admit that he regrets lashing out at the people he loves and remind himself to stop doing so in future, nah.

“I…” He stared at the others, standing in exactly the positions he remembered them. “Okay,” he croaked as he rose to his feet. Okay, okay, what the fuck. Science and rationality. Just pattern-matching, for fuck’s sake. For this kind of thing to mean anything, you’d have to predict what’d happen ahead of time. What did he remember of the dream, exactly? Cheryl had knocked on the door and said…
Love how Dave, thrust into the most ridiculous-ass scenarios like he always seems to be in anything that isn't canon Morphic, will always instinctively attempt to Science Things Out... which usually just results in proving to him that he is, indeed in a completely ridiculous-ass scenario that science cannot begin to explain.

Dave’s ears rang as everything melted together, voices echoing incoherently as blood pounded in his ears. Before he knew it he’d turned, stormed out the door and slammed it behind him, glaring daggers at the gray, cloudy sky.

“You think this is funny, huh? Think this’ll make me come crawling back?” His voice shook with rage. “Well, why doesn’t every other motherfucker who loses his kids get a second fucking chance, huh? You couldn’t use your almighty fucking magic to tell your shitbag worshippers not to murder kids the first fucking time? You couldn’t spare one fucking second to cure malaria instead of fucking with me? Fuck you!”
It is so deliciously Dave that his immediate first instinct upon accepting he really is in a time loop of the day his kids die is to latch onto the idea that this is somehow God, that deity who definitely doesn't exist, deciding to fuck with him personally out of spite, and raging impotently about it. Fuck your god, indeed.

The sky didn’t answer. Dave took a deep, agitated breath, then another.

Fuck. Whatever was really going on here, he wasn’t this far gone.
...And then moments later, once he's got the initial kneejerk rage (from the helpless horror at being in this situation) out of his system, he's immediately back to, nope, of course he's not bonkers enough to actually believe this could be God doing it, that'd be ridiculous.

Cheryl opened as soon as he knocked, giving him a look that said oh, Christ, she’d heard him, hadn’t she. “Never fucking mind,” he said, whirling back and making a beeline for his car.
And then instead of having to deal with trying to somehow explain whatever the fuck that outburst was to Cheryl of all people, nah, he's off to go shoot some fuckers dead instead, that's a way easier option in this situation. Right?

diagonally across at least two spaces
I am amused by the irony of his terrible parking given that he's later going to give Katherine grief for parking badly. At least you've got normal human hands and a driver's license, Dave, what's your excuse. :mewlulz:

His hand trembled as he aimed, jerked with the unfamiliar recoil, and the bullet shattered a stained-glass window. The next one hit, somewhere; the man jerked backwards and then swung his gun arm back around and pulled the trigger.
Love him trembling and missing with the first shot, and evidently not hitting anywhere immediately fatal with the second, because, despite his rage, he does not actually enjoy or want to be murdering people at all, oh Dave.

Something punched Dave in the lung. He blinked as something sharp stung in the wake of the punch, squeezed the trigger again and again as everything became warm and wet and he couldn’t breathe. The other man collapsed as the gun clicked uselessly. Dave tried to take a step forward only for the power to leave his legs, sending him crumpling to the floor.

The gun clattered against the stone; he tried to reach for it, but all he could see was his fingers twitching uselessly in a spreading pool of blood, and the other man further away, eyes glassy and frozen and staring unblinkingly back at him from a lifeless, blood-splattered face.
I can tell you're having a lot of fun writing this. :copyka: this is some very tasty, very you gunshot whump

There was a strange, cold numbness spreading through him as he struggled to breathe, to squirm towards the gun. The more his lungs tried to pull in oxygen, the more the taste of blood rose in his throat. He tried to cough and everything hurt. This had been a really, really fucking stupid idea. Why’d he ever thought this’d fucking work? (Maybe he hadn’t, really.)
Oh man, that last parenthetical. A part of Dave just suicidally wanting to go out in a blaze of manly glory where he takes some of those fuckers down with him and then he doesn't have to deal with any of the aftermath (maybe, hopefully)

He coughed again, gurgling blood, a stab of pain shooting through the numbness. His racing heartbeat thumped deafeningly in his ears. God, why wouldn’t it just fucking end? The other guy stared lifelessly back at him, and Dave tried to savour the small victory of taking one of them down with him, but all he could feel was nausea and spreading, throbbing agony.
Dave cannot get himself to feel good about killing a guy, even one of the guys who was gonna kill his kids. Also look at you making sure he died in the most slow and painful way possible, because of course you did =P

Somewhere in the distance, a door burst open. A scream – Katherine? Hands were shaking him, and he tried to tell them to go, just leave, but nothing happened. The last fuzzy thing he saw as the world began to fade, finally, was Mia’s face leaning down into his field of vision, frowning at him, like he’d just done something incredibly, incredibly dumb.
Lmao, that is such a perfectly Mia reaction. A far bigger priority than being dismayed that her favourite person is going to be dead is being annoyed at him for doing something so stupid.

I wonder how many of the kids died in this timeline? With one less zealot to deal with, maybe they had better odds - but on the other hand maybe they were distracted and horrified by the dying Dave and it went badly anyway.

(also poor Jean, shaken from the trauma of evolving and fleeing back home only to find her dad's gone out there and got himself killed too :sadwott:)

Day 3 is definitely one of the highlight days of this! Such a concentrated amount of Dave being his furiously terrible trashfire man self. :okgon:

And then he was back. He jerked awake, limbs flailing in Martha’s face as she tried to rouse him, his heart pounding, and sprang to his feet like the world’s most frazzled jack-in-the-box. He felt his chest – no holes, no blood, nothing – and only after staring at Martha’s baffled face for a moment did it properly sink in that it was that morning, again. It had rewound, again, and he wasn’t dead, and none of that had happened.
Enjoy Dave's reaction to waking up being influenced by the way the previous loop ended - namely, freaking out and flailing a lot more if he's just died. Reminds me of how Outer Wilds did something similar, with stuff like having the character wake up gasping hard if they suffocated on the previous loop.

“They went to save Gabriel,” Lucy said, and Dave marched into the room, grabbing her by the shoulders.

“Lucy. How do I fix it?”

She blinked at him in confusion. He shook her shoulders. “Lucy, I swear to fucking God, if you don’t tell me what’s going on and how I save them –”
Oops, lashing out at Lucy again! Sure is a thing that the most likely of the kids for him to end up lashing out at in this situation is also the functionally youngest of them who's least able to understand why he might be doing it. :copyka2:

The first thing that flew into his head was to just walk out right now, drive to the nearest shooting range, practice until they closed, and then go to sleep, rinse and repeat, until he could waltz in there like a fucking action hero and dispose of the fuckers. Hell, apparently, if he failed he could just try again. Easy. Why not?

And yet, he didn’t move. His throat tightened with blood that wasn’t there, a coppery smell in his nostrils, quickening heartbeat thumping in his ears, lifeless, glassy eyes staring back and nausea rising in the back of his mouth, and he stayed rooted to the couch.
Love how Dave can't actually bring himself to start enacting that plan, even though it would theoretically work, because a suppressed part of him doesn't want to die that horribly again, and especially doesn't want to murder somebody again, multiple somebodies, even when they're the fuckers who're trying to murder his kids.

What the fuck kind of plan would that be, anyway? Save them, and then get arrested and tried for a fucking mass shooting in a church? Imagine the goddamn headlines.
And then it's only after he has that instinctive nausea at the thought that he rationalises away that it'd be a stupid plan with a bad outcome for the kids anyway, and so that's why he's not gonna do it. You're not fooling anyone, Dave.

It had to be possible to fix this. Somehow, he could make them turn back. And he had… his stomach did a queasy flip, but he could probably experiment. It’d all be reset anyway. He could do one thing, see what the consequences were, then do something else next time. It was a perfect setup, wasn’t it? Infinite replication with all variables identical, except for whatever he chose to change?
Dave's gonna science this up! This really is an appropriate scenario for someone so scientifically-minded to end up in. :quag:

Okay. Perhaps this wasn’t the best starting point. But that was fine. He had time. This was fine.
Dave is fine, he has infinite time in the world to figure out how to save his kids, so how he feels about being trapped reliving this traumatic day for the foreseeable future isn't relevant, right? He is Fine.

For the next few goes, he tried calling Jean and saying different things. “Letting slip” that Gabriel was being held in a warehouse on the other side of town. They saw through it – Mia saw through it – and the same thing happened. Any time he warned Jean off the Fire Stone, everything somehow turned out worse.
That's got to sting so badly for Dave, the inexplicable fact that him influencing the Fire Stone variable always just makes things worse. Without knowing the causal reason why this is that we see in Dave and Mia Discuss Family, it's just gotta feel like the universe is spiting him. Oh, you wanted your daughter to not become traumatically disfigured? You wanted something nice, just one tiny thing? Fuck you, you get an even worse timeline just for trying.

It crept up on him, finally, as he sat by Mia’s bedside once again, agitatedly trying to fall asleep on the hard chair, that technically he had a much quicker way to reset.
It's probably not a coincidence that it's another no-Fire Stone timeline in which almost everyone dies, including Jean, that's the one on which the skip-ahead-by-suicide plan occurs to him, is it. :copyka2:

Yeah. Why not? He’d already died once. Be way fucking easier. He’d read enough at one point or another to not bungle it, to know where to shoot. Really it was a no-brainer.
Oh boy, it sure does say a lot that Dave's just, casually read up at one point on how to shoot oneself dead painlessly, doesn't it. :copyka2: I wonder when this was? Before the morphs? When he had Jean but before he'd properly grown to love her? Or would he even still have been indirectly entertaining this while being Jean's dad?

He didn’t move. The bile in the back of his throat tasted of blood.
And yet he still doesn't enjoy the thought of being shot and is having flashbacks to his horribly slow death by gunshot even though he knows he'd definitely do it quicker than that.

His gaze slid over to Mia, injured but alive this time around – not that it mattered, not that anything mattered when it’d all be erased in a few hours. She would tell him there was no reason not to, that he was just wasting his own time sitting here, trying to sleep in the world’s most uncomfortable chair. What was he even waiting for?
Look at him trying to use Mialogic to justify to himself why hesitating over the thought of shooting himself in the head is just stupid and illogical and obviously he should just go do it already.

By the time he finally had control of himself and his stomach had settled into a dull, passive ache, he was shaking. He pushed himself weakly to his feet, rinsed out his mouth in the sink and then rose up again in front of the mirror, supporting himself on the brim of the sink. (God, he looked like shit.)

He pulled the gun out from under his belt and lifted it to his temple. His hand trembled in the mirror, and he squeezed his eyes shut. Willed himself to pull the trigger. Nothing happened.
Mirror whump! ...I really do have to wonder what Dave thought he was going to accomplish by looking in the mirror while he attempted to do it. Definitely something that'll make the task easier. (But it's fine, since he went on to close his eyes, no big deal, don't worry about the persisting mental image of himself with a gun to his own head.)

This was dumb. Just fucking do it. He wouldn’t even actually die, for fuck’s sake.
He wouldn't even actually die sure is a way to phrase it. Like that part's just an afterthought, and he should just fucking do it anyway regardless of if that's the case or not. Oh, Dave.

Nothing. Why the fuck should he even care? They’d all just pop out of existence in a few hours anyway, gone like everything else.

Or would they? Was it the world that was looping, or just him? Would everything be erased, or would he be spawning an entire fucking alternate timeline where Howard and Cheryl watched him go in and lock the door, and then heard a bang, and would be left trying to explain to Mia when she woke up why he’d suddenly blown his brains out in a hospital bathroom?

(Worse, they probably wouldn’t even think it was that inexplicable, would they. Most of the kids were fucking dead. They’d just figure—)
"They'd just figure he was suicidal", as if that's some nonsense thing that'd never actually be true about Dave (even with most of his kids including Jean dead), he's definitely only considering this as a way to reset the loop and nothing else.

There was an abrupt knock on the door, and he jumped, lowering the gun quickly, like a kid caught playing with something he shouldn’t.
That's such a fun way for him to react. It's not like she can even see him with the gun through the door, but he doesn't like the thought of someone catching him acting suicidal, what, no, he's Dave, he's Fine.

“No.” Goddamn it. Why was she there, acting like she cared?
Consider, Dave: despite what a terrible trashfire you are, she does care. :pikashock:

(but of course Dave is allergic to anyone caring about him in a way that might require him to be vulnerable and talk about his feelings)

What the actual fuck did she think he was doing in here.
Love Dave just completely glossing over the thought that she obviously really does think he's attempting suicide in here.

Yeah. That’s what I’m doing too, with my new time-travel powers. He imagined opening the door, telling her that and raising the gun again. Just seeing the look on her face before pulling the trigger. Why not? It’d all be reset. Even if it spawned an alternate timeline, wasn’t like he’d have to fucking live in it.
This is delightful, but I admit I can't quite interpret out why Dave's finding himself with the fleeting thought of doing this. I'd love to hear your analysis of it!

“Still there?” she said on the other side.

“There’s only one door. Do the math.”
And again, still completely just Noping on actually acknowledging that she thinks he might be about to kill himself, even as he has literally been about to kill himself. Dave cannot possibly be someone who requires any kind of pity, inconceivable.

“Great. Thanks. Eagerly awaiting your bright ideas on resurrection.”
Ironic that that's the quip he makes, when really, from his perspective, the kids coming back to life isn't the problem, it's just keeping them that way that he's struggling with.

She let out a long, exhausted sigh. A few seconds passed in silence before there was a shuffling of fabric as she stood up again. “Can’t say I didn’t try.”
Oh, Cheryl. Dave really does just make himself completely impossible to help, doesn't he.

This scene is another memorable one! Dave trying to approach this as pragmatically as possible yet having instinctive revulsion at the idea of dying to a bullet again, being low-key actually suicidal somewhere in there, while completely incapable of acknowledging that anyone else could assume that about him and utterly refusing any of Cheryl's attempts to reach out to him because what is emotional vulnerability. So very Dave. :okgon:

“Really?” Jean gasped over the phone. There was a little note of disappointment behind the relief in her voice. God, Jean.
Oh, Jean. Dave again not liking to confront the thought that maybe all the kids are a little more like Mia than they usually let on.

The others were staring at him, faces shocked. Bill looked angry. Sure, let’s hear his genius idea. Their kids about to get slaughtered by a bunch of gun-wielding lunatics, and what, they were going to get on his case for fucking lying to them? Let them relive this day in a fucking loop, see what they came up with.
Dave yet again taking his emotions at being forced to treat his kids' deaths like a fucking science experiment out on everyone else. Yeah, clearly, if his colleagues were in this time loop instead of him, they totally wouldn't be handling it any better, Dave is the Smartest Rationalest Science Guy, obviously.

(I assume Bill's the angry one here because he's Jack's dad and therefore understands best how Jack's gonna feel about this.)

God, let him please just buy it, or he’d have to do a whole other iteration just to figure out a better fucking lie.
Oh dear, Dave does not want to sit around in a hospital all evening while everyone grieves yet again. someone still has not found the guts to reset things the Quick Way, has he.

He held Jean, okay and fine and normal, for a long time, and didn’t have the voice to say anything at all.
oh oof, this is probably the first timeline Dave's even managed to end up with a still-Vulpix Jean, isn't it

Mia was looking at him intently from where she stood, and he half-expected her to bust out one of her sudden inspired deductions about everything based on the exact rate of his pulse or the contraction of his pupils or whatever the fuck.
Oh my god, my brain just pictured Mia bursting out into a Great Ace Attorney-styled Dance of Deduction and I must share this mental image with you.

(but also no, this assumption of Dave's is fueled by his guilt about lying, because if Mia had actually been able to deduce that she'd probably have figured it out through the phone anyway and they'd all be at the church by now)

Jack stared at Dave mutely for a moment. Then he screamed and lunged. Dave let go of Jean, shoving her out of the way just before Jack’s fist barreled into his stomach. He staggered backward, wind knocked out of him, and before he could do anything at all, Jack’s antennae lit up with electricity and swung into his shoulder. His muscles seized up, everything cramping, and he hit the floor hard, teeth clamping down on the edge of his tongue.
Jaaaaaaack :copyka: of course he reacts with this. His violent Pokémon side didn't get to fight anyone at the church like he'd been psyching himself up to happen, and then he gets home and Dave fucking lied and left Gabriel to die, aaaa

Plus, a fun bit of electricity whump for Dave! with a grittily realistic flavour to it, as appropriate for Morphic-verse, as opposed to - I mean what, what else could I possibly be thinking of, I have no idea

“You fucked-up asshole,” Jack snarled, voice breaking, struggling as his parents pulled him back. “They’re going to kill him and you don’t even care!”
Oh boy. Jack really has every reason to believe that's true about Dave, doesn't he? :copyka2: well maybe if you didn't want the kids to think you didn't give a fuck about them, Dave,

Dave sat on the sofa, silent, arms folded, glaring at nothing, with another glass of scotch. Yeah. Maybe they should’ve just done that in the first fucking place.
oh, Dave, just rationalising now that they've no choice but to do it that obviously this was the sensiblest idea in the first place, even though it really wasn't and is promptly about to backfire spectacularly.

and of course Dave is dealing with this and the recent electric shock by drinking even more, what better solution

“You know perfectly well.” There were faint sounds of movement from the other end of the phone, the opening of a door, footsteps. “Did you know, he was trying to escape earlier today? We had to tie him up.”
Got to admit I did fridge logic a bit at this at first, wondering if Gabriel really wouldn't have been able to escape on his own if he could just Flamethrower everyone in sight - but then, it's necessary for having things Not Be That Simple for Dave, so I'm fine with this :copyka:

“Hello?” came Gabriel’s voice, panicked as whatever had covered his mouth was removed. “Help! Someone, please, he’s—”

There was a gunshot, and then dead silence.
Oof. Gabrielllll ;-; Even knowing the timeline's gonna get reset, this is still just, ouch. Brutal.

Why’d they even tried? Fuckers. He’d always known this was a bad idea. Why’d he even fucking let them?
Ah yes, he'd definitely always known this was a bad idea, even though just earlier he was telling himself that this was the thing they obviously should have done from the start. Classic Dave.

Wasn’t this basically the ideal outcome, anyway, the one he’d been trying for? Only one fucking dead kid, Jean alive and well? Maybe with that achieved, the loop would break and they could all move on with their lives.

There was an icy pit in his stomach that wouldn’t go away.
Dave is not and cannot be okay with even one dead kid! Jack's furious declaration that he doesn't even care if they kill Gabriel sure must be grating on him, huh.

“They shot Gabriel,” he said, his voice shaking uselessly.

Mia nodded. “They said they would do that.”
That sure is just the most Mia reaction to hearing that news.

“Hey, Mia.” He found the bottle of scotch, poured out another glass with trembling hands. “Say you could go back in time and just redo something. Do it better. What do you do?”
And yet, Mia being here and alive and not unconscious and reacting to everything in her perfectly logical Mia way is maybe what sparks Dave's brain into asking her for advice, how to logic this out better, because surely she can figure it out even better than he could. And it's so Mia that she just buys into this hypothetical without questioning why Dave would ask about this now of all fucking times when Gabriel was just murdered, because she's Mia and she enjoys discussing interesting hypothetical thought experiments with Dave.

And what, then it’d stop? Who said it would? Maybe he’d save them all, do everything perfectly, and it’d just fucking reset itself again and undo it. His personal Hell, forever. Maybe that was what this was.
Ah yes, Dave once again jumping to the most natural conclusions for an athiest to jump to.

He downed the glass as Mia thought about it, the cut on his tongue burning, and started to pour out another.
Dave why are you STILL drinking

(but hey it's fine, he won't even get a hangover from it "tomorrow", will he?)

Mia frowned. “You could prove that you know things you couldn’t know. They should listen if they’re smart. But people are weird.”

Huh. Dave swirled the drink in his glass for a moment. “Yeah. That’s a good point.”
And yet, even though Mia's given him a good starting point to work off, he's not gonna actually get to working on it "tomorrow", not just yet :unquag:

He finished the glass and went rummaging through the cupboards for more alcohol.
DAVE

I guess this is part of why it's not today that he gives up and kills himself just yet, because he's got the alcohol numbing the pain of hearing Gabriel die, but then when he wakes up "tomorrow" he's not so numbed by alcohol and that's when it really hits him so badly that he can't even find the energy to act on Mia's suggestion through that heavy despair.

He told himself to get up and call Mia, but his body was made of lead, the thought floating vaguely by without doing anything. What would it actually accomplish, anyway? The universe would just find some new way to twist the knife. Maybe his next intervention would just kill a different one. Maybe he’d save them all and then a fucking cartoon piano would fall on Jean, just to spite him.
Dave sure is feeling some kind of Way about how absolutely nothing he tries seems to go right, about how the universe seems to hate his efforts to spare Jean in particular what with the Fire Stone thing, to the point that it might totally just drop a piano on her if everything else went well.

It really does track that this time would be the one that pushes him into despairing and feeling like there's no point, after that tantalising glimpse of a happy ending and having almost everyone back safe and maybe he's done it this time only for him to actually hear Gabriel die because no, fuck you, you don't get to have anything after all.

Maybe, he managed to think before the bang, this was how to get out of it all along. Maybe this was just it, and it’d be over.
Yeah, sure, that makes sense, because dying by his own hand and not someone else's would absolutely logically make a difference to how the loop works. (He just wants it to work that way.)

This was a throwaway timeline, just setup for the next. Probably best to just end it before it got to the point where anyone died. He’d had some practice at that by now.
Oh boy, he did it more than once, did he :copyka: And he just glosses over that, because of course he does.

(Groundhog Dave rendition of Hope when, tho????? for real, I would be fascinated to hear more about how his repeated attempts went. How many did it take before he gave up? What was his mental progression from there back into grim pragmatism?)

“If you really were in a time loop, that’d be interesting. Time travel would have a lot of implications for science.”

“Yeah. Yeah, I’ll write thousands of fucking papers on this, I bet.”
It reads like Dave's just saying this to appease Mia's scientific interest so that she'll stop complaining and go along with this, but I do wonder if he would have tried to publish stuff about this, if he'd somehow been able to find a way to prove it was happening and figure out how it worked. Or perhaps he'd just shrug and leave it to somebody else because he's already a controversial enough scientific figure for one lifetime.

That was a good fucking point, wasn’t it. Was this insanity somehow proving the existence of the fucking soul? What was the alternative, that his brain was traveling back in time, magically scooping the original brain out of his head and replacing it while leaving him unharmed? Was that really any less insane?
Dave still instinctively showing scientific curiosity about the workings of this! Although I'm sure he feels some kind of way about the possibility of it proving souls to be a real thing, heh.

“Do the other timelines keep existing after you loop? Maybe you split into one copy of you who stays in the timeline and another who loops back. Then each copy would always eventually stay in one of the timelines.”

“God, at this point I hope not.”

“Why?”

He scratched his scalp. “I mean, it’s not exactly helpful if every day there’s just a fifty-fifty chance I walk away in a world where some of you are dead and there’s nothing I can do about it, is it?”
Oh boy, that's a grim possibility, isn't it. Dave sure doesn't want to think that there actually are like a bajillion timelines in which some/most of the kids are dead and also possibly he's dead. Nor the fact that there could be a 50/50 chance he just gets stuck in one such timeline and the current him is just the """""lucky""""" one who still gets to keep trying.

Mia considered that for a moment. “So you don’t actually want to get out of the time loop. You just want to make it so that we win.”

“I… ‘win’?”
Interesting that he actually questions that for a moment. Like somewhere in his despairing suicidal spiral, he'd forgotten that all along he was trying to find a way to get the good ending where all the kids live, because it'd started to seem so crushingly impossible, and right now he's just talking to Mia for something to do to distract himself.

Mia considered that. “That’s dumb. I should’ve been listening for anyone behind me. Why wasn’t I doing that?”

His gut crawled with nausea. “Well, apparently you’d just slit somebody’s throat.”

“Huh,” Mia said, with neutral curiosity. “Who?”
Yes, because Mia is extremely hypercompetent and would absolutely never get killed by anyone with guns under any circumstances. And her understated curiosity at the knowledge that she got to slit a guy's throat and apparently that was enough of a distraction to kill her, oh, Mia.

“Because then even if you survive you’re going to prison and they’re going to activate the Dangerous Nonhumans Act and everything sucks forever, for all of you. You can never go to school again or get hotdogs or play with Lucy, okay? Do you want that?”
Huh! I guess this means that the Dangerous Nonhumans Act was something that people had already been trying to get passed in the first place before all this happened, just because the kids... exist??? because Mia vaguely threatened some peers at her school?

“Was it the one who killed Brian?”

Dave took a deep breath through his nose. “No.”

“That’s too bad.”
Interesting that Mia actually cares enough about Brian's death in some Mialike way that she wants her victim to have been the guy who killed Brian in particular!

Throwaway timeline. Just like the ones where he blew his own brains out and who knew what happened to the kids after that, if there was an after. Mia would stay in it, if there was any such thing, but she didn’t care, did she. Of course she didn’t.
Mia would mind if she had to stay in a timeline where Dave had blown his brains out, though! she would not get to talk to her Favourite Person any more.

“Right. Okay. But…” He took a deep breath. “Just hang on for a bit. Please.”

“Why?”

He rubbed his face, the same stubble he’d had for weeks, months, clawing at his palm. Why? Good question.

He took another breath, like that, with his face buried in his palm, slumped against the back of the toilet. “Can we just talk, for a bit?”

“About what?”

“Anything. Time travel or science. The taste of fucking human flesh, whatever.”
Ohhh, Dave. It's been so long of this constant kids-dying, and Mia's almost always been either dead or unconscious in a hospital bed, and just getting to talk to her again and have a normal-for-Dave-and-Mia-standards conversation with her about timeloops reminds him of when things were better, and he doesn't want to let that go and go back to the kids-dying thing just yet :sadwott: Dave misses his daughter/niece/best friend (but of course he can't fucking admit it, why indeed)

Dave took another breath to say something, and it came out wordless and wavering. The next a trembling sob.

He removed the phone from his ear. “Dave?” said Mia’s voice on the other end.
Of course he moves the phone away so Mia can't hear him crying, Dave and his chronic toxic masculinity

For a moment he stared at the phone, teeth clenched, trying to blink the blur from his vision, body helplessly shuddering. He wavered over the end call button for a few seconds, throat tightening.

“Dave?” she said again.

Fuck.
and then he tries to just stop the crying from happening, but just hearing Mia's voice sets him off and oh Dave, you terrible disaster man who is incapable of dealing with Having An Emotion

He punched the button, put the phone down by the sink with a clatter and curled up on the toilet lid, head in his arms, waiting.

It took a few agonizing minutes before his body had wrung itself dry, everything aching and swollen and wound. He wiped his face off with a few squares of toilet paper and then sat squeezing the wad, limbs shaking and powerless.
I love the way this is described - or, mostly, not described. His internal narration can't even get words around the actual sobbing fit itself, it's just this gross involuntary physical reaction that definitely has nothing to do with him as a person, right. Oh, Dave.

Jack? He read a lot of sci-fi. He’d also fucking punched and paralyzed him, but at least this Jack didn’t remember him lying to them to make them leave Gabriel to die. Small victories.
Haha, yeah, I have a feeling that that timeline's Jack would not be receptive to Dave trying to explain to him that he's in a time loop.

Indistinctly he heard her voice, in the same tone as always, saying, “Dave’s in a time loop.”

Jack: “What—Mia, what?”

Indistinct explanation in Mia-speak. Jack, a little louder: “Mia, just – put him on speaker, please?”
I'm amused by the implication that Jack just assumes this is some kind of weird incomprehensible Mia thing and surely even Dave will make more sense than this.

(“You’re in a time loop?!” Jean gasped somewhere in the background, like it was the coolest thing ever. This girl was going to be the death of him.)
Oh, Jean. This precious child. :mewlulz:

“But that’s… Okay, let’s say we believe that crap. What do you expect us to do exactly? Not save Gabriel? Is that what this is about, you trying to get us to come back and just leave it? Like he’s nothing?”

He gritted his teeth. “No, Jack, I want to save him without you getting shot down like a pack of children attacking a church full of armed fucking nutjobs. That’s all.”
Another reminder that Jack assumes Dave just doesn't give a fuck whether Gabriel lives or dies! Fun times. At least this time Dave actually manages to express to Jack that he is trying to save him, though! Small victories.

Will’s small voice piped up timidly, audible for the first time. “Who… Who died?”

Him. Him practically every single time, dead on the spot from a bullet to the head.
Ooof. The one time shy little Will manages to pipe up and ask something, and it has to be this.

“He said earlier that the first time I did,” Mia said, helpfully. “And that the next time I lived but everyone else died.”
Interesting: this means that Dave only informed Mia about her death, and not Will's, because she'd have absolutely mentioned Will's too if she'd known about it. I guess he figured Mia of all people wouldn't care about hearing that she keeps dying, but he didn't want to think too hard about Will.

“Did you try just calling the police?” Katherine asked after a pause, hesitant.

“Of course we did. They found out.”

“And they…” Jack’s voice.

“Yeah.”

There was a long, thick silence.
Aaaaa, Jack, just hearing that confirmation that, yep, they really absolutely will kill Gabriel if anyone goes to the police.

“I want to go home,” said Jean quietly.

“You can’t just go home, Jean,” Jack snapped. “We need to save him.”
And then of course while everyone else is struck by the reality of their own mortalities, Jack is there being struck by Gabriel's mortality, so he can't just give up and go home and accept this, even knowing what it's likely going to end in for everybody else.

She sounded like she was about to cry. Dave wanted to just reach through the phone and get her away from all this. Fuck.
Aww, Dave. Look at him having such a caring protective dad instinct actually. <3

“Jack, for fuck’s sake, nobody wants to leave him to die. Do you want to get everyone else killed a dozen fucking times? Because, congratulations, you already did.”

Another silence. Dave rubbed his face in agitation.

“Dave, that’s uncalled for,” came Katherine’s voice finally, unsteady.
That really is a bit too harsh on Jack there. His recklessness got some of them killed, yeah, but functionally only once - it's not like it's Jack's fault things are looping for Dave.

“Then what do we do?” Jack asked, voice breaking. “If we can’t go to the church and we can’t do nothing and call the police, what can we do?”
don't mind me just continuing to aaaaaa, Jaaaaaack, he is so desperate and worried about his Friend <3

“Don’t you see what he’s doing?” said Jack, cold. “He’s in a time loop. It doesn’t matter to him if this is a bad idea, because he can just try again. Right?”

Dave pressed his lips together. Had Jack always been this fucking cynical?
Jack really is very good at immediately imagining how a character in a sci-fi scenario would approach things! And then immediately cynically assuming Dave doesn't care about if they live or die (even despite having accepted that Dave is trying for an overall outcome where they eventually all live), because, I mean, who can blame him for imagining as much, it's Dave.

Why should he even get attached to any one set of them?
And yet, now that he's actually talking to and interacting with this particular set of them, hearing how afraid they are of what they know is bound to end up happening to them, of course he's getting attached to them anyway and no longer wants to let this specific set of kids die just so that he can experiment and maybe eventually save some other versions of them.

“What happened when I touched the Fire Stone?” Jean asked in a small voice.

Deep breath. Dave pressed down on his eyelids, wished for the colored spots to just dissolve everything.

“You evolved,” he said. “But just… halfway. The Vulpix parts evolved. You came out of it blonde and proportioned like…”

Like a monster freak. Like a fucking Barbie doll. Like an uncanny valley character out of a video game with too many sliders.

“…Just fucking wrong.”

There was another cold silence. Why even tell her that? How was that helpful?
You told her because she asked, Dave! Not like it's any worse than the kids learning that they've died a bajillion times (although he didn't enjoy them reacting to that either, did he). Seems like on some level he's realising that thinking of his daughter's potential new body with such revulsion - and describing it that way to her, briefly - is not necessarily a Good Dad thing to do actually.

“First time,” he began, swallowing the sickness in his throat. “First time we woke up to all of you gone. I called Jean and told her you should come back, and you didn’t. Then eventually Jean shows up at the door, looking like… like that. Says she left you after the Fire Stone accidentally evolved her and came back by public transport, and the rest of you were going on to the church, even though you were already fucking figuring it was a trap. Lucy’s been there staring out the window this whole time, but once Jean says that she just floats out and goes oh, since they’re not coming here I’m going to help the others.”
I note that Dave doesn't mention that the first time around it was him who accidentally told them where to go. (Though I guess he may have forgotten that by now, and it certainly wouldn't feel like a particularly important detail what with it being abundantly clear at this point that they'd make it there anyway.)

She was also as good as eight fucking years old. A horrid weight twisted in his stomach.

“Lucy can…” Jack said, realizing the same thing. “She can use Perish Song? And it… it just knocks everyone out? Safely?”

“Jack, you can’t be thinking –” Katherine protested.

“She could do it. She could save Gabriel and everyone.”

“She’s just a kid!”
Oh boy, even Jack's on board with this despite how fucked-up it is to make a functional eight-year-old put herself in danger. He is so desperate to do whatever it's gonna take to get Gabriel out of there as safely as possible.

Lucy stared at him, hesitant. “How do you know?”​

He exhaled slowly, shoulders sagging. So fucking tired.

“Because I’m in a time loop, okay?”
Man, Dave really is just so fucking done with trying to get people to believe him about what the fuck is happening and he just Can't any more and hopes she'll somehow believe him. Luckily, Lucy is little-kid enough to just go along with it. (Or, you know, she's somehow vaguely aware of this because she's the one responsible, but.)

Don’t worry, I’m in a time loop? I’m sorry but I tried fucking everything else? Just personally bringing Lucy into danger too, she’s the only one who hasn’t fucking died yet?
Oh man, that last sentence though. A perfect blend of delightful exasperated Dave sarcasm but also the oof that that really is what he's doing and for all he knows he might just be about to go and complete his kids-killed bingo card :copyka2:

Why would it? Why the fuck would it? Wouldn’t that require there to be some kind of benevolent fucking god-entity who was actually doing this just so he could save all the kids, yet wouldn’t just intervene in any of the billion better ways to do it? Why wouldn’t everything just reset again, force him to do it all again until the end of time? What was the point?
A fun choice for Dave: either believe in an inexplicable bullshit god-entity that wants to save his kids but in an utterly stupid impractical way, or, welp, he's trapped in this forever even if they all get out safe and is never going to live in that happy ending he's fighting for.

“You’re scared,” she said.

He raised an eyebrow. “Uh. Okay.” She sounded… what? Worried? Unsettled? Accusatory?

“You’re scared that we can’t save them. Or that it’s never going to stop even if we do.”

Christ. He got enough of this psychoanalytical bullshit from Mia.
Oh Dave, just completely instinctively evading the fuck out of any kind of question that could be probing him about how he's feeling. Vulnerable emotions? What are those.

(I think on my first reading this was the point at which I started to think, ahh, we are doing this like in original Groundhog Day, this isn't just about saving the kids is it, it's about pushing Dave to be emotionally honest with himself.)

“I mean, what, do you expect me to just assume baselessly that everything’s going to be great, in this fucking science fantasy bullshit scenario? What do you want from me?”
She wants you to talk about your feelings, Dave! That's what this entire time loop wants from you, in fact!

Dave held Jean tightly while she cried into his shoulder and didn’t have the voice to say anything.
Awww. One of the very few times in this that Dave's just gotten to be a dad to an alive and normal Jean. (And presumably the first time since his spiral of suicide attempts.)

Some exhausted part of Dave’s brain didn’t want to do anything. Just stay here and hold her, savor this moment of the kids just being alive and well.

But right now, Gabriel was somewhere captive in a church, terrified, waiting to make a foolhardy attempt to escape that’d be quickly squashed with no one else there diverting the zealots’ attention.
Dave is so fucking tired, and yet he cannot rest until all of his kids are safe. <3

Better if she stood there, a little girl, and just let them fucking shoot at her. Christ.
Oof, yeah, even if she's not going to be hurt, it still can't be fun asking a functional eight-year-old to let a bunch of nutjobs shoot at her, he's gotta be thinking that's still bound to be pretty traumatic for her, huh.

Jean shifted on her feet, uncomfortable. “Be safe, Dad,” she said, averting her eyes.

What could he do? He hugged her again, uselessly.
Hugging your daughter isn't ever useless, Dave! It's a good outlet for both of your emotions! (emotions, what are those)

Dave knew the way to this fucking place far too well and hated it.
Huh, implying he's come here a lot more times than just that one time on loop 3. ...Did some of his spiral of suicide attempts involve more of this place, oh boy.

Then more gunshots. Fuck. Fuck.

Lucy could take it, she was insubstantial, she could take it – but what about Gabriel? Would they get him? He should have come in there with her, done something, something
Oooof, that's got to be terrifying, even knowing Lucy's insubstantial (but what if she isn't? what if she shifted to solid form for a bit accidentally somehow...?) and then realising, oh shit, Gabriel isn't insubstantial, what if they hit him. aaaa.

And there… there was Lucy, running in a flurry of giggles, dress streaming behind her, and…
Despite Dave's worries about how being shot at might be traumatic for her, it seems Lucy just found it all great fun somehow! Like one of her games with her sister, but even more exciting! oh, this creepy little innocent kid.

They stopped where the other kids were. Jack hugged Gabriel tightly, ignoring the slime staining his clothes, and Gabriel sank into him, breaking into sudden sobs.
Jaaaaaaack <3 he gives just zero fucks that Gabriel is naked and getting him covered in slime, it's him and he's alive and Jack was so terrified he'd never see him again after hearing what happened on all the other loops and AAA. and Gabriel clinging back and breaking into sobs of desperate relief and they are FRIENDS :veelove:

Dave sank into the sofa as the barrage of questions died down, all energy gone somewhere in it all. He wanted to sleep, for a thousand years. But if he slept, probably it’d all be gone by morning. He clung to wakefulness, to just watching the kids, there, all of them. Alive.
Oh dear, Dave's already having the pessimistic thought that there's no way the loop would just let him keep this.

“Hey,” Gabriel said eventually when the two of them stepped back out into the living room. “Dave? I… Jack told me what happened today and… I don’t know what’s going on, but thanks.”

He didn’t entirely look Dave in the eye. Gabriel didn’t, a lot of the time. Either it was just the normal thing, or the bit where supposedly Dave was living a ridiculous sci-fi scenario that nobody should take at face value, or something else.
Gabriel sure feels very weird and conflicted about how this jerkass guy whom he's always secretly wished had been shot instead of his dad just went so far to save his life, to the point of enduring multiple time loops just to get that to happen.

Dave put Jean to bed, a tight knot in his chest. It should be over. He’d saved them all, hadn’t he? It was supposed to be over now. This batch of kids was supposed to be the one that lived, that wasn’t erased from existence.
And yet, despite his pessimism earlier that kept him awake, now that he's actually about to go to bed and the day's going to end regardless, he still can't help but desperately cling to the hope that surely this must be it, he is going to get to keep this happy ending, right? Right...?

So this was forever. This was all that there was, this day, trying to save them, again and again, until the end of time.

He didn’t want to rise from the sofa, or do anything. He just wanted some goddamn rest. He wanted to not have the same fucking headache every day.

But he couldn’t have any of those things.

He braced for the Herculean task of standing up.
Daaaaave. Here he is, realising and accepting that he really is just trapped in his personal Hell of the day his kids die, forever, for eternity, and he's so fucking tired - and yet he still forces himself to get up and do what he needs to do to keep saving them over and over anyway. This really is a man who would endure literal torture for these kids, endlessly, no matter what. <3

In some fucking way it felt wrong. Like he hadn’t earned it without Jack hammering him about whether he even cared,
Haha, it still stings to hear that most of them assume he doesn't give a fuck, even though he is right here proving over and over again until the end of not-time that he gives every single fuck in the world and always will

“So what are you going to do if it doesn’t?”

He took a deep breath. “I’ll just have to try again, all right?”

“Even if it won’t work?”

“Well, what the fuck else do you expect me to do? Just leave them all to get themselves killed in new and interesting ways?”
Way to dodge the question by swerving it right into exactly what Lucy's probably expecting you to do, Dave. He words it sarcastically like it ought to be just obvious he'd never let that happen, so that he doesn't have to think about how desperately, earnestly he'd never let that happen.

“You’re scared that it’s never going to stop.”

Christ. Was she going to do this every time? “Well, it already hasn’t stopped for however long it’s been. So what’s another fucking lifetime of this?”
What is another fucking lifetime of this? Dave is fine, obviously, why would he ever possibly be scared about being trapped in his own personal Hell, no need to think about that when there's nothing he can do about it.

Gabriel’s head whipped around. The way he acted unusually alert, almost as if he were ready to dodge an attack, was still disconcerting. “Uh… some kind of storeroom, I think. Really small and dirty. I think they stored shoes there or something, but they’d emptied it out.” He paused. “I tried to eat the dirt off the floor,” he added with a manic chuckle. “That’s how I… That’s how I discovered my powers. Because I realized it’s my skin that eats it. And then I just… stripped and rolled all over the floor and then I could just… just burn my way through the fucking door? It was… it was easy.” He giggled madly in disbelief.
Enjoy how this gets across the way Gabriel's still hopped up on battle hormones, having a little too much fun with the newfound fact that he can fucking burn things

“Is this… Is this for the next loop? You figure we’re all just going to poof and disappear, and you just try to do it better next time with some other us?”

His gaze was wild and haunted, probably exacerbated by his Pokémon half. Dave didn’t know what to fucking say to that, to the inherent existential horror of everything about this.

“Well, maybe your timeline just goes on from here, for all I know.”
Oooof. That sure is some existential horror from the kids' perspective, that they're just going to stop existing and effectively die anyway at the end of the day while it loops for Dave. And Dave gets to reassure Gabriel by telling him well maybe instead it's the possibility where everything keeps going for them (which means there are now a few hundred timelines with varying combinations of dead kids and also some dead Daves, but it's fine, because this Gabriel isn't gonna be in one of those).

“I fucking don’t, apparently. What, do you have some bright ideas?”

Gabriel pressed his lips together, folding his arms and looking away. The glow of his skin throbbed restlessly like a flickering candle.

“I… I always wished they’d shot you instead of my dad,” he blurted out quietly, in one breath, like a secret he’d never before been drunk enough to expel.
Interesting to ponder why it's this timeline and not the others where he's battle-charged and in the car with Dave that Gabriel comes out with this. Probably because this time Dave's being kind of prickly and combative at him and he wants to snap back with something.

Gabriel sat there, braced for something, shoulders tensed, like he expected to be yelled at.
Gabriellll, nobody could blame you for having that thought, not when you know your dad was only shot accidentally by the guy who was aiming for Dave! In this situation, it isn't really a he wants Dave dead, just that he wants his dad to be alive. Apparently the only reasonable way that could have happened was if Dave had been shot instead as the gunman intended, which Gabriel would have preferred. Of course he would!

“Well, who fucking doesn’t?” he said.
Still, Dave's reaction shows that he also feels like this is a blanket statement of "Gabriel wishes he was dead, period". He just can't get mad at Gabriel for it because he fucking hates himself too. More fuel for him realising that most of the kids assume he doesn't give a fuck about them and why wouldn't they!

Next time he would keep his fucking mouth shut. Or maybe next time he’d give Gabriel what he wanted and next time after that he’d keep his fucking mouth shut.

“Are… Are you okay, Dave?” asked Gabriel’s voice, wary.
Daaaave, you dropping dead in front of Gabriel is not actually what he wants, he just wants his dad back and would be willing to lose you for that.

And look at Gabriel responding with concern for Dave, because he doesn't hate him so badly that he just wants him to die and can realise that he's probably not okay after hearing that, is he.

“Yeah,” he said, teeth clenched. “Never fucking better.”
Dave is the Most Fine, here in his personal hell of endlessly saving his kids who assume he doesn't give a fuck about them and possibly wish he was dead.

Gabriel didn’t thank him this time. He looked harrowed and agitated even after he’d calmed down and his skin turned its normal dull orange. Dave caught Jack giving him strange, accusing glances but staying away. Maybe, on some level, that was better.
Dave seems like he's reading this as "Gabriel didn't thank him because he wants him to die so why would he", when really it's probably more like "Gabriel didn't thank him because he feels super awkward about having admitted that to him". I wonder how actually accusing Jack's glances at him are, too - I can't imagine Gabriel would have told him anything that would make Jack that mad at him under these circumstances?

When he’d put Jean to bed he just sat and watched her for a while, stroking her delicate Vulpix curls and fighting the hollow ache in his chest and the burning in his eyes.

He didn’t want to leave her, lose her, lose these last moments with this version of her. He wanted to just hold her and hold onto her until she came with him. He wanted to just fucking hold onto all of them and then free them from this endless nightmare.
hhhhh Dave is such a DAD, he loves all of his kids so so much <3

“Well, I’m just going to have to keep saving them better. I’m the good fucking timeline factory and that’s all there is.”
Such a grimly pragmatic way of putting it, and yet he is. He will create an endless product line of timelines where his kids are alive and happy, damn it, if that's what he has to do.

Then, “You’re scared,” she said, again.

“Yeah? Scared of fucking what?”
Yeah, why would he be scared, he's the good fucking timeline factory, he's got this saving his kids thing down to a science, why does it matter how he feels about his role in this situation?

“Well, maybe everything about this is a fucking nightmare, okay? Maybe I’m here living my own personal customized Hell and even when I do fucking save them you’re still all going to disappear once the clock ticks past six AM and that’s it, forever. Does that sound fun to you?”
Dave actually being emotionally honest about how this is making him feel! Buut of course he has to do so in a snappy, sarcastic way, because then he's not really being emotionally sincere, just angry, right.

“Then why are you still doing it?” she murmured.

Good fucking question, wasn’t it.
Sure, Dave, as if the answer isn't already screamingly obvious to you and you're just allergic to admitting it.

“Fine. You’re right. Why should I even bother? I guess I should just go fuck around for the day, doing whatever I want, and forget about the bit where kids are being murdered.”
And maybe some part of Dave wants not to care about his kids being killed so that he can just go and actually find some way to enjoy himself instead of being constantly stuck in this endless loop of saving them from murderers. (But then he wouldn't really be enjoying himself anyway, because nothing else in his life matters other than being there for the kids.)

(Dave sure would have preferred to be Phil and get Groundhog-looped on any other day that isn't the day his kids get killed, just so that he could go fuck around and do whatever he wanted forever without having to worry about them, huh. Wonder how that would have eventually got to him anyway.)

Lucy looked away, hands fidgeting. “Why are you always so mean?”

“I’m not—”

There was an abrupt blockage in his throat.
But you are, though, Dave! There's been a lot of indications of that to him throughout, but maybe it's Lucy expressing it so bluntly that really gets him to reflect on it.

“About why you’re still doing it, I meant…” Lucy began hesitantly, almost inaudible. “I didn’t mean you shouldn’t.”

No. She meant she was worried he wouldn’t. That was what it was, what this had been the whole time.
This is what it has been the whole time for more of them than just Lucy, really. Took this much for it to properly sink in to Dave that all of the kids who aren't Jean and Mia have absolutely zero reason to believe he gives a fuck about saving them, and why would they, when he's always such a dick to them?

“Lucy,” he managed to say. “I’m not going to stop.”
he is never going to stop saving these kids, and he finally admits it, aaa <3

“Because I need to keep doing it. I need you, all of you, alive, or there’s no fucking point.”

His face twisted into a grimace, struggling, his eyes threatening to burn out of their sockets.

“If I keep doing it then there’s one more evening where you’re all there, and one more timeline where you’re all okay, even if I’m not fucking in it.” His voice shook helplessly, his efforts to steady it scrabbling uselessly for purchase. “That’s what matters. It’s all I’ve got. There’s nothing else.” He tried to take another breath, and it dissolved. “Fuck.”
daaaaaaaave <3

Even without the timeloop shenanigans, this has always been The Core Of Dave, his kids being literally the only thing that keeps him going throughout his self-inflicted trashfire of misery, and it's delightful that you've managed to create a situation in which he can actually acknowledge this.

He wanted to pull over and leave the car and just fucking walk straight ahead into nowhere until everything stopped. But the clock was ticking until Gabriel discovered his powers and started burning zealots, and he couldn’t afford to.
they are literally the only reason he keeps himself alive, this terrible disaster Dad Man

“Look, I’m sorry,” he said. For snapping at her. For the previous times he’d snapped at her. For involving her in this at all, over and over, when she should never have had to go through or think about any of this. For whatever the fuck this was.
Dave actually apologising!!!!! Even though it doesn't "fix" anything, apologising is actually a good thing that he should do when he snaps at his kids! imagine :pikashock:

and of course he also has to apologise for "whatever the fuck this is", because a show of sincere emotional honesty and vulnerability is obviously some kind of Bad Thing, right

“What… What do you mean?” He paused. “Is it… Lucy said something weird about a time loop. Is that… Is that really what’s going on?”

Dave took a deep breath. Then another.

“It doesn’t matter,” he said. “What matters is you’re okay, and we’re going to get you home, all right?”
Dave seems for a moment like he's going to try and explain the time loop again, but then it looks like he figures, no, no need for that, that'd just freak Gabriel out with existential worries and might involve Dave snapping at him again and the whole "I wish you'd died instead of my dad" thing, no need for that, what matters is that Gabriel's okay.

“Okay. I… Thanks for coming,” he said, quiet. “For saving me. I’m… I’m feeling kind of weird.”

Dave took another breath past the tight ache in the middle of his chest. “It’s probably your body temperature,” he said. “You’re going to be okay. Just breathe.”

“Okay. Okay.” Gabriel closed his eyes again and inhaled. “Just breathe.”
And now Dave's just being a good dad-uncle, just reassuring Gabriel and trying to help him through his weird health flare-up!

“You need to tell me about this time loop thing later, though,” Gabriel muttered. “And Jack. He’d love it.”

Dave exhaled. “Maybe.”
Oh nooo. Maybe he would like to talk to Jack and Gabriel about this sci-fi bullshit he's experienced that they'd find cool and interesting! Just talking to his kids about things they enjoy! Actually bond a little with any of them that aren't Jean and Mia, for once! Buuuut... he's not expecting to stay in this timeline to get to do that, is he.

He sat there and he shook, and the more he tried to stop it the worse it got, turned into full-body shudders. He buried his face in his hands and just waited.

Everything was fine. Everything was fine. Everyone was okay, no one had died, no one was hurt. He could do it again. Shouldn’t he be fucking happy?
aaaaa, Dave's body is actually able to release some of the trauma he's going through, because he was emotionally honest for the first time ever earlier today!

“Dad?” asked Jean’s voice, rapid footsteps approaching. He didn’t have the energy to even care. She wrapped her arms around him and he pulled her in tight and just clung to her as everything emptied.
"everything emptied", aka, Dave-Narration for "he sobbed uncontrollably for a long while until he couldn't any more"

“What’s wrong, Dad?” she asked, quiet, concerned.

“I don’t want you to go,” he muttered, brain blank with exhaustion.
emotional honesty this time more out of exhaustion than anything, but aaaaaa

“Well, I’m not leaving until you say you want me to,” she said firmly.

He breathed in and out. Stroked her hair, numb, the knot in his chest tightening.

“Hey, Jean,” he managed to say eventually. “How about we just… stay up and watch a movie for a bit?”

She lifted her head, grinning eagerly, eyes sparkling at the official parental permission to stay up late. “Ooh! It can be like that time you were going to the conference! What movie should we watch? It loops at six AM, right? Maybe we can even do two movies! Ooh, can we make popcorn?”
Jean is so good! Look at her just understanding how her dad's feeling and doing what she can to help cheer him up! She really is surprisingly good at doing this. And Dave actually being able to just admit to himself and her that he needs this and he can't just go do the usual bedtime thing this time around.

I was pretty certain this would indeed be what would end the loop at last, and yet--
—and Jean was there, too tall on awkward legs, unruly blonde mane, and for a good five seconds he had no fucking idea what was going on anymore.

And then he remembered, head spinning, that that day had been months ago. Not subjective months ago in a time loop, months of life and everything continuing on despite everything. Months of Jean in her new form, of funerals and hearings and house arrest and dragging himself to work every morning. Of Mia and Will being dead, shot at the church. Of Gabriel a murderer.
--oof, I was not ready for him to wake up back here, in the original kinda-bad-but-could-have-been-way-worse timeline. I don't disagree with why you did it, but in the moment, that's just a gut punch, damn.

Jean’s posture was awkward as she hugged herself, like she’d been ever since then, familiar but not. Dave stared at her, months or years of thinking of this form with unthinking horror and revulsion curdling in his stomach. What? What the fuck? What kind of fucked-up fucking dream was that?
:unquag: It really did feel that way when her Ninetales form was just a sign of his failure, one of the many hypothetical horrible fates that he'd been trying so hard to avoid for all of them, and not simply who she is now.

Something broke, and before truly deciding anything he was hugging her, arms tight around her torso, fighting the blockage in his throat. Everything was wrong and nothing made any fucking sense. But at least she was there. She was alive. And she’d still be there tomorrow.

“Yeah,” he said. Slowly he let go of her, exhaling. “You know you’re beautiful and I love you, right?”
Lots of good Dave-Jean hugs in this! Look at him just being so glad she's here and she's going to stay here. And reminding her - but really himself - that he has absolutely no problem with her new body actually because it's still her.

Lucy locked eyes with him, hypnotic red and yellow, and in a stomach-churning freefall moment he was gripped with a powerful, burning sense that she knew, she knew everything, the time loop, all of it. That she’d gotten him out, or she’d caused it to happen in the first place, or some fucking bullshit that didn’t make any sense.
I like Lucy being once again the ambiguous explanation for non-canon Morphic AU weirdness. Not enough to give it all a full explanation, but enough that there's something, and the loop isn't just something completely inexplicable that happened out of absolutely nowhere purely to whump a Dave.

“While I’m out, why don’t you think about what you want to do later, okay?” he said. “Just… Let’s all do something fun, all right?”
Dave having learned to be a better dad and wanting to just do something fun with his kids! and not just Jean! :veelove:

“Are you?” Lucy asked, her eyes surveying him carefully. It took him a moment to connect what she meant. Another moment to work out what the answer was.

He nodded slowly. “Yeah, I’m okay.”

The air outside was thick with morning traffic but less oppressive than the air he’d breathed in years. Above, the skies were clear.
Another little hint that on some level Lucy knew what the purpose of the loop was, and that this was about Making Dave Be More Okay. And he is! Because things may still be pretty fucked up, but he's more emotionally honest about what the kids mean to him now, and that makes a hell of a difference.

Congratulations on finally finishing this! It was a treat to read, and I love that you did indeed take it in the direction of not just having Dave save the kids but having him reflect on himself emotionally and grow at least a little, because with a trashfire man like him stuck in a time loop, it'd frankly be wasted potential if you didn't use it to figure out a way to get him to actually miraculously do that. :copyka: :okgon:

(also of course me being me I very much enjoyed the bonus Jack and Gabriel content there was in here too :veelove:)
 
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Well, what do you know? It turns out saving all the kids wasn't good enough, after all. :copyka:

It's kind of interesting to me how this entire story ends up hinging on Lucy, who's one of the least-explored characters in the main fic and who Dave doesn't have nearly as much of a connection to as the other morphs. It was fun to see her get more screen time here and for Dave to interact with her in ways he doesn't really get a chance to in the other stories about him that you've posted. Mia might be the one who ultimately sets him on the path towards ~winning~ the loop, but Lucy is the key character here, and Mia really fades into the background in this third segment. Which works fine for me; it's fun to see you exploring a scenario where Mia (or Jean) isn't the character who can actually get Dave out of the mess he's in. She asks different sorts of questions than the other two.

I wasn't tremendously surprised when the initial "everybody lives" run didn't break Dave out of the loop. "And then I realized Lucy has wild ghost powers and can just solve everything if I get her help" would definitely have been an odd way to end a story like this! As I was reading through, I was particularly struck by this line:

“Are… Are you okay, Dave?” asked Gabriel’s voice, wary.
When I got here I kind of mentally facepalmed and went, "Ohhhhhh, I get it, the loop isn't about Dave learning how to save the kids, it's about him learning to accept help from others and admitting he's struggling, right?" Which I think is... kinda close, but not precisely correct? I think it's actually probably the final conversation with Lucy that ensures that will be the final repetition of the loop, where it properly gets "broken." It's definitely a standout moment in this segment, where Dave affirms that he'll save everyone as many times as he needs to, even forever, and also apologizes for the everything in general. To me the impact of the loop/lesson learned were more of a subtle thing rather than an ah-ha moment--Dave definitely appreciates Jean, perhaps even more so than before, and feels a renewed sense of possibility, but it's unclear what he might take from the time loop experience going forward. For as long as he has before he dismisses it as a funky dream that definitely didn't really happen, anyway. :P

The ambiguity around what Lucy may or may not know about the loop, and whether she caused it--I would assume unintentionally, it would be really cruel to put anybody through that regardless of whether you thought it would end up making them a better person--is interesting. I think it's stated that Dave's never spent the night in her vicinity before, which raises the fascinating question of whether this was just some kind of funky one-time thing or whether the entire Kerrigan household has been subjected to nighttime timeloops for the past several years. (And what sort of loops would they end up experiencing, hmmm?) I'd be perfectly okay with the loop being an entirely inexplicable thing that Just Happened, but Dave wrestling with whether he believes Lucy can have any idea what happened or a connection to it is a cute moment.

In any case, this final segment was fun for getting to involve some characters we don't necessarily see a lot of, and of course for forcing Dave to face a future where he may be looping thousands and thousands of times, having to go through the motions of saving the morphs in each one of them. Highlights for me included Gabriel blurting out that he wished Dave died instead of his dad and Dave not even being mad about it, the aforementioned final conversation with Lucy, and some cute moments with Dave and Jean. I also quite enjoyed the descriptions of Gabriel hopped up on battle hormones and dirt; we don't generally get to see a ton of the morphs exercising their pokémon sides.

Overall, this story was great fun from beginning to end, and I'm so glad that I finally got to read it! You definitely shared some of the juicy bits over the years--I remember you posting the scene at the hospital before, for example, and in the end I think it remains my favorite--but of course there's so much other fun stuff that nobody'd gotten to see yet, and it's lovely to see it all come together. Other highlights for me included Dave losing it at God and all the times Dave has to wrestle with the ethical questions around manipulating the kids in order to try for a better result or convincing an eight-year old to help him out by assaulting a bunch of guys with guns. One thing that I found interesting was how bothered looping!Dave was by Jean's evolution--I also enjoyed present!Dave's response to that, and how he's clearly overcome his prejudice in the time since Jean evolved in the "alpha timeline." (Unclear whether he ever got over it during however-long he was looping? My impression was she didn't evolve in the "nobody dies" scenarios, so this wasn't really tested.) I'd forgotten how disturbing he found her right after she evolved. Understandable, I guess, but tough to read.

Thanks for taking the time to put all this together and get it posted in the end! It was a joy to get to read the whole thing. I'm working on my own Dave fic that I'm hoping won't take absolute ages to get done especially considering it's been in progress for over a year, and it's been a blast. It really is just too much fun to put this guy into situations. Happy birthday, and I look forward to reading what you write next! (Sounds like it's probably gonna be more Morphic?) And Dave's next horrible misadventure.

Take care of them?
I was confused by this because I took "you" to be singular in the preceding sentence--maybe change preceding "you" to "all of you" or similar?

once he was out he got in the car and signaled Lucy so she could float out through the wall and get in the back seat before anyone noticed a thing
lmao, love this image

It only took a minute after he’d started the car before his phone started ringing frantically in his pocket.
This sentence is kind of a mashup of "His phone started ringing only a minute after..." and "It only took a minute for his phone to start ringing..." I think picking one of those two phrasings might read better than a combination of the two of them.

He should have come in there with her, done something, something –
I think you'd usually use "gone in" rather than "come in" here.

The two approached the car, Lucy easily phasing through it, Gabriel wrenching the back seat door open and sitting down, panting.
I'd usually say "back door" rather than "back seat door."

“Okay. I… Thanks for coming,” he said, quiet.

“Why?” she asked, quiet.

“What’s wrong, Dad?” she asked, quiet, concerned.

“So you think you’re still in the loop?” she asked, quiet, without letting him go.
The similarity of the phrasing here stood out to me--the last two of these are the most similar in structure and also occurred quite close to each other in the text, and they definitely gave me a little deja vu moment.

The air outside was thick with morning traffic but less oppressive than the air he’d breathed in years.
I wouldn't think the air would be thick with traffic unless there were flying vehicles involved, but maybe the sound of traffic or even exhaust fumes?
 

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The latter scene just has so many lovely painfully dashed hopes. Maybe Gabriel will be okay if he can save everybody else. Maybe saving all but one will finally break the loop. But no. Instead it's the one where everyone turns their (at least partially justified) anger on Dave; it's the one where he gets to listen to Gabriel die over the phone. It's the scenario where Dave's done the best, so far as we've seen, but it ends up being one of the saddest and most frustrating. Good stuff.
I enjoyed that one too! Technically not a bad plan, in utilitarian terms, but let's make that possibly the most utterly miserable iteration. :copyka:

It was also fun to see what I think is the "Dave and Mia Discuss Family" universe once or twice, or universes adjacent to it? :eyes: Perhaps Dave really is spinning off a trail of other universes, and in some of them he has to pick up the pieces of his failure...
Dave and Mia Discuss Family cannot be literally the continuity of the second day here, because in Family Dave says this:
“Is it my Parent of the Year award from when I told Jean exactly where to go to get herself a nice bullet hole through the head? Or the bonus ribbon for getting five other kids killed with her?”
...which implies in that timeline he was the one who told them where Gabriel was, whereas here that was the first thing he changed. But the rest of the outcome of that timeline is very much based on how things play out at the church in Family: if Jean doesn't take the Fire Stone, she goes with them and warns Mia about Isaac, stopping her from killing the man from the closet, which then leaves two men alive to deal with the rest of the kids. (It would also probably have come up in Family if that Dave had remembered the previous timeline there, even as a dream.)

But if some of those timelines do go on, Dave is indeed left to pick up the pieces in a pretty similar way. He'd have less guilt about being personally responsible for things turning out this way, but possibly more nagging issues about the strangely vivid dream he had where things went better, and then he intentionally avoided doing what he'd done there, only for it to turn out worse actually. All in all, fun times!

I'm really curious what will end up breaking the loop. Is there actually some configuration where Dave can save everyone? Or is it going to be more about some sort of acceptance of the situation? With a story like this, I would ordinarily see some possibility of "sacrifice self to save everyone" being a possibility and loop-breaker, but I don't think that would really fit with the themes you usually explore with Dave.
This wasn't a story where there was an obvious way for him to trade his life for theirs (third iteration is sort of an attempt in that direction, but didn't exactly go great), but that wasn't something I ever really considered as the end point here, no, mainly because it wouldn't have taken him all too much of an emotional journey to get there. Already got himself killed trying to do this on the third iteration!

Leaving aside the ethics of it, getting her away from the other adults may not be so simple. I wonder whether Dave will also need to convince the adults that he's in a time loop; that would certainly be an interesting conversation with Cheryl...
Alas, none of that in this fic! I think it would have derailed things quite a bit if he'd gone and had the time loop conversation with the other scientists, so I just didn't go for that, though it may be somewhat of a fridge logic moment. Keeping the focus mostly on Dave and the morphs, with a little bit of Cheryl, seemed like the best way to keep the premise contained.

Mia might be the one who ultimately sets him on the path towards ~winning~ the loop, but Lucy is the key character here, and Mia really fades into the background in this third segment. Which works fine for me; it's fun to see you exploring a scenario where Mia (or Jean) isn't the character who can actually get Dave out of the mess he's in. She asks different sorts of questions than the other two.
Absolutely; I liked to get to write a bit more of Dave interacting with some of the morphs he hasn't interacted with too much in the existing material, and Lucy in particular gets to have some much-needed focus and sort of prod him in the correct directions. Sort of a shame there wasn't too much for Mia to do in part three, yeah; perhaps it might have been fun to let her push a little more for getting involved, or having more of a dialogue about that.

When I got here I kind of mentally facepalmed and went, "Ohhhhhh, I get it, the loop isn't about Dave learning how to save the kids, it's about him learning to accept help from others and admitting he's struggling, right?" Which I think is... kinda close, but not precisely correct? I think it's actually probably the final conversation with Lucy that ensures that will be the final repetition of the loop, where it properly gets "broken." It's definitely a standout moment in this segment, where Dave affirms that he'll save everyone as many times as he needs to, even forever, and also apologizes for the everything in general. To me the impact of the loop/lesson learned were more of a subtle thing rather than an ah-ha moment--Dave definitely appreciates Jean, perhaps even more so than before, and feels a renewed sense of possibility, but it's unclear what he might take from the time loop experience going forward. For as long as he has before he dismisses it as a funky dream that definitely didn't really happen, anyway. :P
It's all of those things, really! I found I was happiest with it if it felt more broad and ambiguous how the loop stopped, with several noteworthy character development points happening on the final day, rather than giving a sense of exactly one Magic Thing that needed to happen and thus implicitly could have happened without everything else. The Lucy conversation is important, but so is Dave finally just treating Gabriel like he cares as much as he does, and letting Jean emotionally support him/asking for that support instead of just putting her to bed and then suffering in silence until everything resets.

I think the biggest lesson that'll properly carry over from the loop for him here is that he's often treated the morphs pretty shittily for how important they actually are to him. Less snapping and cruel kneejerk reactions and more stopping and thinking and trying to be kind, at least with them. They're infinitely precious to him, and it'll probably become easier for them to see that, too, when he's not so much of a jerk to them half of the time. Over time that could lead to him developing more decent human relationships with the rest of them and not just with his actual daughter and socially-oblivious Mia, even.

The ambiguity around what Lucy may or may not know about the loop, and whether she caused it--I would assume unintentionally, it would be really cruel to put anybody through that regardless of whether you thought it would end up making them a better person--is interesting. I think it's stated that Dave's never spent the night in her vicinity before, which raises the fascinating question of whether this was just some kind of funky one-time thing or whether the entire Kerrigan household has been subjected to nighttime timeloops for the past several years. (And what sort of loops would they end up experiencing, hmmm?) I'd be perfectly okay with the loop being an entirely inexplicable thing that Just Happened, but Dave wrestling with whether he believes Lucy can have any idea what happened or a connection to it is a cute moment.
Yeah, I don't think Lucy deliberately traps anyone in time loops, regardless of anything else; she did seem fairly confused by the notion too! I don't think there was any statement that he's never spent the night near Lucy before - he definitely has babysat both Mia and Lucy before (it happens in the chapter 9.5 extra), so if I implied that somewhere I probably didn't mean to.

If Lucy really did have something to do with the loop, it would be either as something that unconsciously manifested from her powers in the vein of the resurrected Mia in Morphic II: More Fic (can't believe I get to reference this for what's canonically possible) or something that she didn't cause but once she was made aware of it she had some meta-ability to help facilitate ending it.

One thing that I found interesting was how bothered looping!Dave was by Jean's evolution--I also enjoyed present!Dave's response to that, and how he's clearly overcome his prejudice in the time since Jean evolved in the "alpha timeline." (Unclear whether he ever got over it during however-long he was looping? My impression was she didn't evolve in the "nobody dies" scenarios, so this wasn't really tested.) I'd forgotten how disturbing he found her right after she evolved. Understandable, I guess, but tough to read.
Nope, he never got over it at all in the loop. Her evolution remained simply one more horrid Bad Outcome to be averted throughout, hence the dissonance when he arrives back in the timeline where he had accepted and gotten used to her. Tough to write, too (but I also enjoy that, horribly).

Thanks for taking the time to put all this together and get it posted in the end! It was a joy to get to read the whole thing. I'm working on my own Dave fic that I'm hoping won't take absolute ages to get done especially considering it's been in progress for over a year, and it's been a blast. It really is just too much fun to put this guy into situations. Happy birthday, and I look forward to reading what you write next! (Sounds like it's probably gonna be more Morphic?) And Dave's next horrible misadventure.
:eyes: Ohoho! Greatly looking forward to seeing that, and thank you! It is indeed endless fun to put this man into Situations, glad you agree.

Thanks a lot for the thoughtful reviews, and for facilitating the writing of this for the past while! It almost certainly wouldn't be posted without you, and it meant a lot that you were always so psyched for it.

Really delighted my heart to see you'd read this and left such a thoughtful review! ❤️

Also I really like the little interaction with Mia, just trying to get her to imagine a hypothetical, and take a practical approach. Its interesting to me how this might be the factor that pushes him over the edge into not caring because this is the most practical way to reset the loop.
Well, that first suicide really isn't very practical at all - he's at the very beginning of the loop, so there's nothing to be gained by resetting right now instead of just doing whatever he was hoping to do next time, after all! Really was just a moment of total helplessness and guilt and inability to see a future where he'd ever actually be able to save them, after how that previous loop went, and the vague sense that maybe that just really was the way out of this, the one thing he hadn't tried. The talk with Mia was an anchor to something new to try that he eventually pulled himself back up by, though.

Man poor Dave, I can really get such a sense of how weary he is to be begging Mia for a moment to just stay on the phone. Just a moment of repreive, anything to get his mind of everything, savor a moment, make it mean something.
Talking with Mia about random things feels almost normal, and he needs that so badly :copyka2:

I like how the first part seems to focus on a sort of isolated despair and raging against the situation, while part 2 evolves into a situation of trying to confront the loop with some more teamwork sort of, and trying to work through it. There's this shift in mindset of accepting the situation more, trying to evolve and find new ways to approach it.
Yeah, as I mentioned, the three parts each wound up having sort of a different feel or vibe or main idea to them. Part one's the whumpiest, which had me a little worried the other two might feel like letdowns after it for someone excited about the whump, but very glad to hear you enjoyed the rest too!

Man this conversation hits so hard. Even here, its truly never been an option for Dave not to try and do something. Even in his bitterness and despair, he's just so certain he'll do it again, but still sort of locked into this mindsight for now about not really thinking about, and not thinking about why.
Yup. No way for this man to not spend this time loop trying to save the kids, but it takes a lot to make him articulate why without deflecting it weirdly, because he is allergic to emotional honesty.

I've been waiting ages and this sure delivered. (I am infinitely thankful I ended up reading Morphic some months ago).

I have a ton of feelings that ultimately amount to "OUUGGHHHHH good whump" and "OOUGHHAAA im feeling things". A lot of just 'this gud' and trying to think how to express it hah.
❤️ So glad you enjoyed it!

On a more serious note, I think this fic is top tier as a character exploration of Dave and the morphs. There's a ton to unpack in each segment. I honestly feel like every line is something thats interesting to think about, and its the sort of fic i would see myself reading several times.
I think my favorite part however, is the ending. Dave spent so much of the first two runs fighting to get a 'perfect end' where everyone lives, but once he did, the loop didn't reset. A lot of the fun in a timeloop can be reaching that specific point, the 'best' run. So its of particular fun to me to read what a timeloop story does once the ideal run has been achieved.
When I first started thinking up this story I thought it'd end on the loop where everyone lives, but then I realized actually this was much tastier :copyka: Glad that resonated for you as well!

Thank you so much for reviewing and sharing all your excellent thoughts! As the first person to comment on the ending it was incredibly heartening to read you'd enjoyed that in particular. Really meant a lot to see your commentary. I want to read and review BiTTP when I can!

Oh, Jean. I have always adored her sweet, naive, bubbly personality. In the context of this fic, though, it’s painful. She’s gleefully tagging along to her death, and/or the death of her friends, and she’s completely none the wiser. To her, it’s just a grand, heroic adventure! …Until it isn’t. This seems to add an extra layer of desperation for Dave—he doesn’t just want to save their lives, but he wants to save their innocence, too.
Very good point! He alludes a few times to wanting to just get the kids away from all this, because even if he can save them they shouldn't ever have had to go through any of this. Jean really is irrevocably changed by this experience in the canon timeline, and as silly as her naïve enthusiasm can be, Dave still wishes she'd never had to change like that.

Oh gosh this line was so brutally blunt. How dare you do this to me?!
:copyka2: Glad it hit as intended for both you and Tetra, it was one of my favorites.

Lolol I love that you are always sticking Dave, the most rational (well…logically rational, not emotionally) and scientifically-minded man, in the most irrational and impossible to explain scenarios. Every time, he flounders as he tries to make sense of it. It really doesn’t get old, heh.
I will slowly drive him mad with all these nonsense shenanigans he has to suffer through :sadbees:

Yeah, this was bound to happen sooner or later. The mindless, reckless way he goes about it really shows just how desperate he is, but there’s quite a bit of irony in it, too—going in without much of a plan, guns blazing, is exactly what the kids end up doing in the original timeline, after all.
That's a very good point as well. Jack was reckless in organizing this ill-fated mission to the church to save Gabriel, because he's profoundly upset and agitated and it's just so important to him to do something, and in that state he'll sort of motivatedly ignore the reasons this is a bad idea - and Dave is pretty capable of doing something very ill-advised in that state, too, for all that he excoriates Jack for this.

Yeah, I don’t blame her for being protective of her daughter—especially considering she’s the only one who actually stayed behind in a safe place. Could Dave ever get the other adults on board with the time loop stuff, eventually?
It would certainly take significantly more to persuade them to actually take the idea seriously, though with enough persistence and predicting-the-future, they'd probably have to eventually accept that something they can't explain is going on. I chose to just keep the focus on Dave and the morphs, though, to avoid it getting out of hand.

Oh, man. This is never really explored, but I have to wonder why that is. Does Jean get in the way somehow? Fumble something at a crucial moment that gets everyone killed? It’s a chilling detail, honestly.
These outcomes, the ones where Jean doesn't take the Fire Stone and it leads to everyone but Mia dying, are based on an AU extra I wrote a while ago called Dave and Mia Discuss Family. The short version of how that happens is: Jean is there and alerts Mia when Isaac is coming up behind her and she's distracted wrestling with the man she kills in the canon timeline. This causes Mia to release him and attempt to go for Isaac instead, with Jean's help - only for the other man, whom she'd dismissed as a lesser danger, to manage to frantically reload his gun and shoot her in the back. Mia collapses and plays dead, and because there are now two active shooters, Gabriel can't get them both at once. In other words, Jean was helpful and did nothing wrong and died trying to help Mia; it just happens that her warning Mia leads to Mia making a different mistake, which has better consequences for her but worse for everyone else. Horrible irony all around.

Getting into precisely how that played out seemed out of scope for this story especially since I'd already written it, but you can read more of how that happens (and its consequences) in that extra if you're interested.

Boy I sure hope all the timelines where he committed suicide didn’t continue, because…yikes. Even bigger yikes here though, because he didn’t even retreat to somewhere private to do it. Just pulled the trigger in front of everybody, jeez.
Yupp, this was not a nice thing to do to anyone present. Horrid traumatic timeline for everyone. He'd been driven to a point where he couldn't get himself to care about that possibility anymore, but if it did go on, oof. He tries not to think about that afterwards.

This stabbed at my heart, but I am so, so glad he never goes down this route. Sure, there are a few timelines where he sort of gives up, but he never stops caring. Even if that would be the easiest way out of the suffering. He doesn’t ever consider actively trying to detach himself, not once, and if that doesn’t tell you how much these kids mean to him, then I don’t know what would.
Yeah; he can sort of tell himself rationally he shouldn't care at this point, but of course, the thing is that he can't not. He's capable of suicide, but not of just going on and not trying to save them. Even when Mia suggested she hide and watch what happens so she can relay it to him, he can't just sit there and wait for her to do that while they're dying.

Oh MAN. I remember you sharing this snippet in TR discord a while ago, and I was very [copyka] over it, haha. But boyyy the copykas increase tenfold after reading it with the full context. These kids have no idea what Dave has gone through to save their hides—but what hits hardest is that Dave doesn’t even feel an ounce of indignation or anger at this comment, not even for a second. Instead, he fully agrees with it, and Gabriel seems to finally begin to understand just how…well, not okay he is.

In other words, Dave is a perfectly Fine and well-adjusted, healthy individual! Nothing to see here!
The most fine!

On some deeply buried level Dave's always felt that bullet was supposed to hit him. It hurts to hear Gabriel actually say that, but on some level he knew he must feel that way, and it also feels incontrovertibly true. Normally he would probably have snapped back at it in a worse way, but he'd managed to get to this point.

And this is why, at the end of the day, I can’t help but love Dave. He’s a blazing mess, he’s rude and selfish and constantly makes his horrible mental health a problem that others have to deal with, he’s awful at showing vulnerability or sincerity and he’s not about to improve on any of that anytime soon. But he cares. He cares so much, and for all his dickishness, he’ll still throw himself in front of a freight train if it means keeping the kids safe. I just love characters that care and love and fear for the safety of their loved ones, but are at a complete loss as to how to show it. That’s the good stuff.
❤️ You have articulated the true essence of Dave! I love that sort of character too. Something about the contrast of someone who's a total disaster, can be viciously unpleasant, but has some strong sympathetic core.

I love this and hate it at the same time. It’s so nice to see them spend some time together, just enjoying each others’ company, but I can’t help but feel he’s proposing this largely because he knows it won’t last and he just wants to make the most of it while he can.
He's absolutely proposing it because he knows it won't last and wants to make the most of it... but that's also ultimately healthier, I think, than what he's been doing up to this point, which is putting her to bed like nothing's wrong and then silently waiting, alone, for the reset while slowly unraveling. Jean offers to stay with him, and he finally finds it in himself to let her and ask for her company to make it just a little more bearable, and that's not something he could have done for most of the fic!

Thank you so much for reading and reviewing! I hadn't known you were reading so it was such a nice surprise to see this during Blitz, and you had really good observations on what's going on. Hope to get to more OSAS when I can ❤️

Oh, Dave, of course you drunk away most of the evening after learning Gabriel had been kidnapped. Have fun repeating this hangover ad-infinitum! :copyka2:
Yyyup. Only fun times for Dave in this time loop! Him coping through alcohol that day was already canon.

There's something subtly bitter about this, because I don't believe Dave would think "good for them" if he unironically meant it. A part of him's just indignant at the notion that they could not be freaking out about this as much as he is, and he's low-key taking it out on them, even though he should think it's genuinely good for them if they actually did manage to sleep okay!
Yeah, it's a brief bit of indignation at the idea that the kids are just worrilessly sleeping through this situation somehow. Very emblematic of his way of automatically turning his own issues and resentment onto even the people he deeply cares about :unquag: Of course, turns out they were decidedly not sleeping just fine! Oops.

Small victories of the timeloop: Dave gets to realise that the disaster wasn't really his fault for accidentally telling them where to go, because they'd have gone there anyway even if he hadn't. (At least, assuming he remembers this detail once it's over, maybe not.)
He probably did successfully internalize that over the course of the loop! I wouldn't be surprised if he sort of forgot about ever having thought it was his fault in the first place. That's a dumb thing to think and he very much saw that wasn't the case, let's just brush over it and pretend it never happened.

Haha, yeah, that was just some fucked-up dream bullshit, no way Gabriel could actually be capable of something like that, right??? (I guess since Gabriel was in critical condition, he was never in any state to explain to anyone how he discovered his powers, otherwise Dave would understand and accept the possibility of it better.) And definitely no need to think about how Gabriel might be psychologically capable of murdering a guy and it's not just Mia who's like that, nope!!!!
And Gabriel in particular has always struck Dave as really meek, like his dad! Feels absurd to picture him going on some sort of violent rampage. Must be dream nonsense.

oh my god, Dave's pathetic jealousy at Howard for being the one to marry Cheryl is still here even at a time like this, of course it is
Simply cannot think about this extremely inoffensive man for two seconds without making petty internal or external jabs about him, like a normal human being

Love how Dave, thrust into the most ridiculous-ass scenarios like he always seems to be in anything that isn't canon Morphic, will always instinctively attempt to Science Things Out... which usually just results in proving to him that he is, indeed in a completely ridiculous-ass scenario that science cannot begin to explain.
:sadbees: The perils of being Dave

I am amused by the irony of his terrible parking given that he's later going to give Katherine grief for parking badly. At least you've got normal human hands and a driver's license, Dave, what's your excuse. :mewlulz:
His excuse is who the fuck cares about parking tickets right now and he probably won't be around to pay it anyway :copyka2:

I wonder how many of the kids died in this timeline? With one less zealot to deal with, maybe they had better odds - but on the other hand maybe they were distracted and horrified by the dying Dave and it went badly anyway.

(also poor Jean, shaken from the trauma of evolving and fleeing back home only to find her dad's gone out there and got himself killed too :sadwott:)
Definitely an interesting one to consider! I haven't quite come up with the rest of how things went there, but it might be fun to think it through.

Love how Dave can't actually bring himself to start enacting that plan, even though it would theoretically work, because a suppressed part of him doesn't want to die that horribly again, and especially doesn't want to murder somebody again, multiple somebodies, even when they're the fuckers who're trying to murder his kids.

And then it's only after he has that instinctive nausea at the thought that he rationalises away that it'd be a stupid plan with a bad outcome for the kids anyway, and so that's why he's not gonna do it. You're not fooling anyone, Dave.
Yup, do love me some post-hoc rationalizations!

Dave is fine, he has infinite time in the world to figure out how to save his kids, so how he feels about being trapped reliving this traumatic day for the foreseeable future isn't relevant, right? He is Fine.
Of course! The most fine. He has no feelings on anything. He is just in a time loop and it's kind of like a science experiment. This is fine.

That's got to sting so badly for Dave, the inexplicable fact that him influencing the Fire Stone variable always just makes things worse. Without knowing the causal reason why this is that we see in Dave and Mia Discuss Family, it's just gotta feel like the universe is spiting him. Oh, you wanted your daughter to not become traumatically disfigured? You wanted something nice, just one tiny thing? Fuck you, you get an even worse timeline just for trying.
Yuppp. The one small obvious thing he can definitely change, and it just leads to her dying instead. You can see how he winds up at "the universe was just going to find some new way to twist the knife".

Oh boy, it sure does say a lot that Dave's just, casually read up at one point on how to shoot oneself dead painlessly, doesn't it. :copyka2: I wonder when this was? Before the morphs? When he had Jean but before he'd properly grown to love her? Or would he even still have been indirectly entertaining this while being Jean's dad?
I expect it was before the morphs. He probably wouldn't have looked it up exactly, so much as discovered this information and just had it living vividly rent-free in his brain ever since.

The inspiration for this was basically that I stumbled upon this website once, written by a doctor, that was sort of a clinical objective explanation of suicide methods, how they work and how they can go wrong. It was also plastered with hotline numbers and emphasis on how you can get help and should not do it. The basic premise of it was that a botched suicide can mean you die slowly and painfully, or leave yourself alive but with severe brain damage, etc., and ultimately having real, reliable information somewhere that explains the ways it can go wrong and how to avoid them, but also doesn't romanticize or brush over anything about it, is a way of reducing harm: being more aware of the real unpleasant details and the statistics can deter people from trying, and if someone is still unwaveringly determined to do it, it's better if they can do it with minimal suffering.

I can't really speak to the medical ethics of it or whether the existence of the website actually successfully reduced harm or not, but I read, I think, the entirety of this website, because of my longstanding morbid fascination with suicide as a topic. (I know elyvorg already knows this, but for anyone else reading this: despite this fascination, I have never personally experienced any kind of suicidal ideation at all; genuinely please don't worry about why I was really reading this website.)

Dave is so used to bottling up, ignoring or deflecting distress that he's generally not quite capable of consciously contemplating suicide. But while it's deliberately vague exactly how he happens to have read up on this, the thing I was sort of imagining when I wrote the line was that if he had once stumbled something like that website, in some of his darker times, he would have found himself reading through it and unable to look away. Even if it wasn't an entire website along those particular lines, though, he could have stumbled upon that information as it pertains to gunshots anywhere and it would have stuck. He also theoretically could have deliberately looked it up sometime when he was a teenager, when he hadn't quite built up all his defense mechanisms so thoroughly yet.

Mirror whump! ...I really do have to wonder what Dave thought he was going to accomplish by looking in the mirror while he attempted to do it. Definitely something that'll make the task easier. (But it's fine, since he went on to close his eyes, no big deal, don't worry about the persisting mental image of himself with a gun to his own head.)
He wasn't exactly doing this deliberately! He only ended up looking in the mirror because he was using the sink, and when there's a mirror above the sink, that's where you're going to end up looking when you rise up again. He could have specifically turned away from the mirror first, of course, but why would he need to do that, when he is fine

Consider, Dave: despite what a terrible trashfire you are, she does care. :pikashock:

(but of course Dave is allergic to anyone caring about him in a way that might require him to be vulnerable and talk about his feelings)
But clearly if she really cared she would not have broken up with him, which is definitely how caring about people works

Love Dave just completely glossing over the thought that she obviously really does think he's attempting suicide in here.
I don't think that actually quite crossed her mind here - what she's thinking, and what Dave suspects she's thinking when she starts talking about how they'll get through this and they're here for him, is that he went into the bathroom to cry, or have some other form of visible emotional response to the death of his daughter and multiple other kids, because of course Dave would not want to do that in front of them. If she thought he might literally be about to shoot himself in there I think she'd be a lot more alarmed, and a lot less willing to sigh and give up trying to talk to him when he pushes her away.

Of course, because he is Dave, his reaction to that is to be affronted that she could possibly think that's why he's in here, because obviously having emotions is so much worse than what he's actually doing, which is, uhhhh

This is delightful, but I admit I can't quite interpret out why Dave's finding himself with the fleeting thought of doing this. I'd love to hear your analysis of it!
He presents it very flippantly like a random why not, but the core drive behind that is the bit about seeing the look on her face. She is in fact acting like she cares, and while on a conscious level he'll petulantly dismiss that notion out of jealousy and automatically respond to it by pushing her away, there's a deeply buried level on which he knows perfectly well that she cares about him on a human level, and that does in fact mean something to him, somewhere beneath all the layers of Dave. And on that buried level he kind of craves that sense that someone actually cares. For a moment there he's just fantasizing that if she knew he was there about to kill himself, she'd be horrified, look distressed or scared for him, like he matters to her, just for a moment.

...And then it all gets couched in weird deflective layers like "why not, it'd all be reset" and "it's not like she actually gives a shit" and "it'd serve her right to watch me blow my brains out", because he can't even consciously want people to care about him without his brain folding itself into a pretzel to turn it into something more spiteful and toxic. But even all the complicated Dave deflections can't quite smother that deeply buried sense that she is showing she does care and it would actually hurt her if he did this and he doesn't really want to do that, which is why he then ends up quietly putting the gun away and fully giving up on the prospect for now, even if it means trying to sleep sitting against the wall in a hospital bathroom. (So much for that later, of course.)

I don't really expect anyone to get from the text to all this, of course - it doesn't matter to this story at all so it's fine that that thought is very opaque - but that's what's in fact going on in his head there.

And again, still completely just Noping on actually acknowledging that she thinks he might be about to kill himself, even as he has literally been about to kill himself. Dave cannot possibly be someone who requires any kind of pity, inconceivable.
That one's also not actually her believing he's considering suicide in there, though I can definitely see why it came out that way - it's just sort of a lighthearted, figurative prod on her part because he hasn't said anything in a bit. The fact he almost literally wasn't still there is just a bit of dramatic irony (which he of course still responds to like it's tautologically absurd even though it actually extremely wasn't).

Ironic that that's the quip he makes, when really, from his perspective, the kids coming back to life isn't the problem, it's just keeping them that way that he's struggling with.
Yup. He's got the ability to do something about it, by resetting and having them not die in the first place; in this timeline there's nothing to be done anymore because you can't just bring people back to life, so her acting like she somehow has help to offer him is absurd. (Obviously she was actually offering emotional support, but what is that, and also obviously just accepting that they're gone and trying to move on is out of the question, the only thing that would help is making it so that they're not dead.)

oh oof, this is probably the first timeline Dave's even managed to end up with a still-Vulpix Jean, isn't it
Yup :copyka2:

Oh my god, my brain just pictured Mia bursting out into a Great Ace Attorney-styled Dance of Deduction and I must share this mental image with you.
Bwahahahaha, excellent

Got to admit I did fridge logic a bit at this at first, wondering if Gabriel really wouldn't have been able to escape on his own if he could just Flamethrower everyone in sight - but then, it's necessary for having things Not Be That Simple for Dave, so I'm fine with this :copyka:
Even in the Dave and Mia Discuss Family AU, they successfully take down Gabriel because there's two of them... but nonetheless, it is definitely a bit of fridge logic how exactly they went about subduing him nonlethally. I do figure if the kids don't come at all they're going to be keeping more careful watch over Gabriel's cell, though; perhaps one of them managed to hide and then dump a bucket of water on him from behind.

I guess this is part of why it's not today that he gives up and kills himself just yet, because he's got the alcohol numbing the pain of hearing Gabriel die, but then when he wakes up "tomorrow" he's not so numbed by alcohol and that's when it really hits him so badly that he can't even find the energy to act on Mia's suggestion through that heavy despair.
Yeah, pretty much. It also matters that when it happens he's been actively doing stuff all day and is there with the other kids alive; Jean is with him, Mia is in the kitchen, and he can turn to his usual ways of coping while talking to Mia about it as a sort of distraction from it all. When he wakes up again, he's sober and has a pounding headache and they're not there again and Gabriel's scream is still in his ears, and the prospect of starting in on another plan again from the beginning, when it's just going to go horribly wrong in some new way that he'll be responsible for, is just insurmountable.

Oh boy, he did it more than once, did he :copyka: And he just glosses over that, because of course he does.

(Groundhog Dave rendition of Hope when, tho????? for real, I would be fascinated to hear more about how his repeated attempts went. How many did it take before he gave up? What was his mental progression from there back into grim pragmatism?)
It wasn't too many. After the first attempt, he keeps trying for a little while, initially out of spite and stubborn persistence and vague but rapidly fading wishful thinking, which then evolves into just sort of a fucked-up way to vent his frustration/grief/despair in the most dramatic possible way. He keeps that up until his emotional state has settled a bit again and the sense of catharsis in it has faded, at which time he just automatically gravitates back to okay but he has to save them, he has to keep trying, there's nothing else. It's like a growing itch in his brain and in between shooting himself in the head, without even meaning to, he's already started thinking about exactly what he's going to say to Jean and to Mia. Caring about these kids is so core to his being that he can't not go back to it, knowing they're there.

It reads like Dave's just saying this to appease Mia's scientific interest so that she'll stop complaining and go along with this, but I do wonder if he would have tried to publish stuff about this, if he'd somehow been able to find a way to prove it was happening and figure out how it worked. Or perhaps he'd just shrug and leave it to somebody else because he's already a controversial enough scientific figure for one lifetime.
Unfortunately I think Dave will basically never speak of this again. Rationally he thinks it must have been some sort of big fucked-up dream he had, even if it had a significant effect on him emotionally, and he has zero evidence that it wasn't and no way to replicate it, so there's not really anything he could write on it. Would definitely have done so if he were to actually have been put in a situation where he had a properly tangible way of proving the loop to others (and himself) and investigating its mechanics while not distracted by children dying, though.

Oh boy, that's a grim possibility, isn't it. Dave sure doesn't want to think that there actually are like a bajillion timelines in which some/most of the kids are dead and also possibly he's dead. Nor the fact that there could be a 50/50 chance he just gets stuck in one such timeline and the current him is just the """""lucky""""" one who still gets to keep trying.
After all, that would mean any day he might find himself walking away in a world where they're dead and there's nothing he can do about it anymore :copyka2:

Interesting that he actually questions that for a moment. Like somewhere in his despairing suicidal spiral, he'd forgotten that all along he was trying to find a way to get the good ending where all the kids live, because it'd started to seem so crushingly impossible, and right now he's just talking to Mia for something to do to distract himself.
Mainly he's knocked off-balance by her casual framing about the kids winning. To her it's obvious that the solution is they do go to the church and fight the zealots, they just need to win that fight. Dave has been fixated on preventing them from going there at all, and that's what his framing has been - the morphs going to the church at all was a failure state, something to be stopped, and the idea that it's just a fight that they can 'win' or 'lose' throws him for a loop. To him it's like if he were trying to stop them from jumping off a cliff, and she's there casually like ah, so you want us to win the cliff-jump.

Huh! I guess this means that the Dangerous Nonhumans Act was something that people had already been trying to get passed in the first place before all this happened, just because the kids... exist??? because Mia vaguely threatened some peers at her school?
It was established in chapter 14 that it was a precautionary law passed so that measures could be taken if they turned out to be dangerous. So basically, it was always there, sort of dormant. It's kind of awkward in the fic that it just suddenly comes up in the last chapter and the kids apparently knew nothing about this even though it was supposedly always a thing, which is weird (naturally, this was just because I hadn't thought up this plot point at the start); the rewrite would definitely set all this up better.

Interesting that Mia actually cares enough about Brian's death in some Mialike way that she wants her victim to have been the guy who killed Brian in particular!
It's not that she cares about Brian per se quite so much as that she's thinking of the man she had previously identified as the one who killed Brian, back in chapter 11/12, who's the only specific one she 'knows', and also the one she figures is the one who matters, who is smart. She likes the idea that she killed that one and not some random other one she doesn't know!

Mia would mind if she had to stay in a timeline where Dave had blown his brains out, though! she would not get to talk to her Favourite Person any more.
She absolutely would. It does not really occur to her in this moment that he would do that, though. She's expecting him to stick around and hear her explain what happened at the church and then they'd plan and then in the morning maybe everything rewinds or else they continue as they were (and obviously Dave will be fine and normal if this happens, right). If he then suggested he kill himself to fast-forward, she would not like that. Would be kind of fun to write that conversation, now that I'm thinking about it, actually; a fun case where Mia knows what the calculus looks like from his point of view but also from her point of view it looks very different.

Ohhh, Dave. It's been so long of this constant kids-dying, and Mia's almost always been either dead or unconscious in a hospital bed, and just getting to talk to her again and have a normal-for-Dave-and-Mia-standards conversation with her about timeloops reminds him of when things were better, and he doesn't want to let that go and go back to the kids-dying thing just yet :sadwott: Dave misses his daughter/niece/best friend (but of course he can't fucking admit it, why indeed)
Yuppp. Just clinging to the sense of relative normalcy where Mia's alive and he can talk to her about random shit and she can be Mia at him. I enjoy how he acts kind of frustrated throughout the conversation because he's always like that and Mia's always like that but that's just what these conversations are like, and it's actually such a spot of relief for him in this nightmare and he doesn't want it to end.

I love the way this is described - or, mostly, not described. His internal narration can't even get words around the actual sobbing fit itself, it's just this gross involuntary physical reaction that definitely has nothing to do with him as a person, right. Oh, Dave.
Just his body doing a thing, for some irritating reason :copyka2:

Haha, yeah, I have a feeling that that timeline's Jack would not be receptive to Dave trying to explain to him that he's in a time loop.
Nooope :unquag:

(I do enjoy that Dave's internal monologue still brings it up, though. Just feels guilty about having done that and like Jack has every right to hate him for it, even if it wasn't this Jack.)

I'm amused by the implication that Jack just assumes this is some kind of weird incomprehensible Mia thing and surely even Dave will make more sense than this.
Surely, surely, Dave is actually saying something that's not that he's in a time loop and Mia's just interpreting him in some weird way because she's Mia. Right? Right??

Another reminder that Jack assumes Dave just doesn't give a fuck whether Gabriel lives or dies! Fun times. At least this time Dave actually manages to express to Jack that he is trying to save him, though! Small victories.
Small victories! Only manages to express it in a form that is also angry and disparaging, of course.

Interesting: this means that Dave only informed Mia about her death, and not Will's, because she'd have absolutely mentioned Will's too if she'd known about it. I guess he figured Mia of all people wouldn't care about hearing that she keeps dying, but he didn't want to think too hard about Will.
He was kind of reluctant to discuss the details very much; initially he just said they kept going to the church and every time they went to the church some of them died, and she pressed him on whether she'd died specifically, at which he confirmed that yes, she'd died too. The rest of what she learned about it was onscreen:

“How did I die in the other loops? If you tell me, I can just not do that.”

Dave’s tongue was dry and uncomfortable in his mouth.

The first time, you were shot in the back of the head. Three times. Died instantly.”

Mia considered that. “That’s dumb. I should’ve been listening for anyone behind me. Why wasn’t I doing that?”

His gut crawled with nausea. “Well, apparently you’d just slit somebody’s throat.”

“Huh,” Mia said, with neutral curiosity. “Who?”

“Please don’t do that, Mia.”

“Why?”

“Because.” He squeezed his eyes shut. “Because then even if you survive you’re going to prison and they’re going to activate the Dangerous Nonhumans Act and everything sucks forever, for all of you. You can never go to school again or get hotdogs or play with Lucy, okay? Do you want that?”

“No.” She paused. “Who was it?”

“One of those zealots at the church. How would I know?”

“Was it the one who killed Brian?”

Dave took a deep breath through his nose. “No.”

“That’s too bad. What about the other times?”

Most of the time it was either that or you lived but got shot in the back while they killed everyone else. Look, Mia, I don’t know how the fuck you’re going to go in there and get Gabriel out without anybody dying. Again, it’s a bunch of people with guns.”
So that's where she gets the information that on the first loop she died, and other times she lived but everyone else died, which is enough for the 'helpful' information that all of them have definitely died at some point. (But there's a slight continuity error here caused by wording getting tweaked back and forth, since it ended up he doesn't technically tell her that this other main scenario happened on the second time per se and so she shouldn't have been able to specify that; should edit that.)

That really is a bit too harsh on Jack there. His recklessness got some of them killed, yeah, but functionally only once - it's not like it's Jack's fault things are looping for Dave.
Yupppp. Dave will just automatically lash out with whatever seems to score a hit on the other guy when upset, even if it's not very fair and even if the other guy is someone he cares about and does not actually want to hurt. Terrible toxic defense mechanisms.

And yet, now that he's actually talking to and interacting with this particular set of them, hearing how afraid they are of what they know is bound to end up happening to them, of course he's getting attached to them anyway and no longer wants to let this specific set of kids die just so that he can experiment and maybe eventually save some other versions of them.
Indeed! The irony, of course, is Jack's accusing him of not caring if this is a bad idea because he's in a time loop, but the reason he suggested this at all was that he can't just leave this specific set of kids as sacrificial lambs for the sake of the next loop, and the best idea he could think of in the moment to give them the best chance possible without leaving Gabriel behind was to go in there with them and give them all the information he had. It is true he wouldn't have suggested that if he weren't in a time loop - too many ways it could still go horribly wrong - but it truly was a desperate effort to think up something that gave them the best possible actual chance to save Gabriel without casualties, putting himself on the line to do it. And Jack still throws it in his face, because it really isn't a great idea from the kids' point of view, with the knowledge they now have, and so it seems to confirm his preexisting belief that Dave doesn't give a shit.

You told her because she asked, Dave! Not like it's any worse than the kids learning that they've died a bajillion times (although he didn't enjoy them reacting to that either, did he). Seems like on some level he's realising that thinking of his daughter's potential new body with such revulsion - and describing it that way to her, briefly - is not necessarily a Good Dad thing to do actually.
Pretty much! He answers the question, but answers it in a way that vents his own repulsed feelings on it (even if not as harshly as some of his first thoughts), and that bit really isn't helpful.

I note that Dave doesn't mention that the first time around it was him who accidentally told them where to go. (Though I guess he may have forgotten that by now, and it certainly wouldn't feel like a particularly important detail what with it being abundantly clear at this point that they'd make it there anyway.)
Yeah, that bit's sort of stopped seeming important as the loop keeps going and they just go there no matter what he does. He doesn't like to think about having done it in the first place, but the guilt he lives with over it in the canon/Family timelines where he sees no alternatives has mostly faded into irrelevance.

Oh boy, even Jack's on board with this despite how fucked-up it is to make a functional eight-year-old put herself in danger. He is so desperate to do whatever it's gonna take to get Gabriel out of there as safely as possible.
Yup :copyka2: By the same logic he figured they could go in there and save him, he figures no, Lucy really does have powers! She really could! And if it's the only thing that'll save Gabriel, of course he'll want to go for it, and be able to cling to the justification that she can, she's got to be able to do it.

Oh man, that last sentence though. A perfect blend of delightful exasperated Dave sarcasm but also the oof that that really is what he's doing and for all he knows he might just be about to go and complete his kids-killed bingo card :copyka2:
"Kids-killed bingo card", ahahaha

But yup, that's about the size of it. Can only consciously articulate it in the form of sarcastic exasperation, but of course the only reason it's coming up in his head at all is that he feels guilty as hell about doing this.

A fun choice for Dave: either believe in an inexplicable bullshit god-entity that wants to save his kids but in an utterly stupid impractical way, or, welp, he's trapped in this forever even if they all get out safe and is never going to live in that happy ending he's fighting for.
Pretty much! And yet he manages to emotionally cling to what he rationally acknowledges basically requires some such god-entity at work, because the alternative is believing he's just going to be trapped forever.

Oh Dave, just completely instinctively evading the fuck out of any kind of question that could be probing him about how he's feeling. Vulnerable emotions? What are those.
Of course! He is a Dave. I enjoyed this thing of Lucy asking him the same probing questions on each loop, and he starts with his usual sorts of deflections and then as it goes on he's worn down to actually answering.

She wants you to talk about your feelings, Dave! That's what this entire time loop wants from you, in fact!
What do you mean, that's not a thing :pikashock:

Awww. One of the very few times in this that Dave's just gotten to be a dad to an alive and normal Jean. (And presumably the first time since his spiral of suicide attempts.)
Very much so! I enjoyed these quiet little moments of reunion with Jean; he can't quite articulate it consciously as usual but he's so, so relieved for her to just finally be okay.

Oof, yeah, even if she's not going to be hurt, it still can't be fun asking a functional eight-year-old to let a bunch of nutjobs shoot at her, he's gotta be thinking that's still bound to be pretty traumatic for her, huh.
Yup. He wants to save them from all of this, the death and the injuries and the trauma, and the best he can do still involves sending her in there to experience being shot at. None of this feels remotely okay.

Hugging your daughter isn't ever useless, Dave! It's a good outlet for both of your emotions! (emotions, what are those)
It cannot make this simply stop happening so it is useless :(

Huh, implying he's come here a lot more times than just that one time on loop 3. ...Did some of his spiral of suicide attempts involve more of this place, oh boy.
Quite possibly! I think I was actually more thinking of the third loop and perhaps some of the various other early loops that we mostly brushed over, which just burned this route into his brain much more thoroughly than he would have liked, but I can definitely imagine when just shooting himself was starting to lose its novelty he went back in there, at least once. :copyka:

Despite Dave's worries about how being shot at might be traumatic for her, it seems Lucy just found it all great fun somehow! Like one of her games with her sister, but even more exciting! oh, this creepy little innocent kid.
Yup. Lucy is pretty used to games where her insubstantiality negates something that would otherwise kill her! Dave still doesn't like this one bit, but as far as she's concerned, doing it successfully was not such a traumatic thing. Certainly nothing next to finding her sister dead.

Jaaaaaaack <3 he gives just zero fucks that Gabriel is naked and getting him covered in slime, it's him and he's alive and Jack was so terrified he'd never see him again after hearing what happened on all the other loops and AAA. and Gabriel clinging back and breaking into sobs of desperate relief and they are FRIENDS :veelove:
They are! <3 I really enjoyed writing the Jack and Gabriel content here, even if it stays mostly backgrounded. Very pleased that you enjoyed it!

Oh dear, Dave's already having the pessimistic thought that there's no way the loop would just let him keep this.
He's been pretty thoroughly conditioned to expect everything he does will be erased the next day, after all, and rationally he can't come up with any good reason it would end now :copyka:

Gabriel sure feels very weird and conflicted about how this jerkass guy whom he's always secretly wished had been shot instead of his dad just went so far to save his life, to the point of enduring multiple time loops just to get that to happen.
Yup. Not to mention the bit where supposedly he's in a time loop to begin with, which just makes this even more confusing to process.

And yet, despite his pessimism earlier that kept him awake, now that he's actually about to go to bed and the day's going to end regardless, he still can't help but desperately cling to the hope that surely this must be it, he is going to get to keep this happy ending, right? Right...?
:copyka2: There's not much else to cling to, is there

Daaaaave. Here he is, realising and accepting that he really is just trapped in his personal Hell of the day his kids die, forever, for eternity, and he's so fucking tired - and yet he still forces himself to get up and do what he needs to do to keep saving them over and over anyway. This really is a man who would endure literal torture for these kids, endlessly, no matter what. <3
"But he couldn't have any of those things" is a line I enjoyed a lot just for how unthinkingly he does not even question that he can not in fact just get some rest. It's so hard and he hates it but he has to keep going. Terrible trash man just really loves his goddamn kids.

Haha, it still stings to hear that most of them assume he doesn't give a fuck, even though he is right here proving over and over again until the end of not-time that he gives every single fuck in the world and always will
And yet, in some way it feels wrong to be able to just skip all that! Jack should grill him about whether he even cares. It stuck with him, on a deeply buried level, just like Jack punching him for lying to make them leave Gabriel behind.

Way to dodge the question by swerving it right into exactly what Lucy's probably expecting you to do, Dave. He words it sarcastically like it ought to be just obvious he'd never let that happen, so that he doesn't have to think about how desperately, earnestly he'd never let that happen.
Also just in a bizarrely accusatory way. As if Lucy was suggesting he's supposed to just leave them all to die, which is obviously not what she's suggesting, but this man must deflect all efforts at sincerity.

Enjoy how this gets across the way Gabriel's still hopped up on battle hormones, having a little too much fun with the newfound fact that he can fucking burn things
I didn't quite get to write enough of how Gabriel actually felt in the moment in the fic proper, so it was fun to return to it a bit here!

Oooof. That sure is some existential horror from the kids' perspective, that they're just going to stop existing and effectively die anyway at the end of the day while it loops for Dave. And Dave gets to reassure Gabriel by telling him well maybe instead it's the possibility where everything keeps going for them (which means there are now a few hundred timelines with varying combinations of dead kids and also some dead Daves, but it's fine, because this Gabriel isn't gonna be in one of those).
Dave would kind of prefer that's not the case, but whatever would help Gabriel a bit in the moment :copyka2:

Interesting to ponder why it's this timeline and not the others where he's battle-charged and in the car with Dave that Gabriel comes out with this. Probably because this time Dave's being kind of prickly and combative at him and he wants to snap back with something.
In particular, this is a timeline where the conversation went in a direction that sort of feels like it confirms how he feels about Dave. Dave's asking him questions about the church, and at first he answers talking about these weird new feelings and his powers that are the main thing on his mind, but then he realizes Dave's just asking for the sake of the next loop, like it's all just some optimization problem for him and he's just thinking about how to do it better next time, is only interested in this Gabriel as a source of information to improve some other timeline. And when he probes about it, Dave just sort of dismisses it as "maybe you go on from here", and when he asks about the loop Dave is snappy and condescending about it. All in all it makes him feel like Dave didn't come here to save him because he cares about him, but just because it's some kind of fucked-up science project for him.

Gabriellll, nobody could blame you for having that thought, not when you know your dad was only shot accidentally by the guy who was aiming for Dave! In this situation, it isn't really a he wants Dave dead, just that he wants his dad to be alive. Apparently the only reasonable way that could have happened was if Dave had been shot instead as the gunman intended, which Gabriel would have preferred. Of course he would!
It is a bit of a dark fantasy - he could always just fantasize that the shot had missed and nobody had died at all, which is objectively a better outcome. But it feels so especially unfair to him that the gunman was probably aiming for Dave but got his dad instead. Dave was supposed to die there, not him, and it's in some ways easier to imagine that version of events - it requires a smaller tweak to fate.

Gabriel basically knows most people wouldn't blame him for it exactly, although he does feel kind of guilty about having that thought. But he definitely expects Dave to yell at him for saying that. Dave yells at people for lesser things than wishing he was dead, after all. He's expecting a fight, and the battle hormones make him kind of want one right now, as an outlet for everything. (Only, of course, that's not actually what happens when he says it at all.)

Still, Dave's reaction shows that he also feels like this is a blanket statement of "Gabriel wishes he was dead, period". He just can't get mad at Gabriel for it because he fucking hates himself too. More fuel for him realising that most of the kids assume he doesn't give a fuck about them and why wouldn't they!
Dave also very much does think it was an especially cruel twist of fate that Brian took a bullet in his place specifically, as much as he generally will not admit to it or think about it (unless sufficiently drunk, as in chapter 9.5, of course). So even as it hurts to hear Gabriel say it, it's also giving voice to something he's specifically felt for a long time, and something he basically expects everyone thinks, deep down, even if they wouldn't say it out loud. Everyone would rather have Brian alive; of course they would. And of course he can't blame Gabriel for that. But of course, he can't voice that in a compassionate way, by telling Gabriel it's okay and he understands and he feels that too, so much as just snapping back in the most angrily self-loathing way possible.

Daaaave, you dropping dead in front of Gabriel is not actually what he wants, he just wants his dad back and would be willing to lose you for that.

And look at Gabriel responding with concern for Dave, because he doesn't hate him so badly that he just wants him to die and can realise that he's probably not okay after hearing that, is he.
Dave's not quite thinking he'll kill himself in front of Gabriel here, mind, just that he feels truly awful and hates himself enough he's ideating about suicide again, but puts it to himself in this spiteful way as giving Gabriel what he wanted because he has such a mental block against actual direct thoughts that sound vulnerable. He knows even if Gabriel wishes he was dead that's not the same thing as actually wanting to watch him die.

Meanwhile, yup, instead of getting the fight he expected, Gabriel just gets... indication that Dave kind of hates himself actually? And seems to agree with his darkest thoughts instead of being mad at him? It's way unexpected and not at all in line with the General Feelings on Dave that he felt like this conversation was confirming. He's very confused but definitely does sense that Dave seems pretty Not Okay right now.

Dave seems like he's reading this as "Gabriel didn't thank him because he wants him to die so why would he", when really it's probably more like "Gabriel didn't thank him because he feels super awkward about having admitted that to him". I wonder how actually accusing Jack's glances at him are, too - I can't imagine Gabriel would have told him anything that would make Jack that mad at him under these circumstances?
Gabriel definitely feels super awkward about having admitted that to him, but also just generally sort of confused and uncomfortable. The overall sense that Dave is engaged in some kind of self-serving experimentation isn't gone, it's just more confusing; he's feeling some strange sympathy for him for basically the first time, feels bad for telling him that and not sure if it somehow triggered something, but at the same time he's also sort of defensively like how was he supposed to know given how Dave is, and all in all he's just feeling sort of bad and frustrated about all of it.

Jack probed him about how he was feeling and the agitation he was picking up, and Gabriel probably told him something pretty vague about how Dave was just being really weird in the car. So Jack basically extrapolates that in the end Dave couldn't even save Gabriel's life without somehow being an asshole and making it even worse for him, and that's where the accusation Dave's noticing is coming from. But Jack's still also very grateful to Dave for doing it at all, so it doesn't go beyond a couple of weird glances.

Yeah, why would he be scared, he's the good fucking timeline factory, he's got this saving his kids thing down to a science, why does it matter how he feels about his role in this situation?
That moment when Dave doesn't realize how desperate he already sounds when he's saying he's the good fucking timeline factory and that's all there is

Dave actually being emotionally honest about how this is making him feel! Buut of course he has to do so in a snappy, sarcastic way, because then he's not really being emotionally sincere, just angry, right.
Of course! Dave is a master of handling his sincerity allergy in extremely healthy and productive ways

And maybe some part of Dave wants not to care about his kids being killed so that he can just go and actually find some way to enjoy himself instead of being constantly stuck in this endless loop of saving them from murderers. (But then he wouldn't really be enjoying himself anyway, because nothing else in his life matters other than being there for the kids.)

(Dave sure would have preferred to be Phil and get Groundhog-looped on any other day that isn't the day his kids get killed, just so that he could go fuck around and do whatever he wanted forever without having to worry about them, huh. Wonder how that would have eventually got to him anyway.)
Even when saying that he's saying it like it's absurd. I guess I should just go forget about the part where kids are being murdered, whole reductio ad absurdum about it, because that's obviously what Lucy is suggesting he should do, right. He can raise the hypothetical but only to ridicule it because obviously he can't do that.

Dave getting into a time loop on some other day would be a very different sort of AU, yeah. As you say, he would definitely have handled that a lot closer to how Phil did, using it for whatever meaningless thrills make him feel something until the repetition really starts to wear him down (but also, he would have done more Science).

But you are, though, Dave! There's been a lot of indications of that to him throughout, but maybe it's Lucy expressing it so bluntly that really gets him to reflect on it.
Yeah, part the bluntness, part that it's Lucy specifically in her innocence when she's the one he keeps having to put into danger, part just the timing. That he's been so, so worn down by this point, and learned so memorably that Jack hates him and Gabriel hates him and honestly the others probably do too, and then she just hits him with that so bluntly and he can't do his usual thing anymore. Of course he's mean to them, and it just makes them hate him, and he doesn't want them to.

daaaaaaaave <3

Even without the timeloop shenanigans, this has always been The Core Of Dave, his kids being literally the only thing that keeps him going throughout his self-inflicted trashfire of misery, and it's delightful that you've managed to create a situation in which he can actually acknowledge this.
The true purpose of writing this fic :copyka:

Dave actually apologising!!!!! Even though it doesn't "fix" anything, apologising is actually a good thing that he should do when he snaps at his kids! imagine :pikashock:

and of course he also has to apologise for "whatever the fuck this is", because a show of sincere emotional honesty and vulnerability is obviously some kind of Bad Thing, right
Even apologizing for things this Lucy didn't experience but that he should have apologized to all the previous Lucys for!

And yet, he remains Dave, so obviously he also has to apologize for being emotionally compromised :sadbees: Progress can only be partial for this man

Dave seems for a moment like he's going to try and explain the time loop again, but then it looks like he figures, no, no need for that, that'd just freak Gabriel out with existential worries and might involve Dave snapping at him again and the whole "I wish you'd died instead of my dad" thing, no need for that, what matters is that Gabriel's okay.
Yup. And that's the correct decision! It really doesn't matter. He just wants Gabriel to be okay. And while Gabriel's a little frustrated and confused about this whole time loop thing and about why Dave's being evasive about it, especially with battle hormones doing the Want Do Fight thing again... Dave is actually acting like he cares this time, just paying attention to how Gabriel's feeling and trying to explain it and help him through it. He's not using Gabriel to beat the time loop, he's using something he presumably learned in the time loop to help Gabriel.

Oh nooo. Maybe he would like to talk to Jack and Gabriel about this sci-fi bullshit he's experienced that they'd find cool and interesting! Just talking to his kids about things they enjoy! Actually bond a little with any of them that aren't Jean and Mia, for once! Buuuut... he's not expecting to stay in this timeline to get to do that, is he.
Pretty much :copyka2: He's also sort of instinctively afraid that Jack and Gabriel aren't really going to want to talk to him about it, or they'd just be upset or angry about it and he'd regret trying if he did (after all, he doesn't have a great track record on talking with either of them about the time loop).

Of course, Gabriel is suggesting they talk about it entirely sincerely! He wants to hear more about what's going on, and for the first time ever he's actually kind of feeling like he would like to talk to Dave.

aaaaa, Dave's body is actually able to release some of the trauma he's going through, because he was emotionally honest for the first time ever earlier today!
Indeed! And even though he has successfully saved all the kids, created the ideal timeline, he's still very much not okay, which is something that's very hard for him to wrap his conscious brain around because what are emotional needs, it's not like he could possibly have any.

"everything emptied", aka, Dave-Narration for "he sobbed uncontrollably for a long while until he couldn't any more"
💯

Jean is so good! Look at her just understanding how her dad's feeling and doing what she can to help cheer him up! She really is surprisingly good at doing this. And Dave actually being able to just admit to himself and her that he needs this and he can't just go do the usual bedtime thing this time around.

I was pretty certain this would indeed be what would end the loop at last, and yet--
Jean is very good! And understands more than she lets on, instinctively. She's exactly what he needs right now, just insisting she's going to stay with him until he actively tells her to go, and that's what lets him actually suggest she stay up with him. I spent a while hashing out the precise right flow of this, her first offering support that he manages to accept, while he also ultimately manages to reach the point of being able to be the one to actively suggest they stay up.

--oof, I was not ready for him to wake up back here, in the original kinda-bad-but-could-have-been-way-worse timeline. I don't disagree with why you did it, but in the moment, that's just a gut punch, damn.
Aww, I'm sorry to disappoint :sadbees:

Incidentally, did you pick up on how he wakes up in his bed, while if we were truly continuing from the final timeline, he would have woken up on the sofa where they both fell asleep? In the drafts where he actually ended up in the final timeline, that was where he woke up. I figured it'd be fun if people could have a little hmm moment at him waking up in bed, but that also people might not necessarily think anything of it without the benefit of hindsight.

Another little hint that on some level Lucy knew what the purpose of the loop was, and that this was about Making Dave Be More Okay. And he is! Because things may still be pretty fucked up, but he's more emotionally honest about what the kids mean to him now, and that makes a hell of a difference.
More emotional honesty :okgon: Dave actually managed to think for a moment about whether he's okay, even.

Congratulations on finally finishing this! It was a treat to read, and I love that you did indeed take it in the direction of not just having Dave save the kids but having him reflect on himself emotionally and grow at least a little, because with a trashfire man like him stuck in a time loop, it'd frankly be wasted potential if you didn't use it to figure out a way to get him to actually miraculously do that. :copyka: :okgon:

(also of course me being me I very much enjoyed the bonus Jack and Gabriel content there was in here too :veelove:)
Yeah, it would always have had to involve character development, even when the plan was for the loop to end when all the kids lived. That's the whole point of Groundhog Day, after all! Not simply getting the perfect 100% speedrun, but growing somehow as a person in the process.

Thank you so much for the lovely reviews! So many great observations here and poking at a lot of things that were fun to ramble about further. This was a fantastic birthday present and I hope you enjoy my reviews half as much as I did this :veelove:

Thank you all for reviewing! It really meant a lot to get so much really thorough and observant feedback on a story that's so self-indulgent and close to my heart, and I appreciate it more than you know. ❤️
 
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