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unvote @Bluwiikoon

i am raising eyebrows at anyone who believes abra just being a doctor who the mafia mysteriously didn't even attempt to shoot makes more sense than the possibility that the person who claimed the easiest role to fake in the entire game when put under threat of elimination might be mafia, in a...

i think the point is that it doesn't actually force that. what if they have a roleblocker? what if they have a juggernaut, as equi said?

why are you so sure of this? anyway, it's not an immediate loss, no. but if abra's not a doctor (and they aren't), there may not be enough days remaining to kill scum—if both shots are from mafia, they kill at twice the rate we do, and they have a 0% chance of hitting the wrong faction. with so...

… if you’re right about “the other suspicious person,” which you aren’t. if we miseliminate someone else, there is a strong possibility the game is over for town. unless you are 100% certain you have completely solved the game right this moment, we don’t have enough room to take a chance.

an extra day without eliminating a mafia member is much, much worse for town right now than it is for mafia

? if abra is mafia theyll just not shoot you

yeah. i forgot to ping bluwii though so it probably didn't count and i didn't bother pinging him after the fact because i didn't care that much lol.

also: yes, but that's the point. i have said some things about the other suspects, but i don't need to say as much because... i'm not the only one open to the fact that they're suspicious. i am the only one advocating for the possibility that certain claimed players are not locktown.

here's the problem with that. in d1, we have nothing to go on. you sort of have to make something out of nothing. when all you have is vibes, then all you can vote on is vibes. i get that. that's why i didn't really make a strong effort to derail the DW wagon. it felt weird, but it would have...

the possibility of a blocker is interesting. i hadn't considered that somehow. i need to think about that.

mm, i'm not sure how much i want to go here... but doctor does seem like a lot in a setup where everyone and their dog seems to be OSBP. that's not mechanical evidence, but it is making the doctor claim carry a bit less weight for me than an un-cc'd doctor claim normally would. i have mixed...

keeping to oneself is sometimes the correct move to make and it would be unwise to force my hand right now. your suggestion that not immediately revealing everything about one's role is actually harmful to town is mistaken and potentially dangerous. that's already more than i'd prefer to say for...

i was! i asked multiple times for someone to explain the wagon to me and repeatedly asserted that i thought they were just being weird town and that people were taking the wrong things away from their play. i wanted people to reconsider their votes. i was less assertive about it because i...

mm. "i think we should kill you regardless of your alignment" is probably the worst thing you could have said just now. just think about the implications of that kind of play for a moment, wherein your goal is no longer to eliminate scum but to kill people whom you deem insufficiently helpful by...

that's fine. i don't have a problem with you thinking this. i just don't agree. i have valid reasons not to agree that i can explain later if this really, really matters to you right this second, but i don't think it's a productive avenue of discussion. my problem isn't that we don't agree and...

on a more productive note, something i don't believe anyone's mentioned yet is yesterDay's wagon composition. it seems likely to me that at least one wolf was on the DW wagon yesterday (enough to break the tie), but very probably more as i suspect it may have been wolf-pushed from the beginning...

this seems to have missed my point, which is not that aliens are definitely bad evil scum that we need to eliminate, but rather that we are taking them at their word for no real reason, which is generally something you want to... avoid doing in a game based on deceit. this isn't really what my...

^^ this does not amount to an SR on bench, by the way. just an example to explain my bafflement that people feel they've reduced their POE to like three people when easily half the roster should be null at the very highest.

?? can you expand on that? it kind of feels like your read on me is just passively decaying over time to an SR for some reason that you haven't really divulged (except for "memeposting ten posts into the day is scummy," which, ?) until i say something and then you're like "oh yeah" and back off...