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[I think Jackie is still catching up and is replying to things as she goes? So give her a sec]]

[[Freaking—ugh I don’t know anymore. It’s true that Clovis claiming lovers would be a bad mafia play, because it would be way too easy to disprove with a mislynch and then everyone would turn on him the next day. So...maybe I jumped the gun (again.) If Clovis really is part of another pair, then...

[[Hm I forgot that goons would also receive hints...but we also don’t know if there are any goons in this game...but this does change things a little bit. Will think about this.]]

[[Why though? Why is two pairs of lovers more likely than Clovis being scum? I agree that there’s probably no way there’s mafia lovers or a mafia/town pair, but I just. I dunno. I’m reaaally skeptical of there being two Town pairs. If I end up being wrong, I give my full permission for everyone...

[[Would they?? Nowhere in the signup post does it say that vanilla players will get a hint. It has only said so in DMs to the vanilla players. Do you have any proof that the mafia knew about this info? After looking over the signup post and finding no info about the villagers getting hints, I’m...

[[is it too big of a stretch to say that maybe the mafia overlooked this and it was a genuine mistake? Yeah, that’s several people missing out on that, but it was a small detail that nobody really acknowledged until Phan brought it up point-blank. The mafia isn’t infallible.]]

[[Gonna say it right now, if there are two sets then...well, town is screwed. Since I don’t think there would be any mafia lovers (unless there’s a town/mafia pair? But again, that contradict what Namo said about there being more than one non-standard way to win so that’s pretty much not...

[[Genuinely confused and idk why people are thinking two sets of lovers is more likely than Sind being scum. Happy to hear any explanation why the former would be more believable than the latter.]]

[[How likely IS it that we’d have two sets though?? Considering this is a vanilla game??]]

[[Yes it’s a bad play but it’s better than losing both lovers to a mislynch. Tetra had no choice but to come clean here. They’re both good as dead now but at least we can take down a scum while we’re at it. It’s the best route to take at this point with the least amount of town deaths.]]

[[Nope nope NOPE Tetra tunneled on Mike right from the beginning and for good reason because she knew his SK claim was BS from the start. Also she refused to change her mind even after everyone begged her not to and after I changed my mind (I’m sorry Tetra for doubting you) and you’ve had...

[[Also hmm Mike is moved to soft scum again due to refusing to change his vote.]]

[[I NEVER SHOULD HAVE DOUBTED MYSELF, HECCCCCC *flips table* Okay forget what I said about Abra and Clovis. All my other reads are still the same, though Jean has been moved to soft town because she was very adamant about defending Clovis. Also Steven is hard town now. OKAY. Unvote: Kent...

[[ARE YALL KIDDING ME LOL]]

[[Read list! Get your read list here! *waves newspaper* If, for some wild reason, Kent flips innocent: Then I would put a lot more trust in Steven due to his claims. I’ll be back to suspecting Pixie and possibly even Jean, since she was very much advocating against Kent, but also that could...

[[So after hearing everyone’s explanations, I’ll be changing my vote. I confess I’m still struggling to follow the train of logic here (Homestar’s whole stunt has really thrown me for a loop I guess, and I struggle to follow everyone’s logic on a good day tbh), but I do think Free made lots of...

[[Gonna have to second Tetra on this one. I was planning to interrogate Sind the next day but with this claim she is definitely the most sus to me and has been inconsistent in a lot of ways today. (Granted, so was Homestar and Abra—and a lot of you chalked this up to newbie error. Who’s to say...

“All right, fine, let’s say I believe you simply misunderstood mu phrasing. That still doesn’t answer why you didn’t speak up the moment Kent claimed the lovers role, or why you voted for Mike instead when you knew Kent was lying. And only now that the tables have started to turn on Kent have...

“Well first of all, you had some inconsistencies with your claims. First you said you were vanilla with no info, until it was proven that that’s impossible. But you didn’t address that mistake until now when you claimed to know who the lovers are.” Wes tipped his head back and fixed him with a...

[[To be fair, Sind isn’t claiming she knows Kent’s role, only that she knows he isn’t a lover. For all she knew, he could have been SK with that info. That said, Clovis is looking more and more sus for many of the reasons you listed!]]