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Pokémon turing incomplete [oneshot]

turing incomplete

kintsugi

golden scars | pfp by sun
Location
the warmth of summer in the songs you write
Pronouns
she/her
Partners
  1. silvally-grass
  2. lapras
  3. golurk
  4. custom/booper-kintsugi
  5. custom/meloetta-kint-muse
  6. custom/meloetta-kint-dancer
This is a flashfic written for @slamdunkrai's Blitz prize! The prompt was "Genesect POV".

content warnings: none traditional. discusses personhood/depersoning
crit pref: anything goes




turing incomplete



You awaken fully conscious and aware of who and where you are. They must've decided it was easier to boot you in with previous knowledge. So you know this: you're floating in an observation tank at P2 Labs; they've disabled most of your neurological systems such as gross motor movement, but you can still think and feel. Your name is GN-649, although for conversational ease your creators have taken to calling you—

"Genesect, can you hear me?"

Dr. Solya—Kristina, to those who know her—has bags under her eyes, and when you adjust your optical sensors you can make out the six separate rings of coffee on the inside of her half-filled mug. She's logged eleven thousand hours on your development since the project started three years ago. There's no room through all the weariness in her eyes for joy when you send a vibration through the communication tether in your back that corresponds to a stumbling, Acknowledged.

"Do you know why you're here?"

That's a fraught question. You rifle through the project data; Dr. Solya's listed as primary researcher on almost all of the funding grants, so you know why she's told everyone else why you're here. But there's an aching void between the three versions of you proposed in Developmental High-Functioning Prosthesis for Pokémon, Genetic Reconstruction of Fossilized G. zhermantidae, and Weaponized Augmentation: Hybridized Bionic and Abionic Pokémon Attacks. The trick to a good grant application was making it sound like what the funder wanted.

So what does she want?

You access the recording of P2's initial meeting for you. The grainy footage resolves into a version of this basement lab, workbenches pristine and uncluttered, an enormous conference table sprawled out across where your tank would later be. You skim through the recording at ten times the speed, sifting for the key points. Genetically-modified pokémon cropped up in the scientific and public interest from time to time. Fossil reconstruction wasn't anything new. Silph's Porygon AI had caused a stir in its unveiling, and the software community all agreed that the latest Z-OS was easily the shining star of the field. And although no one would admit it publicly, the whispers in the scientific grapevine knew that Fuji's pet M-project off the coast of Cinnabar had been an augmentation approach … of sorts.

"But Darren, that's where they all went wrong," the recording of Dr. Solya argues in hyper-compressed, fast-forwarded speech. "They forgot what they were modifying in the first place."

All series of Porygon OS were obedient, as were the Rotom OS that came after. But no one asks a microwave for its opinion. That was why it was easier to keep them inside of objects, where it was easier to forget that they were also pokémon.

The M-project was intelligent. But the reality that kept inspiring increasingly-derivative blockbusters was that no one knew what to do with an ultimate fighter that thought it didn't have to obey.

You wanted to see if you could make a pokémon. If you could change me but leave enough intact that I was still recognizable.

If she noticed how long it took you to respond, she doesn't say anything, instead jotting something down on the notepad at her side. You account for the refraction of the tank fluid and flip the image. 'TEST 215. RESULT 3.'

"And what does it mean to be a pokémon?" she asks idly.

I am to disobey. More chickenscratch. RESULT 4. But not too much.

"What is 'too much' to you?"

Dr. Solya used to read to you during the earlier phases of your reconstitution. "It's like playing Mozart for babies," she'd said serenely, when one of the nightstaff had walked in. You're sure now that your six cells of grey matter hadn't processed a single word at the time, but those memories have since been reuploaded to you, so the analogy comes cleanly. You are not strictly bound by the laws of robotics, in the sense that your brain is organic, but you know they must be followed.

If someone commanded me to turn the cannon on my back onto you, I would disobey. You pause and search for the next example by contradiction. If you commanded me to turn the cannon on my back onto a pokémon during a fight, I would obey. Should that repulse you? A primal portion of your brain associates violence with fear. The rest of your reuploaded memories, modern as they are, disagree.

RESULT 5, she writes. "Do you understand the difference between those two scenarios?"

You can access memories that suggest there are many layers to this, about consent, quantified pain, ability to heal—but you return to the difference between the Porygon OS and Project M. You are a person.

RESULT 1.

Dr. Solya takes a sip from her coffee. There's a distinct tremble in her wrist as she does so. "And what are you, Genesect?"

The part of your hindbrain that responded to stress was replaced with the cranial interface for the weaponry on your back. With that six ounces of organic matter you lost the ability to produce adrenaline, anticipation, and fear. And even so you still find this question makes time slow in a way that must've, in some way, mimicked what it felt long ago to find yourself in a winged shadow, with moments to act before talons shattered your carapace.

What does she want you to say?

You know: she wants Genesect to be a pokémon. And an eternity ago, millenia before her kind had coaxed fire from stone, you were one. But while you have records upon records of grant pitches, board meetings, artificial life data, functionality tests—they could not forge the memories of that ancient predator whose DNA they stole to give you life.

A good object would answer her question without hesitation, since that was what it was programmed to do. A good pokémon would answer her with joy, since that was what it was expected to do. A good person would answer after much consideration, with its own thoughts and understanding, even if it knew that what it had to say could be disliked—

If you were smart you would tell her you are a pokémon. That's what she wants: to modify a pokémon just enough that she can call it changed, but not enough that the changes would make her uncomfortable. One that speaks to her, and chooses to tell her what she wants to hear. This is what bound the creations in Dr. Solya's books: the ability to be reminiscent of human life, but never deign to think itself as real as its makers.

A person would be able to lie. A pokémon wouldn't have to.

But you know you can't lie. You understand the concept, and the theory, but you are as incapable of producing deception as you are of producing genuine fear.

I think I am a person.

RESULT 1.

"Thank you for your honesty." She's impassive when she puts the coffee cup down on top of the pad and turns to the computer behind her.

You focus on the screen through the hazy fluid of the tank. Your gross motor functions are still disabled, so all you can do is watch as she scrolls through the memories you accessed during this conversation, selects about half of them, and creates a careful backup. One click later, and she targets them, alongside with the memories formed in the past ten minutes, with an auto-deletion process that will remove them on your next awakening.



You awaken fully conscious and aware of who and where you are. They must've decided it was easier to have you boot in with previous knowledge.


 
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K_S

Ace Trainer
I wonder how long that poor gene's been trapped in the loop of awake, realize, then be deleted.

I like how you show the contrast of organic being to non organic. How gene' sort of remembers, has a grasp as to what functions were gone and where they would be.... But its one step removed. Like remembering the text of a book read long ago.

Since gene was able to access the varied systems to research... This being part of thier turing test.... I was left wondering... Obviously they can see what he dug through and found with what they delegated... But could they see his processes? How he thought about what he saw?

Like did his thoughts leave traces like cookies in the computer for them to pick over?

The shout out to the varried mew two strikes back and its many many off shoots made me crack a smile. A nuce touch of humor. As well as the name project m, anothrr nice smash shout out... It shined among its setting of scifi horror.

Thanks for sharing.
 

aer

Bug Catcher
Pronouns
he/they
Lol, did you change all the yous to its for fanfiction.net?

Anyways, this is crossposted!

Okay so I still don't 100% get this but my working theory is that

[It awakens fully conscious and aware of who and where it is. They must've decided it was easier to boot in with previous knowledge.]

is what it's been awakening to for a couple cycles now, and Solya has been pruning it into the kind of life that she wants to create. I'm not really certain on

[But it knows it can't lie. It understands the concept, and the theory, but it is as incapable of producing deception as it is of producing genuine fear.]

but I think that once it gets to the point that Solya wants it, all the biological bits will be replaced with robotic bits so it won't be changed anymore.

I don't think the discussion of limited personhood here really came through to me; Genesect does a lot of thinking but it feels both too thorough and too targeted to be understood. There's a sense of immobility here, both with it being incapable of producing emotions and lies and only being able to watch as Solya deletes its brain, but while it narrates it's very good at understanding what Solya and what people in general want from it, and thinking through all the possibilities of what it could be as a pokemon, person, or object, which strikes me as a creativity that is a lot more adaptable than the supposed confines of its mechanical brain. I guess there's a horror in that, but it feels like the meat of the story is on Genesect understanding what Solya and humans want from their creations, rather than the inevitability. It can't feel emotion but [If it was smart it would tell her it is a pokémon.] sure sounds like an emotion. It can't feel fear and yet [it still finds this question makes time slow in a way that must've, in some way, mimicked what it felt long ago to find itself in a winged shadow, with moments to act before talons shattered its carapace] basically feels fear anyway. So it feels like there's an empty space there in the narration.
 

Spiteful Murkrow

Ace Trainer
Pronouns
He/Him/His
Partners
  1. nidoran-f
  2. druddigon
  3. swellow
  4. custom/quilava-fobbie
Heya, jumping in for another target from my hitlist and to scratch a bit of a technological-leaning itch for reading material. Though… Genesect POV, huh? That sounds like it’ll do quite nicely. So let’s just go ahead and see what’s going on here:

You awaken fully conscious and aware of who and where you are. They must've decided it was easier to boot you in with previous knowledge. So you know this: you're floating in an observation tank at P2 Labs; they've disabled most of your neurological systems such as gross motor movement, but you can still think and feel. Your name is GN-649, although for conversational ease your creators have taken to calling you—

"Genesect, can you hear me?"

Wait, is ‘GN-649’ actually from a branch of canon, or was that created wholesale from Genesect’s dex number and the like for this story? Either way, it feels pretty on-brand for something that was created to be a fighting machine.

Dr. Solya—Kristina, to those who know her—has bags under her eyes, and when you adjust your optical sensors you can make out the six separate rings of coffee on the inside of her half-filled mug. She's logged eleven thousand hours on your development since the project started three years ago. There's no room through all the weariness in her eyes for joy when you send a vibration through the communication tether in your back that corresponds to a stumbling, Acknowledged.

Wait, from some napkin math, that means that assuming she’s slept for 8 hours a day (and as a programmer, she realistically hasn’t) she’s spent just under 85% of her waking life over the past three years working on this sin against nature.
:grohno~1:


Well, if nothing else, she’s a determined one.

"Do you know why you're here?"

Genesect: “*... Am I supposed to?*” ^^;

That's a fraught question. You rifle through the project data; Dr. Solya's listed as primary researcher on almost all of the funding grants, so you know why she's told everyone else why you're here. But there's an aching void between the three versions of you proposed in Developmental High-Functioning Prosthesis for Pokémon, Genetic Reconstruction of Fossilized G. zhermantidae, and Weaponized Augmentation: Hybridized Bionic and Abionic Pokémon Attacks. The trick to a good grant application was making it sound like what the funder wanted.

So what does she want?

I’m guessing to stroke her ego given that she was willing to turn to Team Plasma to get her grant, especially since everyone knows they’re bad news even before they bring a castle out of the ground at the Unovan E4.

You access the recording of P2's initial meeting for you. The grainy footage resolves into a version of this basement lab, workbenches pristine and uncluttered, an enormous conference table sprawled out across where your tank would later be. You skim through the recording at ten times the speed, sifting for the key points.

Genetically-modified pokémon cropped up in the scientific and public interest from time to time. Fossil reconstruction wasn't anything new. Silph's Porygon AI had caused a stir in its unveiling, and the software community all agreed that the latest Z-OS was easily the shining star of the field. And although no one would admit it publicly, the whispers in the scientific grapevine knew that Fuji's pet M-project off the coast of Cinnabar had been an augmentation approach … of sorts.

Would recommend breaking this paragraph up in two, but the way you tied Genesect’s existence in alongside other “poking nature in the eye” moments that canonically happened in Pokémon canon is a neat sweep that’s ripe in fodder for their own ethical dilemmas, since:

- The ethics of reintroducing extinct species, especially since we know that at least Omastar has been getting a bit out of control in some localities as of Gen 8
- Porygon having risks of going full gray goo since they can canonically breed, especially if Silph didn’t put in adequate safeguards in their AI
- Mewtwo, enough said

So in a manner of speaking, Genesect is just the latest ethically questionable fruit from that tree, even if it’s got a lot more [WHY] regarding its existence.

"But Darren, that's where they all went wrong," the recording of Dr. Solya argues in hyper-compressed, fast-forwarded speech. "They forgot what they were modifying in the first place."

I’m not sure if that’s really the fundamental issue at play, Solya.
:copyka2~1:


All series of Porygon OS were obedient, as were the Rotom OS that came after. But no one asks a microwave for its opinion. That was why it was easier to keep them inside of objects, where it was easier to forget that they were also pokémon.

… Wait, Rotom are kept obedient by an OS in the machines they possess in this setting? I mean, it would make sense given some assumptions, but boy does that make Rotom Appliances a lot darker now.
:grohno~1:


The M-project was intelligent. But the reality that kept inspiring increasingly-derivative blockbusters was that no one knew what to do with an ultimate fighter that thought it didn't have to obey.

Shots fired at Mewtwo Returns, I see.

You wanted to see if you could make a pokémon. If you could change me but leave enough intact that I was still recognizable.

Oh, so this is an ego thing for Solya.

If she noticed how long it took you to respond, she doesn't say anything, instead jotting something down on the notepad at her side. You account for the refraction of the tank fluid and flip the image. 'TEST 215. RESULT 3.'

"And what does it mean to be a pokémon?" she asks idly.

I’m… beginning to understand why it was that Solya kept getting her grants shot down if the explicit purpose of Genesect for her was trying to plumb the line of “when does a Pokémon stop being a Pokémon and become a machine”
:fearfullaugh~1:


I am to disobey. More chickenscratch. RESULT 4. But not too much.

"What is 'too much' to you?"

inb4 some morbidly hilarious answer about “after setting the lab on fire, but just a little bit!”

Dr. Solya used to read to you during the earlier phases of your reconstitution. "It's like playing Mozart for babies," she'd said serenely, when one of the nightstaff had walked in. You're sure now that your six cells of grey matter hadn't processed a single word at the time, but those memories have since been reuploaded to you, so the analogy comes cleanly. You are not strictly bound by the laws of robotics, in the sense that your brain is organic, but you know they must be followed.

:copyber:


Oh yeah, that’s gonna last long considering what becomes of Genesect canonically.

If someone commanded me to turn the cannon on my back onto you, I would disobey. You pause and search for the next example by contradiction. If you commanded me to turn the cannon on my back onto a pokémon during a fight, I would obey.

Should that repulse you? A primal portion of your brain associates violence with fear. The rest of your reuploaded memories, modern as they are, disagree.

I see the Three Laws of Robotics in this setting don’t apply to Pokémon. .-.

Though I would recommend chopping up this paragraph such that Genesect’s internal questioning is on its own.

RESULT 5, she writes. "Do you understand the difference between those two scenarios?"

Genesect: “*You mean there’s a difference?*”
:joltyshrug~1:

Solya: “I’m… going to take that as a ‘no’.” -_-;

You can access memories that suggest there are many layers to this, about consent, quantified pain, ability to heal—but you return to the difference between the Porygon OS and Project M. You are a person.

You see, this sounds like it’s ultimately going to result in Genesect questioning the “... wait, why do you get a free pass on this again and Pokémon don’t?” that’s ultimately going to end terribly and with a lot of lazors.

RESULT 1.

Dr. Solya takes a sip from her coffee. There's a distinct tremble in her wrist as she does so. "And what are you, Genesect?"

Genesect: “*... Is this a trick question?*” ^^;

The part of your hindbrain that responded to stress was replaced with the cranial interface for the weaponry on your back. With that six ounces of organic matter you lost the ability to produce adrenaline, anticipation, and fear. And even so you still find this question makes time slow in a way that must've, in some way, mimicked what it felt long ago to find yourself in a winged shadow, with moments to act before talons shattered your carapace.

What does she want you to say?

Kek, I see the joke answer was a bit more on the nose than anticipated. And this is why you don’t futz with nature for the sake of your ego, kids.

You know: she wants Genesect to be a pokémon. And an eternity ago, millenia before her kind had coaxed fire from stone, you were one. But while you have records upon records of grant pitches, board meetings, artificial life data, functionality tests—they could not forge the memories of that ancient predator whose DNA they stole to give you life.

Wait, Genesect remembers those even in this form? .-.

A good object would answer her question without hesitation, since that was what it was programmed to do. A good pokémon would answer her with joy, since that was what it was expected to do. A good person would answer after much consideration, with its own thoughts and understanding, even if it knew that what it had to say could be disliked—

Does this story share a setting with Envy of Eden? Since this feels remarkably like something that would come up in Envy of Eden with the way that the expectation of a ‘good Pokémon’ is basically to be a doormat and do whatever its trainer wants.

If you were smart you would tell her you are a pokémon. That's what she wants: to modify a pokémon just enough that she can call it changed, but not enough that the changes would make her uncomfortable. One that speaks to her, and chooses to tell her what she wants to hear. This is what bound the creations in Dr. Solya's books: the ability to be reminiscent of human life, but never deign to think itself as real as its makers.

Which is a sign that Genesect is going to say ‘a person’, get shot down over it, and get left with lingering resentments that are going to boil over into murder mode one day.

A person would be able to lie. A pokémon wouldn't have to.

But you know you can't lie. You understand the concept, and the theory, but you are as incapable of producing deception as you are of producing genuine fear.

I think I am a person.

Yup, I knew it. Time to see how badly this turns out for Genesect in short order.

RESULT 1.

"Thank you for your honesty." She's impassive when she puts the coffee cup down on top of the pad and turns to the computer behind her.

Genesect: “*Well. That turned out better than I thought.*” ^^

You focus on the screen through the hazy fluid of the tank. Your gross motor functions are still disabled, so all you can do is watch as she scrolls through the memories you accessed during this conversation, selects about half of them, and creates a careful backup. One click later, and she targets them, alongside with the memories formed in the past ten minutes, with an auto-deletion process that will remove them on your next awakening.

Yup, there’s the negative turn that I was expecting there. I can feel my already tenuous respect for Solya falling through the floor in live-time.

You awaken fully conscious and aware of who and where you are. They must've decided it was easier to have you boot in with previous knowledge.

Either that, or Solya didn’t have the heart to erase Genesect as a person, but I kinda get the vibe that Genesect’s more on the money about this than the more optimistic take would entail.

Well that was an experience. I had no idea what to expect from this story, but it was a refreshing if kinda disquieting read.

I think that one of the biggest strengths of this one-shot is its exploration of what it means to be a person, a Pokémon, and a tool. And how depending on the assumption that one goes in with into this story, it leads to it carrying different vibes. Like Solya clearly does not see Pokémon as people from her answer and the train of thought Genesect takes when weighing over what will impress her, and yet, we can see from Genesect’s train of thought that even if it’s a bit strange that it is a person itself, which raises questions of the entire worldview Genesect has been programmed to accept for what it means to be a ‘good Pokémon’. It makes me wonder if you do something similar to this in Envy of Eden, since the overall themes feel similar to what I’ve heard secondhand that that story deals with.

I also thought the whole sweep of various moments in Pokéworld history where life was created and the implicit comparison was a nice touch, since even if they’re not as similar as Solya tries to tell herself, there’s ethical quandaries raised by each ones, including a few that I don’t think I’ve ever seen explored in a Pokémon fic yet. Good work there, especially if you’re planning on delving into any of those deeper in the future.

As for weaknesses of this story… I don’t have too many, really. The main complaint that I have at all is that there were a couple paragraphs in this story that read a bit dense sentence-wise that I felt would’ve worked better as two paragraphs, there’s very little I found wrong with the story. It’s a bit short, but very well put-together and very thoughtful in a way that a lot of other stories aren’t.

Good work with the story @kintsugi . I’m not sure how much input @slamdunkurai had in coming up with this one-shot, but I thought that it was really well done as a prize piece and I hope he enjoyed it as much as I did reading it.
 

Torchic W. Pip

Here, Queer, and Utterly Glorious
Location
Sootopolis City
Pronouns
they/he
Partners
  1. torchic
  2. custom/torchic-blue
  3. custom/torchic-mikuri
  4. custom/torchic-daigo
  5. custom/quaxley-torchic
I am back again, whether you like it or not. (I think you like it. I hope you like it).

But the reality that kept inspiring increasingly-derivative blockbusters
Holy shit Mewtwo movies Mewtwo movies
That was why it was easier to keep them inside of objects, where it was easier to forget that they were also pokémon.
Is this referring to Pokéballs,or how Porygon's body is object-like? It's dog-like in my mind. Porygon is robo dog confirmed
You wanted to see if you could make a pokémon. If you could change me but leave enough intact that I was still recognizable.
Theseus's Pokémon
"And what does it mean to be a pokémon?" she asks idly.
Well you see... (goes to Wikipedia)... It's not giving me any good answers except "around 1008 fictional species of collectible monsters, each having unique designs, skills, and powers."
I am to disobey. More chickenscratch. RESULT 4. But not too much.
...Oh. Oh shit.

Okay so this was an... interesting look into Genesect, specifically how you possibly make a robot mon... human? Sentient? Humanity is a weird thing. Like, are simulated emotions and responses that look like emotions real emotions? If so, what does that mean for robot rights? If not, then what is humanity? This is further complicated by the place of Pokémon in this world, where they're supposed to (by the laws of humans) attack Pokémon but not humans, where they're seen as less than human despite having sentience. Where are the lines drawn between robots, Pokémon, and humans? My shitposty answer is that Pokémon can shoot ice and water and shit and are made of flesh, whereas robots can shoot ice and water and shit and are not made of flesh (I don't think). Also, like, robots can be programmed to have or not have emotions (simulated emotions? My brain hurts), whereas humans and Pokémon just... get them. As you can see, I'm very good at philosophy. :unquag:

Jokes aside, fantastic work as always. Very good stuff.
 
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