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[[Hm. Or Rolecop, Juggernaut, two goons, two lovers? that would balance it since one of them would be a free kill, no?]]

[[Also just in general, wouldn't it make sense to pretend to be very helpful if one is mafia? Mostly asking this as a general question.]]

[[I will wait for the review roundup Namo will hopefully make before changing my vote, but. I'm not either. But oh well! Since all of you are so certain there's NOT two lovers, Sind Vote stays for now. ]]

Hana ran her hands through her hair. "Okay okay. Let's all take a breath, and try something. A thought experiment, or something, if you will." She began to pace. "Let's assume, for a moment, we're really all beginners. Kent potentially jumps the gun and implies he's lover. Maybe he's right...

[[What I'm saying is theoretically, anyone could make up a hint. And we're playing with beginners. We've already seen one massive bad gambit. I don't think saying 'xyz play' is obviously bad is... fair. Because people have already done bad plays. Someone could fabricate a hint, right? That's...

[[There's definitely not any town/scum lovers that I believe. I'll wait a little bit and see how the vote goes, but I for one do not get a scum read from abra. For now my vote stays unchanged from my prior statement. I think we should be wary of blindly trusting almost any vanilla's hint claims...

[[or two one-ones maybe? But... I have some thoughts but I don't know yet... hm.]]

[[Hmmm. I feel like... this could be.... one town pair one scum?]]

[[ @Sinderella I challenge you with this question. Do you have any indication to believe there's multiple lovers?]]

[[Also genuinely wondering if there is somehow 4 lovers, even though thats kind of nuts. Unless one set is town and one set is scum? Would explain why Sind might be fully innocent? and why they seem to think lovers are elsewhere? if abra is telling the truth? or there's just one, abra is still...

[[Hmmm. Not convinced thats the case. But Someone is lying, this i believe. But thats a given, isn't it, haha. Anyways Diyem also says that scum/town both have info that can easily be fabricated. Isn't it possible Sind diverted attention to disguise the fact that she's scum/lover/SK? Still...

[[By two I mean only 1 pair, naturally]]

[[Positing a genuine question. Do we know there's only two lovers?]]

[[Unless you all think its worth it, we can kill abra to expose who the liars are HMMMMMM. Take the risk, kill a potential lover, see what happens and lynch the next day, risking 4 kills total. But yes, I second Yellow, how do we know Sind didn't make a newbie mistake? Will try to question...

[[Also according to you why would anyone claim lover??? I am not following this reasoning in the slightest, there's not enough evidence.]]

[[Well we have to vote for somebody, right? Right now Sind is looking the most suspect. Maybe, call me whatever, I'm trying to avoid the off chance we're killing a lover. Because that's 4 innocents dead, 6 total, and thats a lot. So yeah, give me someone else to vote for then, hm. Everyone is...

[[I present my final thoughts for the night: Option 1: Sind is 100% truthfull and Abra is dangerous and not lover (dangerous to who? Mafia???) Option 2: Sind is lying and trying to make us lynch the lover by claiming they know who is the lover Option 3: Sind wants us to kill someone innocent...

[[Yeah all right. Likely. Vote stays, I think she might even be our SK.]]

[I should like to also say that whatever Sind claims, they did only start brekaing out serious counterclaims once a few very mild sus were edged in her direction. And even if you say this was a ploy of some kind or a gambit not to reveal the supposedly critical info Sind's claims aren't properly...

[[Naturally this means I unvote homestar, for now]]