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[[Augh, this was not supposed to tangent this far and I got more annoyed and snippy than I should have, I just figured someone would point me to some post or info or whatnot I missed that explained the read... I was not planning to start getting at the idea that Wes must be scum, although I can...

[[Because an unclaimed hint could be anything, not just about OSBP players. it makes any lie harder because there's a chance it could be about whatever you want to lie about, not just OSBP. It only becomes exclusively about OSBP once claimed, and only at that point does it no longer do anything...

[[Going after a claimed cop over a claimed SK is even weirder for town. Mafia at least also wants the cop dead. Town has no reason to go after their own claimed cop (and said cop''s townread.)]]

[[Yeah, I've been there since yesterday. No, me thinking there will be fakeclaims if Espy is innocent makes thing easier to figure out by eliminating possibilities. I still just want to know where these mystery reads are coming from. No, that... had nothing to do with you? I said...

[[All I want is to know why Wes is being red highly for what appears to be no reason. Once Wes jumped in with false statements, I didn't just let them stand but I expected someone to, you know, tell me the actual reason.]]

[[Now, may I reiterate, I have still not gotten an answer as to why Wes is so high in people's reads? Like, if there is a reason I can shut up, but nobody seems to have one! Even Hello's own explanation wilfully misremembers things. I am not blowing smoke, I am considering one possibility that...

[[Because I was tired of people tunnelling lovers, which she didn't do. This was, for the record, a good idea and you should probably also have done that as well instead of going after both pairs lovers. Jackie and Chibi also felt the same way. You are conveniently misremebering the order this...

[[Funny! That's not how I remember it going at all! See these posts trying to throw suspicion at BOTH lover pairs, both taking place after their claims: In fact, tunneling on Lovers was one of the first reasons I was a little leery of you, which is why I remembered this well enough to bother...

[[Like, I cannot remember a time that you were... helpful?]]

[[Aside from Fuse who is being townread for obvious Anti-Bravoman related reasons, you're the one Vanilla who isn't being suspected at all, which I find strange because I've never felt any particular reason to read you so very highly as to refuse to entertain the possibility that you're scum at...

[[Okay, with the day being extended, some notes: So, this theory is that me changing my mind settling on not wanting to kill at random in the dentist waiting room is evidence in favour of me having started a train against my own scum teammate, who I knew to be a lover, and that Dragonfree...

Nope that’s ties resulting in Abstain, not day extensions. So… uhh… do I… VOTE… HAZEL? This isn’t gonna, like, void my extension warranty or anything, right?

[[I find Chibi thinking Espy is innocent interesting. Not sold, but I am intrigued because for that to be true, there would be some interesting logical consequences. See, if Espy is innocent, the theory that two of us three has to be scum should become very easy to prove or disprove: By making...

[[I’ve been pretty busy with back to back social stuff and getting ready to move into uni res the last two days but I have time for a quick post now: I think, given the seeming absence of a Mafia Doctor in Jackie and Eq’s innocent flips, that we have a Mafia Rolecop, or else they have no power...

[[not that rolecops have anything better to do, it's late. Goodnight for real this time.]]

[[Not much point anymore, not at rolecops have anything better to do here. It would have to be a Free/Sind/Clovis Mafia which I don't think anyone is considering as a major possibility.]]

[[The #1 thing I don't get here is Wes as bold town? The only difference between them and me/Free is sharing a hint early, and a hint that is definitely useful for either faction to get. I don't think you're doing it on purpose but you are going after people who keep their info close because...

[[I took it as an implication of your post I quoted where you were also talking about Espy/Goat/Free and no one else, given it was in with your other scumreads. If you didn't mean it that way, then there's no point further deliberating, but that's what I assumed of it Anyways, to looko at your...

Yes, was already going when you did that, will get to it in a sec. You have already waffled on whether or not me creeping my secret close is bad, pointing it out as a problem in that post and walking it back right after. That is all.

What post, this one? Points 1 and 2 are obvious and true. You have already waffles and walked 3 back, 4 is not actually even a point in the first place.