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[[Dave gritted his teeth. "No, it's not a fucking religion. We've got things that can drag you into hell-dimensions with board game rules where physics don't exist and there are dead people walking around. Call them what you fucking want."]]

[["Yes! Yes. It's the fucking board game gods that trapped us here so we can play a party game for them. Congratulations, you noticed."]]

oh my god, Negrek's infected me with not finishing my sentence disease That should have been "before I go and spend probably a ridiculously long time rereading before returning to probably find the thread on fire."

[[Dave'd been pacing impatiently back and forth for most of the day, occasionally glancing into the sky. And yet, what he'd been waiting for showed no sign of happening. Fuck. Why did he try this bullshit. How was he even so far gone as to expect this to work, even in the fucking board game...

Oracles generally can't ask what anyone's role or alignment is, only about the setup. So they'd be able to ask if a bus driver exists, but not about any individual's role. I don't think that's particularly broken in the mafia's hands.

...Oh. I guess that explains why you didn't move on N0 either - you weren't prompted to so you just figured you weren't supposed to? I'm no longer suspicious, this sounds genuine and not like something the mafia would make up.

Okay, no, I misremembered. Who was it who said they didn’t get to make an action N0. I remember being a bit weirded out by it.

[[Dave peered at Tefiren. "...Huh." He pinched the bridge of his nose, thinking. "Okay. You're right; with Espurr's result, assuming she's not lying, we've proven either Ntairow's lying or there's a roleblocker, and in either case the supposed switch isn't needed to explain anything and there's...

Why did you switch the two of them? qva had indicated healers should not heal her; this switch would have the potential to direct healers towards her, or conveniently ensure there'd be no healers on Windskull. [[Dave blinked hard at where the unholy abomination had disappeared. "...Let's be...

I'd also be down with StarlightAurate, personally? But more switching at this point is hardly ideal. What info would we get out of flipping DW again?

Iiiiii'm kind of inclined to go Persephone because my vague impression so far has been she's been extra into the idea of lynching Sike, but ugh there's no time to properly reread

Ahhh, there we go, that's the missing link. Yeah, okay, strongman is pretty likely in that case, and theoretically Sike could have been trying to seed a strongman kill having been used already. Doesn't reeeally change my feelings, though.

Also why do we think the mafia probably has a strongman again? Originally when that came up I assumed that was on Negrek's list of roles in the signup thread and that was why we were talking about it, but I actually checked that today and it was not.

Sike being roleblocked also by itself explains the conundrum of last night, right? Like, I'm not sure the idea DawningWinds is lying but Sike is not explains much of anything that's not explained by a roleblock on Sike. Pretty much just the fact then the mafia'd have had to originally target...

What do you (and Sike) think about the fact SparklingEspeon wanted to be killed to get out of the game? Would a mafia player in that position not first discuss wanting to get out of the game with their teammates, rather than just going and screwing them over like this?

To be honest I think Sike having been roleblocked is the simplest explanation here, and the arguments that this is unlikely compared to her being mafia kind of alarm me. The Sike-is-mafia theory involves a really bold double fakeclaim. It's possible, but I don't really think it's more likely...

[["Okay, so," Dave said, "Let's go through this clusterfuck real quick. Espurr could just be lying, but this'd be kind of a weird-ass lie to pull out while asking to be eliminated from the game; you're just going to get yourself exposed immediately and have accomplished nothing. Plus asking to...

All right, just to start with, odd-night vigilante absolutely is a thing. You'd do that as GM if you don't want two deaths every night, which is very reasonable. In theory there could be an even-night vigilante too, but I find that vanishingly unlikely, both because two vigilantes is a lot and...

I'll unvote too for now. If anyone else is a vigilante, please speak up.

What do you mean, see above? None of what you just said was relevant to my concern (which had nothing to do with you wanting to lynch D1; I don't think that was suspicious at all). [[Dave squinted at the Raichu. "I'm sorry, you think he's super fucking suspicious and an asset to the mafia...