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[[Readlist is OOC because we're running out of time before nightfall and I'm exhausted. Roughly in order of confidence. Hard Town: Ebony Hazel Wes Jean All these folks have been making strong claims, supported by good reasoning, and stayed grounded. I have an excellent feeling about all of...

"...We might have two pairs of lovers and I don't know whether it's true and it's giving me a headache! But I still don't like how Hana kept insisting both that there could be two pairs of lovers but also that Clovis couldn't be trusted, at the same time. And Kent has behaved in a more...

[[Re: healer clash, I know the wiki link doesn't mention it, but I've seen discussion of it elsewhere when scouring the internet for ideas for my own games, it's come up in TR games before, and I think it's a likely mechanic in this game. The letter thing is just IC flavour.]]

[[Yeah give me a damn minute, mate! I'm writing as fast as I can.]] [[You made your claim before it was confirmed that vanillas all get hints. And although, to be fair, Yellow did raise the possibility before you made your claim, it was a matter of contention until after your claim. I think...

"This is all too fast for me... I'm getting tired..." Salem puffed up her cheeks and pinned her ears back in frustration. "That's a false dichotomy! You don't have to believe in some weird unlikely possibility based on something most people wouldn't think of, or do nothing! You could do...

[[First some quickfire ooc comments. This took way too much of my day so eventually I had to give up reponding to everything...]] [[Here goes...]] [[He would be the worst SK player in history if this was his gambit, and he's obviously smarter than that.]] [[But not that smart, or he...

[[Tetra, I'm not convinced you understand what I'm arguing. I'm saying that it wasn't inherently sus to claim to be vanilla uninformed before we knew all vanillas were informed, and it's not inherently sus now to claim to be vanilla informed and then be revealed as having invented a fake tidbit...

[[I really do want you to admit that a town power role pretending to be vanilla to stay safe might get caught in a lie by not having an Informed tidbit, whereas this will never ever happen to a mafia player.]]

[[I can't help but be reminded of 2nd Anni Mafia, where town sabotaged itself by giving away info about power roles too early and mislynched people for being confused or aggro. Don't like that it's happening again here even after myself and several other players have pointed out that it's...

[[Thanks, Lyn, I'd forgotten about the limit of one win-con per faction, three faction limit rule in play this game. In that case, it seems we very likely have a single town/town lover pair, with a much lower likelihood of two pairs.]]

[[I don't think speculating about unusual possibilities we have no actual evidence for is helpful to town. It's sort of like playing chess on a randomiser and hoping it hits on the opponent's weaknesses. It is very likely we have a pair of lovers, and they are more likely to be town/town than...

[Town-scum pairs aren't uncommon. Classically, these 'romeo and juliet' players can either win with their faction or by eliminating everyone else (which would require them to play both sides).]

[[No, we do not know. But it seems unlikely to me. In addition, lovers can be scum. Nobody seems to have mentioned that yet.]]

Brisa clutched the ground from her prone position, and fixed her eyes on Starr, standing bold and alone against the Dragon of Truth. It didn't look good, but there was a victory still in sight. Starr just had to be brave enough to try it. Kick his ass, darlin'...

[[I'll respond to other stuff in the morning but seriously bud don't take the L when you don't have to. Just sitting around as a spare body as town gives the town an extra day to win! Remember how this game works: when there are as many scum as town, scum win. You'd actively be reducing the odds...

"Gah, motherfucker–!" Brisa seethed at the unexpected turn of events in which Astrid went down while she clung on by the skin of her teeth. Not quite what they'd had in mind but . . . as long as they went down before Starr, and not at the same time, it'd work out. Yeah. "Get 'im good, Astrid!"...

[[Will post readlist tomorrow hopefully. Anyway, just use process of elimination to work out who's least likely to be town, kind of thing.]]

[[Saying you don't trust someone doesn't mean you're voting for them. My take was closer to 'I think this player's actions are a liability to town' than 'I think this player is antitown'.]] [[A claim being 'convenient' doesn't make it more likely to be untrue. Also, it makes perfect sense to...

"I think this idea that people who don't cough up all their secrets immediately are suspicious is very stupid. How do you catch people in a lie if you come forward with all the truthful information immediately? You people insisting on that are either way too excited about catching people out for...

[[Still thinking about who to vote for.]]