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[[Yellow claims the mark is an action she took, which was targeted at you but landed on Chibi; Seren claims no, he knows the mark was not swapped, presumably because he is claiming he made the mark himself (or, I guess, saw it being targeted at Chibi in some other way). That's why I've been...

[[I'm playing some LA right now but after that I'm planning to do some rereading and look better into my suspects for a better idea of possible votes; hopefully something useful comes of that.]]

[[Yellow's logic was that a mafia swapper might have swapped a mafia member with a useful townie in order to cause a false alignment read, as with last game when you were falsely told Tetra was mafia. I don't think I really buy that, personally; I'm not sure either Chibi or Jackie were really...

Dave sighed, rubbing his forehead. "Okay, can the two of you explain exactly what makes you think you know what the mark is? You don't have to name your patron or whatever, just say if it's 'It would fit with my patron's identity' or 'My card literally said the target would wind up with a...

[[Do agree with this, though - I’m not reading Seren’s speculation here as agenda-driven or suspicious at all. Just a general-purpose reminder for town not to get stuck on something I basically made up because I did something like that as GM once.]]

[[In general, be wary of treating speculated mechanics as actual mechanics - town can easily get super misled by assuming mechanics that someone just sort of made up are real. It’s good to keep possibilities in mind, but also we have to keep straight what’s stuff we actually know and have reason...

[[I know this was my wild theory to begin with, but I think you’re probably taking it a bit far here. What I was imagining was something where the stringer would have to identify a particular player’s legendary to string them - I think it’d be a considerably stranger, more broken mechanic if...

“Personally,” Dave said, “for the moment I’m less interested in exactly how he knows there’s a swapper and more in what certain player he thinks it implicates. If you’re pretty sure someone’s not a good guy, better spill it.” [[Maybe that’s not what you meant by that? It looks like you’re...

[[Heading to bed! Tomorrow hoooopefully I can take a closer look at some of my suspects, if the thread isn't full of some groundbreaking turn of events by then.]]

("Shut the fuck up," Dave growled.)

Dave's head snapped back. "I mean, that's possible in theory but it seems pretty fucking convoluted to me. If the power's not supposed to tell them anything, then why would you assume this thing that's being publicly broadcasted is the same thing, instead of just being one of the one billion...

[[Incidentally, while I'm thrilled you trust me, I do feel obligated to note that in Christmas mafia, which was pure RP, I was playing Mia, who is a very different character, and was kind of wrestling with her throughout - I doubt my playstyle would look much like Christmas mafia regardless!]]...

Dave emerged into the fair, blinking blearily at the fairground lights. "What the fuck," he muttered. "Okay, so. Yes, I targeted the Froslass, like I said I would yesterday. I don't know how 'Okay, the dread thing works. I've got dread on me rn' could be interpreted other than it did go...

[[Okay so. No daytalk is actually something that might be indicative? The mafia are definitely very aware that there's no daytalk. Obviously mafia can fake reasoning like they think there's daytalk, I did it myself last anniversary game, and town can just legitimately have read the rules thread...

"That's what I said. I have to target somebody and they get plus two. Anyone who targets me, or that I vote for, gets plus one."

"I wouldn't be so sure he even was mistaken, is the thing. Maybe if he was looking for an excuse to vote for somebody, he just pretended to misunderstand. Even aside from the mafia not having talked to each other yet."

[[FUCKING why games with no daytalk whyyyy]]

Dave sighed, dragging a paw over his face. "Yeah. That was my first thought when they said that, which is why I stayed the fuck away from mentioning it. Good job, asshole." [[Don't mind him - I actually think Sinderella's probably town for that? Feels like independent reasoning rather than...

Dave peered at the Delcatty. "Well, what I was thinking was if the mafia swapped the dread to a different target, they could swap it to one of their own and then lie about it. Whoops, nobody got the so-called dread, Dave's lying about the whole thing. But that's not a strategy they could keep up...

“Of course,” he added, with another exasperated look at Darkwhite, “who knows, maybe there’s somebody who can just redirect my action to somebody, without having to know who I originally targeted, in which case there’s nothing we can do about it without knowing who they are.”